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Post by MarchingOn on Sept 5, 2014 1:35:25 GMT -5
What's even more crazy is saying that Mccoy is the best back in the league and that somebody of his talent hasn't been seen since Barry Sanders.. I don't think it's crazy to say McCoy is the best RB in the league. I personally have him at #2, but I can easily see a case for someone putting him at #1 (and this is coming from a Giants fan). I wouldn't go nearly as far as to say McCoy has the most talent for a RB since Barry, but to each his own lol. No one can deny McCoy's talent though, he is an amazing player. Agreed, he's a talented and amazing player for sure. I can agree with the argument that Mccoy is closing the gap on AP, but as I just mentioned, there's still a gap imo. Adrian Peterson might retire as a top 10 RB of all time, and some might even put him on that list already.
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Post by Jindred on Sept 5, 2014 1:47:08 GMT -5
I don't think it's crazy to say McCoy is the best RB in the league. I personally have him at #2, but I can easily see a case for someone putting him at #1 (and this is coming from a Giants fan). I wouldn't go nearly as far as to say McCoy has the most talent for a RB since Barry, but to each his own lol. No one can deny McCoy's talent though, he is an amazing player. Agreed, he's a talented and amazing player for sure. I can agree with the argument that Mccoy is closing the gap on AP, but as I just mentioned, there's still a gap imo. Adrian Peterson might retire as a top 10 RB of all time, and some might even put him on that list already. I already put Peterson there.. I didn't get to watch guys like Barry Sanders, Walter Peyton or Jim Brown so I can honestly say Peterson is EASILY the best pure runningback I have ever watched and I don't think its even close as far as pure running skill.
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Post by Jancey on Sept 5, 2014 9:11:05 GMT -5
If we discounted injuries DMC would be a monster. Not anymore. If you're saying if he hadn't been constantly injured early in his career, yes. If you're saying if he would be a monster now if we could discount injuries, no. DMC isn't the player he once was. Not really the topic if discussion, but just pointing out.
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Post by Jancey on Sept 5, 2014 9:12:21 GMT -5
Just the fact that you even mentioned Bradshaw and Pierre, ends this "debate" for me. BWL What's even more crazy is saying that Mccoy is the best back in the league and that somebody of his talent hasn't been seen since Barry Sanders.. An argument could be made for Shady as the best RB in the league. If you go back and look at Sanders highlights and then McCoy highlights, you see a lot of similarities. I'm not saying McCoy is Barry Sanders. I'm just saying the comparisons are understandable.
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Post by Morkim on Sept 5, 2014 9:18:41 GMT -5
See my edit. Charles has 80 more career carries and 1400 more yards. That has nothing to do with sharing the back field does it? That's just better running and more efficiency. Don't blame injuries. If Jamaal hadn't tore his ACL he'd have another 1400 yard season under his belt. And as said previously, if we discounted injuries DMC would be a monster. Let's not count the number of seasons too. Bradshaw had less attempts in more years. Charles was 4th in yards in 2012 and 2nd in 2010. Bradshaw was 16th in 2012 and 9th in 2010. There wasn't much difference either when both are healthy like you percieve to. lol, is that not a bigger gap than 2nd vs 12th in pass rush? And you know the reason Jamaal has more carries isn't his feature role, but because Bradshaw can't stay healthy? Add in the fact that Jamaal is -by far- the better receiver (he literally plays the slot occasionally) Jamaal Charles is on a different plane than Bradshaw. It's not even close. Jamaal Charles has 285 carries as his max. (2012). Bradshaws max carries was 276 (2010) so 9 less carries, but 300 less yards. Efficiency.
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Post by mitch9234 on Sept 5, 2014 10:52:57 GMT -5
Let's not count the number of seasons too. Bradshaw had less attempts in more years. Charles was 4th in yards in 2012 and 2nd in 2010. Bradshaw was 16th in 2012 and 9th in 2010. There wasn't much difference either when both are healthy like you percieve to. lol, is that not a bigger gap than 2nd vs 12th in pass rush? And you know the reason Jamaal has more carries isn't his feature role, but because Bradshaw can't stay healthy? Add in the fact that Jamaal is -by far- the better receiver (he literally plays the slot occasionally) Jamaal Charles is on a different plane than Bradshaw. It's not even close. Jamaal Charles has 285 carries as his max. (2012). Bradshaws max carries was 276 (2010) so 9 less carries, but 300 less yards. Efficiency. Ok. About skillset now. What Charles has that Bradshaw hasn't? Note I'm not saying Bradshaw has everything JC has.
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Post by Morkim on Sept 5, 2014 11:13:12 GMT -5
lol, is that not a bigger gap than 2nd vs 12th in pass rush? And you know the reason Jamaal has more carries isn't his feature role, but because Bradshaw can't stay healthy? Add in the fact that Jamaal is -by far- the better receiver (he literally plays the slot occasionally) Jamaal Charles is on a different plane than Bradshaw. It's not even close. Jamaal Charles has 285 carries as his max. (2012). Bradshaws max carries was 276 (2010) so 9 less carries, but 300 less yards. Efficiency. Ok. About skillset now. What Charles has that Bradshaw hasn't? Note I'm not saying Bradshaw has everything JC has. Burden of proof is on you kid.
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Post by mitch9234 on Sept 5, 2014 11:14:26 GMT -5
Ok. About skillset now. What Charles has that Bradshaw hasn't? Note I'm not saying Bradshaw has everything JC has. Burden of proof is on you kid. Just want to know what you think cause you hate Bradshaw so much.
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Post by Morkim on Sept 5, 2014 11:16:11 GMT -5
Burden of proof is on you kid. Just want to know what you think cause you hate Bradshaw so much. My thinking he's not even close to one of the premiere RBs in the NFL is me hating him?
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Post by mitch9234 on Sept 5, 2014 11:27:17 GMT -5
Just want to know what you think cause you hate Bradshaw so much. My thinking he's not even close to one of the premiere RBs in the NFL is me hating him? Considering that you dismiss what I said before about him, a bit. When I was starting to give my point by asking you that question, you didn't want to answer. And you're starting to take personally by calling me a kid.
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