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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Apr 30, 2014 9:49:41 GMT -5
That's like my new signature move. End a feisty convo with a meme. It's like the ultimate, most condescending, douchey burn. I love it. Don't still my thing bro
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Post by inoccent on Apr 30, 2014 10:04:16 GMT -5
Personally I would get all the votes to kick him out from the owners (no owner dares to not kick him out for fear of losing sponsorships) and then I would go to Sterling. You have two options. We have already voted to kick you out or you can keep the Clippers but you have to buy out all of your players and coaches contracts making them free agents and free to sign with any team (even with the Clippers if they choose). That forces him to find players that will sign with the Clippers (not many would, mostly bad players looking to make a name for themselves.) The clippers would then be an awful team again which would in turn drop the value of the team and then he would sell the team. He sells it now and he probably gets +$1 billion (doesn't sound like a punishment to me). Make the team awful and then watch the stock fall and watch him get a lot less for it. Just my two cents
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Post by patriotsk1d on Apr 30, 2014 11:35:12 GMT -5
This is what really bothers me. I'm cool with the guy being shunned and fined etc. Because the NBA wants the country to know they don't want to associate with that kind of person. But why are more people not talking about how NOT OK it is that this all became public in the first place? Overall I'd like to stay out of this sort of topic because it has a way of getting messy. But yeah, I thought it was weird.. Screw Sterling for being a racist old fart, but I think his girl fiend is equally in the wrong. Why would she want to be with a known racist? And then throw him under the bus by record him in his own home and make it seem like she sort of baited him as well. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished for being a dick, but she might be in the wrong as well. Just seems fishy. I am not sure anyone is saying she isnt in the wrong as well. The thing is he still said what he said, and those comments have no place in society or sports.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 11:48:21 GMT -5
Going to post this one last post and be done for good about this.
Im surprised that this thread hasnt gotten to 20 pages by now. Everybody has different opinions on this subject...but they dont vary a whole lot.
Everybody here knows that racism is wrong. But those tiny variations in peoples opinions has this thing on 10 pages too much. Its causing riffs in here and it shouldnt even be doing that. This is what I mean by the media adding fuel to the fire.
Its divide and conquer.
Theres a whole lot of wrong in this story,from sterling,to his girlfriend,to the media,to Snoop Dogg,etc etc.
Nobody has even mentioned the fact that this guy was married,but Ohh...thats not news to the media. His poor wife.
I will just leave this with you from Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
I agree with him on everything he said..... except the media needs to drop it now and move on.
Believe me....This isnt the only thing wrong with society and this world.
Sometimes I just feel like I want a one way ticket off this rock.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar @kaj33
April 28, 2014
It's time to look at ourselves — and our collective moral outrage — in the mirror, says former NBA player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Moral outrage is exhausting. And dangerous. The whole country has gotten a severe case of carpal tunnel syndrome from the newest popular sport of Extreme Finger Wagging. Not to mention the neck strain from Olympic tryouts for Morally Superior Head Shaking. All over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet. (Was it only a couple days ago that Cliven Bundy said blacks would be better off picking cotton as slaves? And only last June Paula Deen admitted using the “N” word?)
Yes, I’m angry, too, but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list. But let’s start with Sterling. I used to work for him, back in 2000 when I coached for the Clippers for three months. He was congenial, even inviting me to his daughter’s wedding. Nothing happened or was said to indicate he suffered from IPMS (Irritable Plantation Master Syndrome). Since then, a lot has been revealed about Sterling’s business practices:
2006: U.S. Dept. of Justice sued Sterling for housing discrimination. Allegedly, he said, “Black tenants smell and attract vermin.” 2009: He reportedly paid $2.73 million in a Justice Dept. suit alleging he discriminated against blacks, Hispanics, and families with children in his rentals. (He also had to pay an additional nearly $5 million in attorneys fees and costs due to his counsel’s “sometimes outrageous conduct.”) 2009: Clippers executive (and one of the greatest NBA players in history) sued for employment discrimination based on age and race.
