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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 25, 2014 20:30:24 GMT -5
I plan on using this thread as my personal notebook with my thoughts on this years draft class. Feel free to respond to my posts. I am interested to hear your guys thoughts on my opinions.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 25, 2014 20:40:46 GMT -5
At this point I am under the impression that we will pick BPA in the first round or trade down.
I also think we pick a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, with the potential of picking one in the first( although I dont think any of these RB's are top 32 talent imo ). RB isnt by any means a current need. However Ridley, Vereen, and Boldin are all in the last year of their contracts, and it is very unlikely that any other them get big deals in New England, with the way we value RB's. I view Andre Williams, Bishop Sankey, Carlos Hyde, Tre Mason, and Kadeem Carey as the top 5 backs, in no particular order.
I view Marcus Martin as the best center in this draft class. I think there is a good chance he could slip into the bottom of the first round.
I think Mike Evans is the top receiver in this class, and view him as Sammy Watkins as top 5 talent. I think Marqise Lee would be a top 10 pick if he hadnt had injury issues last year, and had more stability from the QB and coaches.
I think Khalil Mack is the best overall player in this class. I view Clowney as the most physical gifted player in this class, and think his success depends on the team who picks him.
Jake Matthews is my top tackle in this class. I am not a huge fan of Greg Robinson, and I see him more as a mid to late first round talent, even though most see him as a top 10 player.
I think this years QB class is significantly overrated. I view Blake Bortles as the only top 10 talent. I see Bridgewater as a mid to late 1st round talent, and Manziel as a 2nd round talent. I expect one of the top 3 guys to slide down the boards.
I view Aaron Donald as the best DT in this class, with a rare motor. 285 is typically undersized for a DT in New England under the Belichick era, however Donald could easily be an exception. That being said I highly doubt he is around at 29.
I think Brandon Cooks is significantly underrated. I think he would be the number one receiver in this class if he was a few inches taller.
Ryan Shazier is my favorite player in this class. It is amazing that he runs a 4.38 at almost 240 pounds. He wouldnt be able to start in New England, but he would get significant playing time as a sub rusher/sub LB. I would be thrilled if he was the 29th overall pick.
I think Louis Nix would be a top 10 pick if there wernt medical concerns. He could easily be Wilfork/Hampton 2.0 if he is healthy.
I view Jace Amaro as the best TE in this class. Ebron has grown on my over the past week or two, and I really like Troy Nicklas. A lot of good TE's, although I dont think any of them are better than top 40 talent. Doesnt mean I would be against picking one at 29 though.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 25, 2014 20:44:15 GMT -5
I still view Anthony Barr as a top 10 talent.
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Post by nyj on Apr 25, 2014 22:18:04 GMT -5
Cooks, Shazier, and Nix are all realistic picks for NE so you might just get a player that you really like. Cooks seems really polished and versatile. He is definitely on the jets radar from what I hear. He could be another Welker.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 25, 2014 23:16:01 GMT -5
Cooks, Shazier, and Nix are all realistic picks for NE so you might just get a player that you really like. Cooks seems really polished and versatile. He is definitely on the jets radar from what I hear. He could be another Welker. Well my opinion has typically been way off of Belichick's, lol. I think Cooks is the real deal. Should be a lot better than Welker assuming a team uses him correctly. The tape tells me that he can dominate the slot or the outside. Yes he is undersized, but he makes up for that with his explosiveness. I think he best compares to Desean Jackson, although I think he has a higher ceiling than Jackson. The good thing is that there really arnt any players I dont like in this draft, just some players I like more than others. I am just really curious on which receivers will slide. There are 9 or 10 receivers that I view as first round talent. Obviously there is no chance there are 10 1st round receivers, so some team is going to end up with a steal. I think receiver is one of the least likely positions we take in the first round, because Dobson is developing nicely. However the draft has always come down to value for Belichick. I think we could see any position taken at 29( except special teams ).
