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Post by steelersfan4life56 on May 4, 2014 14:12:58 GMT -5
Dennard to the Steelers is a solid pick but I think Fuller may be a better fit right away. Glad to see you think highly of Tuitt than most, he's going to make a team extremely happy and he's by far the best non-pass rushing lineman not named Aaron Donald in the draft. I'd be pretty happy with him, Barr, or a WR as well.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on May 4, 2014 14:18:33 GMT -5
What am I missing that people have Hageman tumbling? If you swapped the Rams picks they'd make more sense. Lewan isn't going higher than 3rd tackle. Same reason why Tuitt is kind of. People don't realize how damn important a 3-4 DE is these days, I'd argue they're more important than the NT with all the sub packages teams have been using lately. Hageman is a bit of a boom or bust prospect seeing as production hasn't matched his potential and his combine wasn't as good as expected. But he has the potential to be a damn good lineman. Not that I'm complaining, I hoping either he or Tuitt, or both will be there for the Steelers 2nd pick . Although I have a feeling both will be gone in the middle of the first.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on May 4, 2014 14:30:03 GMT -5
MarchingOn - 24 - I do not think Tuitt is as complete as you say he is. He has a lot of work to do with his game and I cannot see him as having too high of a ceiling. Ealy is being asked to gain 20 pounds to make a switch to DT, so he will be there in the pros it seems (or 3-4 DE). 2012- 13 tackles for a loss, 12 sacks. 2013- 9 tackles for a loss, and 7.5 sacks after suffering a sports hernia that hindered him in the early part of the season then later a foot fracture. Even then that is a pretty good season for an interior lineman and widely regarded as the more difficult lineman to block for ND. I seriously hope you are right about him not being a 1st round pick because I'd love nothing more than for the Steelers to trade up and grab him. He's easily going to make a 3-4 team very happy and will be a steal if he falls deep into the 2nd. Write it down and book mark it.
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Post by Juggs on May 4, 2014 14:43:37 GMT -5
First off, since when is CBS "my favorite site" for anything? I haven't even checked it in months. Also, they have Beckham higher, so you might have wanted to check the site before you cited it. As far as WRs flipping, that always happens because they are tough to evaluate and there are tons of them who could go in the first two rounds. Mike Mayock does not have Jarvis Landry ahead of Odell Beckham Jr either, in fact, he has Beckham #3 and Cooks #4, with Landry not even on his list, but you know, feel free to just throw things out there without checking your sources. As far as "many many" being the quantity of mocks that have Cooks being selected first, I can't refute that, but the majority definitely are ranking Beckham higher.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on May 4, 2014 15:42:44 GMT -5
MarchingOn - 24 - I do not think Tuitt is as complete as you say he is. He has a lot of work to do with his game and I cannot see him as having too high of a ceiling. Ealy is being asked to gain 20 pounds to make a switch to DT, so he will be there in the pros it seems (or 3-4 DE). 2012- 13 tackles for a loss, 12 sacks. 2013- 9 tackles for a loss, and 7.5 sacks after suffering a sports hernia that hindered him in the early part of the season then later a foot fracture. Even then that is a pretty good season for an interior lineman and widely regarded as the more difficult lineman to block for ND. I seriously hope you are right about him not being a 1st round pick because I'd love nothing more than for the Steelers to trade up and grab him. He's easily going to make a 3-4 team very happy and will be a steal if he falls deep into the 2nd. Write it down and book mark it. Oh did I forget to mention that he played some NT for Nix when he got hurt and is also only 20yo? Hell I'd take at 15 if all the big names plus Donald, Gilbert, Barr, Fuller, and Lewan are off the board. If they some how take him in the 2nd I'll go 10x more homer than we did for DeCastro
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on May 4, 2014 17:58:39 GMT -5
First off, since when is CBS "my favorite site" for anything? I haven't even checked it in months. Also, they have Beckham higher, so you might have wanted to check the site before you cited it. As far as WRs flipping, that always happens because they are tough to evaluate and there are tons of them who could go in the first two rounds. Mike Mayock does not have Jarvis Landry ahead of Odell Beckham Jr either, in fact, he has Beckham #3 and Cooks #4, with Landry not even on his list, but you know, feel free to just throw things out there without checking your sources. As far as "many many" being the quantity of mocks that have Cooks being selected first, I can't refute that, but the majority definitely are ranking Beckham higher. You missed my point completely, although I should have worded it better. Sites and sources are constantly flopping thier rankings. CBS just had cooks higher a couple weeks ago. Mayock = www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000338425/article/mike-mayocks-updated-position-rankings-for-2014-nfl-draft
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on May 4, 2014 18:00:33 GMT -5
Unless Mayock flippity flopped again;)
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on May 5, 2014 18:23:03 GMT -5
