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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 22:02:32 GMT -5
It's not like Barr had a bad combine or anything, I read that he actually did quite well? He looked small and I don't like that he only put up 15 reps. Clowney only put up 21 but anyone who knows about lifting could see he uses a narrow grip and witth his long as kingkong arms putting up 21 was impressive. Barr showed me that his work ethic may not be there with a weak showing like that. He'll be fine. I honestly think of Aldon Smith when I think of Barr. Comparing their combine stats, Barr ran a .12sec faster 40, .5" higher vertical, 1" longer broad, .37sec faster 3 cone, and .31sec faster 20yd shuttle. 5 less bench press reps than Smith (which is indeed extremely low at 15). Barr is 1 inch taller and 8 pounds less heavy than Smith. I was very impressed by Barr's manner in the interviews as well. He seems very respectful and intelligent.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Feb 24, 2014 23:28:56 GMT -5
He looked small and I don't like that he only put up 15 reps. Clowney only put up 21 but anyone who knows about lifting could see he uses a narrow grip and witth his long as kingkong arms putting up 21 was impressive. Barr showed me that his work ethic may not be there with a weak showing like that. He'll be fine. I honestly think of Aldon Smith when I think of Barr. Comparing their combine stats, Barr ran a .12sec faster 40, .5" higher vertical, 1" longer broad, .37sec faster 3 cone, and .31sec faster 20yd shuttle. 5 less bench press reps than Smith (which is indeed extremely low at 15). Barr is 1 inch taller and 8 pounds less heavy than Smith. I was very impressed by Barr's manner in the interviews as well. He seems very respectful and intelligent.
Oh whatever...you don't know shit...you shouldn't even watch football...your rams will never be shit!!! No But seriously, I do like Barr, just saying his draft stock to a bit of a hit imo. 15-25 imo...if he fell to the Eagles...oh baby!!!
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Feb 24, 2014 23:46:04 GMT -5
Aaron Donald!!!! Just saw his #'s...4.6 40 at 285 lbs!!!! 35 reps!!! 32 " vert. cityofchamps wow dude, you were right about him. Doubt he's just a combine warrior.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Feb 24, 2014 23:49:13 GMT -5
If he was a duck though....he'd be a peice of shit soulless pedophile who would never make it in the NFL.
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Post by Jindred on Feb 25, 2014 0:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by patriotsk1d on Feb 25, 2014 0:03:15 GMT -5
Aaron Donald!!!! Just saw his #'s...4.6 40 at 285 lbs!!!! 35 reps!!! 32 " vert. cityofchamps wow dude, you were right about him. Doubt he's just a combine warrior. I just wish he was 30 pounds bigger. Still he should be have a good career in most schemes, just probably not in New England.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Feb 25, 2014 0:05:43 GMT -5
It's not like Barr had a bad combine or anything, I read that he actually did quite well? He looked small and I don't like that he only put up 15 reps. Clowney only put up 21 but anyone who knows about lifting could see he uses a narrow grip and witth his long as kingkong arms putting up 21 was impressive. Barr showed me that his work ethic may not be there with a weak showing like that. I dont think the bench tells the full story on a players strength. Some guys have far better lower body strength, and use that instead of the upper body strength. I just try to look at the tape, and then determine what type of strength the player has. Of course there is no easy way to grade a player on strength from tape, but still I think the tape is more important than the bench. I think Mack is the better LB, but I do not think Barr is that far behind. Both are top 10 talent IMO.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Feb 25, 2014 0:33:14 GMT -5
Aaron Donald!!!! Just saw his #'s...4.6 40 at 285 lbs!!!! 35 reps!!! 32 " vert. cityofchamps wow dude, you were right about him. Doubt he's just a combine warrior. I just wish he was 30 pounds bigger. Still he should be have a good career in most schemes, just probably not in New England. I just can't believe those #'s...If he was 6'5 maybe...but 6'1 and that big, strong and fast...bulldog that won't wear down so fast. Watching some tape on him now...just bad ass. Could be John Randle 2.0
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 0:56:02 GMT -5
He looked small and I don't like that he only put up 15 reps. Clowney only put up 21 but anyone who knows about lifting could see he uses a narrow grip and witth his long as kingkong arms putting up 21 was impressive. Barr showed me that his work ethic may not be there with a weak showing like that. I dont think the bench tells the full story on a players strength. Some guys have far better lower body strength, and use that instead of the upper body strength. I just try to look at the tape, and then determine what type of strength the player has. Of course there is no easy way to grade a player on strength from tape, but still I think the tape is more important than the bench. I think Mack is the better LB, but I do not think Barr is that far behind. Both are top 10 talent IMO. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I would be more interested in how much they can squat.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Feb 25, 2014 1:16:09 GMT -5
I dont think the bench tells the full story on a players strength. Some guys have far better lower body strength, and use that instead of the upper body strength. I just try to look at the tape, and then determine what type of strength the player has. Of course there is no easy way to grade a player on strength from tape, but still I think the tape is more important than the bench. I think Mack is the better LB, but I do not think Barr is that far behind. Both are top 10 talent IMO. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I would be more interested in how much they can squat. And technique is huge too. I would take a weak LB with great technique because getting bigger isnt nearly as hard as developing solid football technique.
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