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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 21:14:33 GMT -5
Plax forget the superbowl rings. That is in the past, and it was a team win. Like most of them they need a good QB. But if you are talking about fixing the problems they have now and someone offers you two first rounds for Eli. I'd take it. That's all I'm saying. I mean hes good but not great. Not worth two first rounds if you ask me. I get that (well, he won 2 years ago, so it isn't like he won both 5+ years ago). However, the rings do show that he CAN get it done, something Flynn, Palmer, McNabb, RG3, and Smith have not shown to this date. A rebuild for the Giants would not take long. Look at the Colts. They went from worst to playoffs. Look at the Chiefs, who are doing the same thing this year. The Giants have the talent, but they need a new scheme and some new guys at key areas (OL, LB)
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Post by mitch9234 on Sept 30, 2013 21:14:43 GMT -5
[...] those trades weren't good deals. and you lose credibility by putting Al Davis into the talk. so, Manning is worth a 1st and 2nd just because he won 2 Super Bowls? Not because of his play itself? people will always have to overpay for a QB. So if you want one, do not expect to "Get a good deal". The Skins traded the house for RG3 because they wanted a QB. No. But the 2 SBs MOST CERTAINLY help his cause, because it shows he knows how to win the big one when it matters. Eli is a top QB in the league. Not elite, but he is in that next tier. "traded the house" for a 22 year old QB.
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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 21:15:18 GMT -5
But I love how a simple question to Danb has turned into an argument LOL Am I that good?
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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 21:16:29 GMT -5
people will always have to overpay for a QB. So if you want one, do not expect to "Get a good deal". The Skins traded the house for RG3 because they wanted a QB. No. But the 2 SBs MOST CERTAINLY help his cause, because it shows he knows how to win the big one when it matters. Eli is a top QB in the league. Not elite, but he is in that next tier. "traded the house" for a 22 year old QB. I guess the point flew over ya head. Teams will trade and overpay for the QB they want. If Eli were to EVER be shopped (which will not happen), at least 10 teams would call up instantly, and possibly more.
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Post by mitch9234 on Sept 30, 2013 21:20:21 GMT -5
"traded the house" for a 22 year old QB. I guess the point flew over ya head. Teams will trade and overpay for the QB they want. If Eli were to EVER be shopped (which will not happen), at least 10 teams would call up instantly, and possibly more. but it doesn't mean he's worth a 1st and 2nd. do you remember when I said that he's old? teams wanting to trade that is different from him being worth it, when you can get a 22 year old QB for only a 1st round pick in the draft.
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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 21:25:19 GMT -5
I guess the point flew over ya head. Teams will trade and overpay for the QB they want. If Eli were to EVER be shopped (which will not happen), at least 10 teams would call up instantly, and possibly more. but it doesn't mean he's worth a 1st and 2nd. do you remember when I said that he's old? teams wanting to trade that is different from him being worth it, when you can get a 22 year old QB for only a 1st round pick in the draft. I can get a QB in the 7th, what does that prove? If you draft a player, you see how he fares at the college level. The top college players go to the NFL. The NFL is filled with guys who thrived in college. The uncertainty with picking a QB out of college is high. Unless there is an absolute "can't miss" guy, which even those sometimes do not pan out, they can be bad. People see that Eli is a top QB in the NFL and has shown he can play at a high level. Of course the age brings down anyone's value, but I have NO doubt that IF the Giants dealt Eli, they would easily net a 1st at least. But that is enough with the trade Eli thing, because it wouldn't happen. I was just posing the question for my fellow Giant. did anyone actually read what I wrote in the OP? lol.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Sept 30, 2013 22:18:05 GMT -5
Oh plaxy.....ill keep my thoughts and facts to myself here. You know my take.
Eli top ten......fuckin LAFF...not even top 20 right now
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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 22:21:10 GMT -5
Oh god, Eagle found the Giants thread.
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Post by danb6177 on Sept 30, 2013 22:50:50 GMT -5
we need to get a hijacked smiley with an pic of Eli on it.
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Post by plax on Sept 30, 2013 22:52:28 GMT -5
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