It's become nationally accepted that Beckham is the better player between he and his LSU counterpart, Jarvis Landry. Beckham is a "first round talent" and Jarvis Landry is a "2nd/3rd round talent". Here's why that's complete bull****. GAMES AGAINST TOP TEAMS Combined record of teams = 48-18 (Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, A&M) Beckham- 24 catches for 341 yards. 0 Touchdowns. Landry- 33 catches for 572 yards. 5 Touchdowns. And for those who will say "But but Beckham is the home run threat". Here's the top 5 longest plays, between the two, from these five games. 1.) Jarvis Landry- 45 yard catch vs. Alabama 2.) Jarvis Landry- 40 yard catch vs. Texas A&M 3.) Jarvis Landry- 39 yard catch vs. Georgia 4.) Jarvis Landry- 34 yard catch vs. Ole Miss 5.) Jarvis Landry- 32 yard catch vs. Auburn GAMES AGAINST BELOW AVERAGE OR BAD TEAMS Combined record of teams = 24-49 (UAB, Florida, Arkansas, TCU, Kent St., Miss. St.) Beckham- 27 catches for 572 yards. 6 Touchdowns. Landry- 37 catches for 513 yards. 5 Touchdowns. GAME AGAINST D1AA TEAM Record = 8-6 (Furman) Beckham- 6 for 204. 2 TD. 63 Long. Landry- 5 for 87. 27 Long. When the games are against the elites and they matter, Jarvis Landry brings his best but stays consistent throughout the entire season. When the games are against the bottom feeders, ODB pads his stats. Combine Shombine. . Jarvis Landry is, was, and will be the better player, but he'll get picked later. And that's the beauty of the NFL draft And Mayock sees this Juggs. Juggs
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Post by Morkim on May 5, 2014 18:41:18 GMT -5
It's become nationally accepted that Beckham is the better player between he and his LSU counterpart, Jarvis Landry. Beckham is a "first round talent" and Jarvis Landry is a "2nd/3rd round talent". Here's why that's complete bull****. GAMES AGAINST TOP TEAMS Combined record of teams = 48-18 (Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, A&M) Beckham- 24 catches for 341 yards. 0 Touchdowns. Landry- 33 catches for 572 yards. 5 Touchdowns. And for those who will say "But but Beckham is the home run threat". Here's the top 5 longest plays, between the two, from these five games. 1.) Jarvis Landry- 45 yard catch vs. Alabama 2.) Jarvis Landry- 40 yard catch vs. Texas A&M 3.) Jarvis Landry- 39 yard catch vs. Georgia 4.) Jarvis Landry- 34 yard catch vs. Ole Miss 5.) Jarvis Landry- 32 yard catch vs. Auburn GAMES AGAINST BELOW AVERAGE OR BAD TEAMS Combined record of teams = 24-49 (UAB, Florida, Arkansas, TCU, Kent St., Miss. St.) Beckham- 27 catches for 572 yards. 6 Touchdowns. Landry- 37 catches for 513 yards. 5 Touchdowns. GAME AGAINST D1AA TEAM Record = 8-6 (Furman) Beckham- 6 for 204. 2 TD. 63 Long. Landry- 5 for 87. 27 Long. When the games are against the elites and they matter, Jarvis Landry brings his best but stays consistent throughout the entire season. When the games are against the bottom feeders, ODB pads his stats. Combine Shombine. . Jarvis Landry is, was, and will be the better player, but he'll get picked later. And that's the beauty of the NFL draft And Mayock sees this Juggs. JuggsIdk why you keep calling him ODB. And I don't know why you dislike him so much. Because ppl think the eagles might get him? www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346685/article/mike-mayocks-position-rankings-for-2014-nfl-draft?akmobile=ios&akcarrier=verizonMayock has OBJ 3rd, cooks 4th www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346744/article/2014-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects?akmobile=ios&akcarrier=verizonHas OBJ 17th on his total big board, cooks 21st. Landry 57th.
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Post by MarchingOn on May 5, 2014 18:51:11 GMT -5
It's become nationally accepted that Beckham is the better player between he and his LSU counterpart, Jarvis Landry. Beckham is a "first round talent" and Jarvis Landry is a "2nd/3rd round talent". Here's why that's complete bull****. GAMES AGAINST TOP TEAMS Combined record of teams = 48-18 (Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, A&M) Beckham- 24 catches for 341 yards. 0 Touchdowns. Landry- 33 catches for 572 yards. 5 Touchdowns. And for those who will say "But but Beckham is the home run threat". Here's the top 5 longest plays, between the two, from these five games. 1.) Jarvis Landry- 45 yard catch vs. Alabama 2.) Jarvis Landry- 40 yard catch vs. Texas A&M 3.) Jarvis Landry- 39 yard catch vs. Georgia 4.) Jarvis Landry- 34 yard catch vs. Ole Miss 5.) Jarvis Landry- 32 yard catch vs. Auburn GAMES AGAINST BELOW AVERAGE OR BAD TEAMS Combined record of teams = 24-49 (UAB, Florida, Arkansas, TCU, Kent St., Miss. St.) Beckham- 27 catches for 572 yards. 6 Touchdowns. Landry- 37 catches for 513 yards. 5 Touchdowns. GAME AGAINST D1AA TEAM Record = 8-6 (Furman) Beckham- 6 for 204. 2 TD. 63 Long. Landry- 5 for 87. 27 Long. When the games are against the elites and they matter, Jarvis Landry brings his best but stays consistent throughout the entire season. When the games are against the bottom feeders, ODB pads his stats. Combine Shombine. . Jarvis Landry is, was, and will be the better player, but he'll get picked later. And that's the beauty of the NFL draft And Mayock sees this Juggs. JuggsJarvis Landry is so damn underrated, been saying it all off-season. I 100% agree with you he's better than Beckham. There's like zero chance Landry gets drafted before OBJ on draft day though.
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