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Post by Divebitch on Aug 5, 2015 4:22:01 GMT -5
So you don't recall how hot the discussing football could get? I recall a very specific Elway topic Yes, but perhaps you're forgetting that Elway is also God, so that falls under religion too.
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Post by Jindred on Aug 5, 2015 13:29:49 GMT -5
So you don't recall how hot the discussing football could get? I recall a very specific Elway topic Yes, but perhaps you're forgetting that Elway is also God, so that falls under religion too. Isn't football most of our religion here? I think thats why we all came together in the first place as we worship at the shrine of NFL lol.
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Post by MrCincinnati on Aug 5, 2015 19:32:31 GMT -5
Ok so "maybe" the suggestion to delete the Politics section was a little overboard, but honestly I kind of just wanted to see what the reaction to it would be. lol
All seriousness though, maybe if new rules were put in place, perhaps the issues with people getting personnel will stop. I'm not sure myself what that would be, but maybe everyone needs a reminder on how to "not" behave in these type of topics.
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Post by saskabronco on Aug 5, 2015 21:16:30 GMT -5
Ok so "maybe" the suggestion to delete the Politics section was a little overboard, but honestly I kind of just wanted to see what the reaction to it would be. lol All seriousness though, maybe if new rules were put in place, perhaps the issues with people getting personnel will stop. I'm not sure myself what that would be, but maybe everyone needs a reminder on how to "not" behave in these type of topics. Honestly, the biggest issues come from when moderators try to police people's behaviours on those issues. The things that led to people leaving, namely Beast, Eddie, Jeff and Craig, seemed to escalate to an extreme level when moderators started trying to restrict what people were saying or delete posts that people made (or in some cases, when people assumed it was happening, even though it wasn't). People are going to find things to argue about. Restricting what we're allowed to say will not help anything. I think sometimes it is necessary, when people are getting extremely out of hand, to intervene as a moderator, but increasing the rules and restrictions on how people can act here will make things much worse.
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Post by steelers54 on Aug 5, 2015 22:39:17 GMT -5
Ok so "maybe" the suggestion to delete the Politics section was a little overboard, but honestly I kind of just wanted to see what the reaction to it would be. lol All seriousness though, maybe if new rules were put in place, perhaps the issues with people getting personnel will stop. I'm not sure myself what that would be, but maybe everyone needs a reminder on how to "not" behave in these type of topics. Honestly, the biggest issues come from when moderators try to police people's behaviours on those issues. The things that led to people leaving, namely Beast, Eddie, Jeff and Craig, seemed to escalate to an extreme level when moderators started trying to restrict what people were saying or delete posts that people made (or in some cases, when people assumed it was happening, even though it wasn't). People are going to find things to argue about. Restricting what we're allowed to say will not help anything. I think sometimes it is necessary, when people are getting extremely out of hand, to intervene as a moderator, but increasing the rules and restrictions on how people can act here will make things much worse. I could not agree more with you on that statement. With Plax & Panther mostly MIA overall the moderators have done a pretty good job but there have been a few times when they have added to the problem by acting as a member of the forum 1st and acting as a moderator 2nd.
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Post by larryb on Aug 6, 2015 1:46:54 GMT -5
I'm here right now because I can't sleep. I want to talk to you all. I think this forum is great, and I will be back. I think Mo does a fine job as a mod. I think you all don't need to go overboard about changing anything. Football is coming and this is a great football forum. The other threads I do enjoy. Even though I don't agree with some stuff that people say, I try and learn and respect what they say. Except Juggs post about my ego thing.
Sometimes we have no idea what people are going thru. And that is the case with me. I'm extremely stressed lately which has made me grumpy and short fused. It has nothing to do with ego. It is affecting my personal life much more than here. You all know I have been a good and liked poster. I was always in the running for favorite poster when we had those brackets. I have won the funniest a few times.
I'm having a hard time with my business. I can't do what I used to do. My health is not all that great, and my partner Marlene as some of you know has a brain injury. But the worst is my mom who is my only parent and not that much older than me, she is deteriating rapidly mentally. She sometimes doesn't know who I am and actually wants to fight. She has always been my rock. I can't stop crying some nights. But I'm a tough guy and will get thru it. It's breaking my heart.
So I will not apologize for anything. *except my spelling*
So my leaving had nothing to do with the politics, any poster on here, any mod action, or DEFINNATLY not ego. It had to do with pain and heart ache. I will be back and enjoy the forum again.