And now the poor guy’s girlfriend (undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now) is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. She was like a sexy nanny playing “pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.” She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.
They caught big game on a slow news day, so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.
I don’t blame them. I’m doing some whooping right now. Racists deserve to be paraded around the modern town square of the television screen so that the rest of us who believe in the American ideals of equality can be reminded that racism is still a disease that we haven’t yet licked.
What bothers me about this whole Donald Sterling affair isn’t just his racism. I’m bothered that everyone acts as if it’s a huge surprise. Now there’s all this dramatic and very public rending of clothing about whether they should keep their expensive Clippers season tickets. Really? All this other stuff I listed above has been going on for years and this ridiculous conversation with his girlfriend is what puts you over the edge? That’s the smoking gun?
He was discriminating against black and Hispanic families for years, preventing them from getting housing. It was public record. We did nothing. Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?
Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way? Although the impact is similar to Mitt Romney’s comments that were secretly taped, the difference is that Romney was giving a public speech. The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime. We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.
Make no mistake: Donald Sterling is the villain of this story. But he’s just a handmaiden to the bigger evil. In our quest for social justice, we shouldn’t lose sight that racism is the true enemy. He’s just another jerk with more money than brains.
So, if we’re all going to be outraged, let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on Celebrity Apprentice and Dancing with the Stars.
The big question is “What should be done next?” I hope Sterling loses his franchise. I hope whoever made this illegal tape is sent to prison. I hope the Clippers continue to be unconditionally supported by their fans. I hope the Clippers realize that the ramblings of an 80-year-old man jealous of his young girlfriend don’t define who they are as individual players or as a team. They aren’t playing for Sterling—they’re playing for themselves, for the fans, for showing the world that neither basketball, nor our American ideals, are defined by a few pathetic men or women.
Let’s use this tawdry incident to remind ourselves of the old saying: “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Instead of being content to punish Sterling and go back to sleep, we need to be inspired to vigilantly seek out, expose, and eliminate racism at its first signs.
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Post by Jindred on Apr 30, 2014 13:07:32 GMT -5
Overall I'd like to stay out of this sort of topic because it has a way of getting messy. But yeah, I thought it was weird.. Screw Sterling for being a racist old fart, but I think his girl fiend is equally in the wrong. Why would she want to be with a known racist? And then throw him under the bus by record him in his own home and make it seem like she sort of baited him as well. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished for being a dick, but she might be in the wrong as well. Just seems fishy. Let me respond to the question I have put in bold print with a simple video..
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Apr 30, 2014 13:24:00 GMT -5
Overall I'd like to stay out of this sort of topic because it has a way of getting messy. But yeah, I thought it was weird.. Screw Sterling for being a racist old fart, but I think his girl fiend is equally in the wrong. Why would she want to be with a known racist? And then throw him under the bus by record him in his own home and make it seem like she sort of baited him as well. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished for being a dick, but she might be in the wrong as well. Just seems fishy. I am not sure anyone is saying she isnt in the wrong as well. The thing is he still said what he said, and those comments have no place in society or sports. Agreed
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Post by MarchingOn on Apr 30, 2014 14:14:06 GMT -5
Red people are people too!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 15:10:06 GMT -5
saskabroncoSelf control. I got drawn into a debate enough already when I stated in my OP that I didn't want a rebuttal. Sorry, but TL;DR
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 15:15:54 GMT -5
I just hate how its always the same people vs the same people when it concerns politics and religion. Its just pointless guys. Follow my advice. This whole thread has accomplished nothing. Were not going to change each other opinions. I will always strongly dislike liberals. Other people will always dislike gays. Other people will worship gays.
It's your own opinion, I don't care as long as you don't pursue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 15:18:24 GMT -5
The wolves have been slain.
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