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Post by Juggs on Jan 16, 2016 22:29:36 GMT -5
I thought long and hard because everyone says they need a tackle. I disagree. They've got Albert, James, and Turner played tackle in college and could move there and excel. They really need a guard more than anything, but there's no guard to go in the top 10. Ifedi will play guard for them, but he could play tackle if Albert leaves or James regresses. As far as Hargreaves, I don't love him. Everyone else does, so he'll go in the top 10. I think Ramsey won't go to any other team in the top 10 except Tampa Bay.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Jan 17, 2016 3:07:26 GMT -5
Rust can easily lead to drops and a couple of bad games does not mean anything. Lawler did not run option routes in college, has nothing to do with being a deep threat, he just didn't run option routes. Most college teams don't run option routes. You are crazy if you don't think I understand the Pats draft logic. When it comes to receivers the Pats have yet to draft one(at least in the past 5 years or so) that I said they wouldn't pick. Its not easy to figure out who they will pick, but its not that hard to eliminate guys. Lol at that logic about Lawler. If most teams don't run them, then most receivers are equal, and therfore, it barely hurts Lawler if at all. And one critique doesn't rule him out, especially when he has plenty of qualities that can make him a great receiver over the middle. Keenan Allen went from Cal to Whisenhunt's offense is San Diego, which was all options and was arguably the most complicated short pass game in the league. It's not the same as Bill's, but it's just as complicated. LSU didn't run any options, and Beckham went to McAdoo's system, which IS more complicated than Bill's. 99% of receivers don't fit your ridiculous mold for what a guy needs to do, especially for a late 2nd round pick. I didn't say you didn't understand their logic. What I said is that you aren't a presence in BB's head. AKA you don't know exactly what he's thinking, and you have no idea what his plans are for 2016, nor does anyone. I don't either, but I don't act like I do. I just slot in a very good player at a position where I think they could improve. Not much too it, but your drastically overcomplicating things just because you have a compulsive need to argue. You seem to be confusing our system with the rest of the league. I said Lawler would work for most teams, he won't work for our team and it is really that simple. It is not my ridiculous mold of what a guy needs to do, it is the Patriots system which has required consistently the same quality from receivers for years. Keenan Allen is a good example, notice how we opted to take a clearly far less talent receiver in Dobson over him? I told you I have no idea who we will draft, but I can pretty easily tell you who we won't draft. You clearly have no idea how our system actually works. Probably under the impression that any short quick receiver can instantly become Edelman in our system. Maybe you just have a compulsive need to be proven accurate, because this really isn't that complicated.
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Post by Juggs on Jan 17, 2016 11:36:00 GMT -5
Aaron Dobson played in Marshall, not known for it's complicated short field option passing game. You passed on Keenan Allen because of injuries, not some nonsense scheme objection.
But that was completely irrelevant to what I said about Allen anyway.
You have no idea who they won't take. You're not fooling anyone. You're just arguing with however the Pats are projected to take. I could have called Aaron Dobson in 2013 and you'd have made the same objections.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Jan 17, 2016 12:31:26 GMT -5
Aaron Dobson played in Marshall, not known for it's complicated short field option passing game. You passed on Keenan Allen because of injuries, not some nonsense scheme objection. But that was completely irrelevant to what I said about Allen anyway. You have no idea who they won't take. You're not fooling anyone. You're just arguing with however the Pats are projected to take. I could have called Aaron Dobson in 2013 and you'd have made the same objections. Don't think you understand what an option route is, and you clearly didn't watch Dobson in college. You are clearly taking this entire thing personally, no idea why. Get over yourself, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Post by larryb on Jan 17, 2016 12:48:08 GMT -5
You think the Chargers will take three DE in the first two rounds? Larryb
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Post by Juggs on Jan 17, 2016 13:39:19 GMT -5
Haha no, that was a glitch. Thanks for noticing it. I had them taking Bunkner (3-4DT over Reyes), Lee (3-4OLB over Ingram) and Jason Spriggs, T/G Indiana.
But I moved all the linebackers around after I realized I got halfway into round 2 and forgot Shaq Lawson since he wasn't on my board (hasn't technically declared yet).
But if they draft Spriggs, that does move around a few other picks. I've got that in my notes and I'll fix it for the next one.
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Post by Juggs on Jan 17, 2016 13:41:07 GMT -5
Aaron Dobson played in Marshall, not known for it's complicated short field option passing game. You passed on Keenan Allen because of injuries, not some nonsense scheme objection. But that was completely irrelevant to what I said about Allen anyway. You have no idea who they won't take. You're not fooling anyone. You're just arguing with however the Pats are projected to take. I could have called Aaron Dobson in 2013 and you'd have made the same objections. Don't think you understand what an option route is, and you clearly didn't watch Dobson in college. You are clearly taking this entire thing personally, no idea why. Get over yourself, you have no idea what you are talking about. waahhhhh. Keep whining. If you want to attack me because I disagree with you about something that's not even significant to why I put Lawler there, go right ahead. I don't see why you'd bother, and then when I rebuke it, just attack me and what you think I know instead of arguing.
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Post by Juggs on Jan 22, 2016 10:13:03 GMT -5
Just a few updates from the shine practices, but it didn't cause too many major changes: -swapped Connor Cook and Carson Wentz -Nick Kelly out, Graham Glasgow in -Kenny Lawler out, Tajae Sharp in -Artie Burns out, Javon Hargrave in
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Post by Jancey on Jan 22, 2016 11:26:01 GMT -5
Sorry juggs, but...you have OJ Howard twice.
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Post by Juggs on Jan 22, 2016 17:47:14 GMT -5
Sorry juggs, but...you have OJ Howard twice. He's just that good! Yeah, I always make these mistakes on the first one. I'll fix it for 2.0, thanks for pointing this out.
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