Craig440.
Edit. CRAIG GET THE HELL OFF MY ACCOUNT. Larryb
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 6, 2015 2:05:25 GMT -5
I'm here right now because I can't sleep. I want to talk to you all. I think this forum is great, and I will be back. I think Mo does a fine job as a mod. I think you all don't need to go overboard about changing anything. Football is coming and this is a great football forum. The other threads I do enjoy. Even though I don't agree with some stuff that people say, I try and learn and respect what they say. Except Juggs post about my ego thing. Sometimes we have no idea what people are going thru. And that is the case with me. I'm extremely stressed lately which has made me grumpy and short fused. It has nothing to do with ego. It is affecting my personal life much more than here. You all know I have been a good and liked poster. I was always in the running for favorite poster when we had those brackets. I have won the funniest a few times. I'm having a hard time with my business. I can't do what I used to do. My health is not all that great, and my partner Marlene as some of you know has a brain injury. But the worst is my mom who is my only parent and not that much older than me, she is deteriating rapidly mentally. She sometimes doesn't know who I am and actually wants to fight. She has always been my rock. I can't stop crying some nights. But I'm a tough guy and will get thru it. It's breaking my heart. So I will not apologize for anything. *except my spelling* So my leaving had nothing to do with the politics, any poster on here, any mod action, or DEFINNATLY not ego. It had to do with pain and heart ache. I will be back and enjoy the forum again. Craig440. Edit. CRAIG GET THE HELL OFF MY ACCOUNT. Larryb Well I think I speak on behalf of every member here when I say that I'm hoping for the best with your mother, your partner, your business, and you as well. I can't even fathom how hard your life must be right now, and I'll be keeping you in my thoughts hoping that everything turns out alright for you and the people you care for.. So, best wishes. And I - we are all glad you are choosing to come back to the forum. This place wouldn't be the same without you. Or your pet monkey.
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Post by Divebitch on Aug 6, 2015 8:10:06 GMT -5
Craig, sorry to hear about all your recent troubles. I pine for my mom every day. She was my rock as well, and of the entire family. Best I can do is wish you strength to cope, and lend an open ear and heart. I'm so glad you'll be coming back. Even though we talk at CTM, still been bummed big time lately about a few things, and feeling really, really lonely here of top of that. It's not been the same, at all.
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Post by Jindred on Aug 6, 2015 12:35:57 GMT -5
I'm here right now because I can't sleep. I want to talk to you all. I think this forum is great, and I will be back. I think Mo does a fine job as a mod. I think you all don't need to go overboard about changing anything. Football is coming and this is a great football forum. The other threads I do enjoy. Even though I don't agree with some stuff that people say, I try and learn and respect what they say. Except Juggs post about my ego thing. Sometimes we have no idea what people are going thru. And that is the case with me. I'm extremely stressed lately which has made me grumpy and short fused. It has nothing to do with ego. It is affecting my personal life much more than here. You all know I have been a good and liked poster. I was always in the running for favorite poster when we had those brackets. I have won the funniest a few times. I'm having a hard time with my business. I can't do what I used to do. My health is not all that great, and my partner Marlene as some of you know has a brain injury. But the worst is my mom who is my only parent and not that much older than me, she is deteriating rapidly mentally. She sometimes doesn't know who I am and actually wants to fight. She has always been my rock. I can't stop crying some nights. But I'm a tough guy and will get thru it. It's breaking my heart. So I will not apologize for anything. *except my spelling* So my leaving had nothing to do with the politics, any poster on here, any mod action, or DEFINNATLY not ego. It had to do with pain and heart ache. I will be back and enjoy the forum again. Craig440. Edit. CRAIG GET THE HELL OFF MY ACCOUNT. Larryb I am sorry to hear about the stuff you are going through. I am especially sorry to here about your mother, I watched my Grandmother go through dementia/alzheimers and that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen in my life. The worst part of it was watching my father deal with it, he struggled so much watching his mother fade away and to be completely helpless against it just broke him. He came back from it, but it took a while before I got to see my regular Dad again. Any disease of the mind is just the most cruel thing that can happen to a family member and I am so deeply sorry you have to go through that, I wish it on nobody. The only thing I can recommend is to lean on the people you love, and just spend time with them, also hugs.. Lots and lots of hugs.
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