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Post by Morkim on Apr 26, 2014 0:00:46 GMT -5
I think we draft BPA as well. We've got enough holes to fill, and our GM has that stick to your guns and BPA kinda attitude he brought over from GB. Not that I think they are gaping holes, because I actually like what we have on the Roster and think we could roll them out week 1 as is. But I do think a couple upgrades could be made, short or long term, via this draft. Could easily get one of them in the 3rd I think. Sort of makes me sad the Chiefs are limited on the picks this year. Only 6 total, and no second rounder. And such a deep draft too. Bleh. I view Marcus Martin as the best center in this draft class. I think there is a good chance he could slip into the bottom of the first round. I disagree. I still love me some Swanson. You know, I've felt like I've been higher on Evans than most. But it's painfully hard for me to put him about Watkins. Very strongly agree. Why are you down on Robinson? Any particular tape or what? I like Matthews. But I dunno, hard for me to put him above Robinson. Sort of like the Fisher vs Joeckel debate. Ceiling vs Floor. I guess I tend to lean Ceiling. I could easily see one of the big 3 slipping to the late first. But I feel like there will be a mini run on QBs in the late first. That 5 year option vs 3 year deal is too good if you want a QB to develop. I agree, sort of stating the obvious. He's a pretty ok player. Haha. I love me some Cooks. If he's the Chiefs #1 pick I'd be very stoked. He is vastly underrated from what I've watched. It wouldn't really break my heart for the Chiefs to snag him at 23 either. He would be a great guy to groom to take Hali's spot. Not that I think we should do that in the first round considering our limited picks. But I wouldn't be upset. He'll be a pretty solid NFL player I think. Yep. Health has had him fall down some boards. Maybe to 23? I've liked Amaro for a long while myself. His combine sort of rattled me a little, but man, he just looks so good on the tape I've seen. Another dude I really like, and for value, is Crockett Gilmore. He'll be in the 3-4 range I think, and he could be a very solid all around TE.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 26, 2014 11:07:47 GMT -5
Morkim I think there is a very good chance that the run at the RB position happens in the 3rd round, and that the position is mostly avoided in the second round. I am not saying that these RB's arnt as good as usual, but I think the first and second round will have more receivers picked than any other position, and it could cause some other guys to slide as a result. I have Weston Richburg as my number two rated center. I think there is a chance he could slip into the first round if Martin doesnt. Its not that I dont like Swanson though. I just view him as more of a second rounder with a lower ceiling, at this point. I have watched limited tape on Robinson, so I might be missing some of the reasons why he has been hyped up so much. I just have some concerns on a guy who was viewed as a late first rounder by most, until his big game in the National Championship. I expect a mini run at the end of the first as well. What you get is a 4 year deal with a 5th year option, instead of a 2nd rounder which gets a 4 year deal with no option. That is why it is nice to have the 29th overall pick, as we should be in good position to trade down and get good value out of it. If you watch the tape on Amaro you can easily see why get got some Graham/Hernandez comparisons. The combine numbers are decent, not great though. And some off the field issues. I think he could be picked as high as 15, and as low as 64. And I actually take back what I said on Amaro being the top TE in this class. I think that is Colt Lyerla, assuming we are talking purely talent. Obviously he has a ton of off the field issues, enough that could make him a UDFA.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 26, 2014 12:29:17 GMT -5
I dont think Zach Mettenberger is that far behind Bortles. It wouldnt be much of a stretch for me to consider him my number 2 QB actually. He should be gone early second.
A couple of things need to be considered when it comes to drafting a safety. First off I think the whole idea that there is a SS and a FS doesnt apply anymore. When I look at safeties I am just comparing skill sets, and then determining how they would fit in a certain teams scheme.
We have a very good cover safety in Devin Mccourty. He ranked out as the number one overall safety last year on PFF. The general view is that we should have a big physical hard hitting safety playing next too him. While this logic would easily make sense about 6 or 7 years ago, it doesnt really apply in today's game, because there are a lot of limitations on how physical you can be in the secondary. I would much rather have two really good cover safeties, and then have 3rd safety who is a sub package guy that can be physical and play in the box.
So with that being said here are my current safety rankings:
1. Calvin Pryor 2. Deone Bucannon 3. Hasean Clinton-Dix 4. Terrence Brooks 5. Jimmie Ward 6. Brock Vereen 7. Ed Reynolds 8. Dion Bailey 9. Ahmad Dixon 10. Craig Loston
I have first round grades on Pryor, Bucannon, and Clinton-Dix. I have second round grades on Brooks, Ward, and Vereen and I do not yet have a round grade on the rest of the safeties.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 26, 2014 12:32:22 GMT -5
I view CJ Mosely as the only ILB worthy of a first round pick. I am not so sure any other ILB's are even worthy of a second round pick.
I like Smallwood and Skov, but I currently have them as mid 3rd round guys.
In a very deep draft, ILB is probably the weakest position.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 30, 2014 19:55:11 GMT -5
I still very much like Stephen Tuitt and Rasheed Hageman. Both can play in multiple different schemes, also offer good interior pass rush. I would be fine with either guy at 29.
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