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Post by larryb on Aug 3, 2015 12:06:28 GMT -5
I'm using Larryb's account because I want to clear a few things up. I won't be signing Larryb at the end because he's sleeping.
First off Mo I didn't say you deleted the whole politics thread. You miss understood me. Seems to happen a lot so I'm sure it is my fault in the way I say things. What I said was when you posted the post from page 254 you put the thread and page on that post, as I had asked. I saw it and then when I went back to look it was gone. I couldn't remember the page. So I asked why you edited that. You said you did not. You thought I was talking about the politics thread. Then when you moved the whole conversation, you didn't say you did. It confused me. I thought you had deleted it. I don't think the politics thread should be deleted as someone suggested. As Saska says you don't have to go there. I also am passionate about race relations and in my opinion constantly blaming race for everything promotes it. That's all.
So basically I have no problem with anyone here. As was said if I did I can just block them, which I have never done. I just think I need a break for awhile. I spend lots of time on the forums and it is kind of getting in my way.
I don't know if I will make another account, delete Larryb, or what. I will see. Give me a little time.
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Post by Juggs on Aug 3, 2015 16:31:50 GMT -5
The only thing that needs a break is the ego of people "quitting" a forum because they can't be civil.
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Post by Divebitch on Aug 4, 2015 5:24:23 GMT -5
The only thing that needs a break is the ego of people "quitting" a forum because they can't be civil. I don't pick fights often but that's total crap. Agreed they needn't have left, but not for lack of civility, utter BS.
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Post by packdog on Aug 4, 2015 6:54:09 GMT -5
man, craig's a fairly nice dude and usually level-headed. think he just got a bit passionate on a personal opinion. he'll be fine. just give him time. i'll just hope no more media race frenzies pop up between now and the start of the season so we all can argue about how great our football teams and imaginary teams are. that's what's important people!
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 4, 2015 7:32:25 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates.
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Post by MrCincinnati on Aug 4, 2015 19:14:27 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates. The conflict still happened in the Politics section regardless if it was about Politics or not. All I know is that area is causing more drama than anything else on here. It can start from a debate and end with something completely off topic. That's why I never post in there myself. I'm not saying that section should be deleted at this very moment, but I don't see anything positive about having that on here either. Of course if that decision would be up to Panther or Plax in this case.
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Post by Divebitch on Aug 4, 2015 21:15:12 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates. That's only partially true, and not the larger part really. So don't flatter yourself. That was a joke. The last part. The conflict still happened in the Politics section regardless if it was about Politics or not. All I know is that area is causing more drama than anything else on here. It can start from a debate and end with something completely off topic. That's why I never post in there myself. I'm not saying that section should be deleted at this very moment, but I don't see anything positive about having that on here either. Of course if that decision would be up to Panther or Plax in this case. IDK what the answer is. The hottest sources of debate are based in religion and politics. Many are not really looking for discussion or an exchange of ideas - agendas may even be subconscious. It's a volatile mix when you get people who are intolerant, and trying to prove the unprovable. That is why, like you, I rarely post there myself. I'd imagine many forums with more people than here sustain the strife. Members never know how many leave, they just go quietly, knowing no one would care. It was different here [EDIT: Meaning a smaller site, where it perhaps got a tad more noticed when folks disappeared]. Now IDK - find myself saying that a ton these days.
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Post by saskabronco on Aug 4, 2015 22:25:49 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates. The conflict still happened in the Politics section regardless if it was about Politics or not. All I know is that area is causing more drama than anything else on here. It can start from a debate and end with something completely off topic. That's why I never post in there myself. I'm not saying that section should be deleted at this very moment, but I don't see anything positive about having that on here either. Of course if that decision would be up to Panther or Plax in this case. Those topics are going to come up regardless of whether there is a place for it or not. Having a place for it helps to keep that sort of discussion away from the general football sections of the forums. Because there is a separate area for those discussions, it makes it much easier for people who want nothing to do with those conversations, like yourself, to avoid such topics and I think that's a great thing. No no one is forced into discussing those things or going to those rooms. The people who choose to post on political and religious matters do so of their own free will. If they dislike the arguments, they have every right to stop posting in those areas just like you and many others choose to do. That's why it baffles me that people are quitting these forums over interactions in those areas. I know I am part of the "problem" because I strongly disagree with some of those guys on many issues and we always get into discussions or arguments about things, but rather than quitting they could just block/ignore me and people like me. I deal with the same stuff from them as they do from me and I feel no need to quit. If I get really annoyed or bothered, it's an online forum, I am 100% in control of what I want to read and what I want to respond to. Any problems people have are personal and should not be blamed on other posters or sections of the forums.
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Post by Jindred on Aug 5, 2015 0:18:35 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates. The conflict still happened in the Politics section regardless if it was about Politics or not. All I know is that area is causing more drama than anything else on here. It can start from a debate and end with something completely off topic. That's why I never post in there myself. I'm not saying that section should be deleted at this very moment, but I don't see anything positive about having that on here either. Of course if that decision would be up to Panther or Plax in this case. The reason those two sections were created was because people were discussing those things in other threads. Panther and Shaggz created those two and told us to keep those discussion there so they didn't happen elsewhere. People are going to talk about politics and religion, it just happens.
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Post by Morkim on Aug 5, 2015 0:23:41 GMT -5
I think what's being misunderstood is that the politcs section isn't to blame for Craig leaving. He deleted because of his accusation he made towards me about editing and deleting his posts, not racism debates. That's only partially true, and not the larger part really. So don't flatter yourself. That was a joke. The last part. The conflict still happened in the Politics section regardless if it was about Politics or not. All I know is that area is causing more drama than anything else on here. It can start from a debate and end with something completely off topic. That's why I never post in there myself. I'm not saying that section should be deleted at this very moment, but I don't see anything positive about having that on here either. Of course if that decision would be up to Panther or Plax in this case. IDK what the answer is. The hottest sources of debate are based in religion and politics. Many are not really looking for discussion or an exchange of ideas - agendas may even be subconscious. It's a volatile mix when you get people who are intolerant, and trying to prove the unprovable. That is why, like you, I rarely post there myself. I'd imagine many forums with more people than here sustain the strife. Members never know how many leave, they just go quietly, knowing no one would care. It was different here [EDIT: Meaning a smaller site, where it perhaps got a tad more noticed when folks disappeared]. Now IDK - find myself saying that a ton these days. So you don't recall how hot the discussing football could get? I recall a very specific Elway topic
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