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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 13:51:41 GMT -5
@panther- "Also, saying MO would pay for abusing his power IS bashing. Don't do it". What in the world? That is a fine example of why I have problems with some of this "grey" area. How is me wanting him to be held accountable for his actions as a moderator considered "bashing"? That doesn't seem to fall under any category I would ever call "bashing". That is my problem, and what worries me. Just like when I was talking about human rights, when it come to terrorist'. I said that they shouldn't have any. People argued that if we took away their rights, that the government would just label anyone they wanted as a terrorist so that they can then do whatever the hell they want to. Same thing here.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 13:56:28 GMT -5
My point is....people keep twisting around the meaning of these powerful words, like "attack" and "bashing".
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Post by Panther on May 18, 2014 13:57:41 GMT -5
@panther- "Also, saying MO would pay for abusing his power IS bashing. Don't do it". What in the world? That is a fine example of why I have problems with some of this "grey" area. How is me wanting him to be held accountable for his actions as a moderator considered "bashing"? That doesn't seem to fall under any category I would ever call "bashing". Calling MO a fraud IS bashing. Questioning his decisions is not. Either way, you should've PM'd Plax or myself and handled it far better than starting threads saying MO is a fraud and such. I understand where you're coming from Panther...But telling people to shut the fuck up is no better. Its not solving anything and personally I dont like being told to shut the fuck up. Im not arguing nothing. Im disappointed. Ohh but you want me to get over it. I wonder if anyone here thats offended by any little thing should just get over it too? How do you propose we stop it, then? Because we've been at a standstill for days and I'm not letting it go on any longer. No one has stopped when people have constantly asked for it to stop, whether publicly to those in the argument or privately messaging Moderators to get it to stop. People have been asking for it to stop for days now, and it has gotten nowhere. I'm saying here and now it needs to stop. I like all of you, I wouldn't be here otherwise, but this has gone on far too long and I'm not going to let it go on. You have the ability to stop it, too, Jeff. If don't like how I am handling it, you could simply try to stop it yourself. There ARE going to be times that people get their feelings hurt. I can't control how people feel, but if I post something within the framework of the "rules", and someone feels offended by it...how will you remedy that? I would hope that the time and energy I put into creating a post or thread, will not just get deleted cause someone with thin skin doesn't like what I have to say. And then you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself. There is a difference between posting something that may offend someone and openly calling someone out. Look at the Politics/Religion Board, lots of things there may offend people, but we allow it. We don't allow people to get called out. There's a fine line between posting something that bothers someone unintentionally and intentionally attempting to bother someone.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:00:54 GMT -5
Seems to me like we're not even allowed to challenge someone without it being considered "bashing" or "attacking". I would think that most people would agree...that is ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:08:34 GMT -5
Im sorry Panther.
All Im asking for is a clarification of the rules,people to take responsibility for their wrongdoings,whether its a mod or not,(including mods) and for things to be handled better. I simply do not think this has been handled correctly. Locking threads is not the answer. Mods speaking the way they want..yet do not want us to speak in that manner..is not helping.
How in the world are we supposed to talk about anything,and know if it will offend anyone?
How do we know which Mod it will offend?
How do we know if the mod will treat the situation fairly?
How do we know if a memeber is just out to get sommeone and wants to complain to a mod about their posts?
Those are the grey areas.
I love each and everyone of you...dont wanna go anywhere. But I dont like walking on egg shells.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on May 18, 2014 14:15:47 GMT -5
Im sorry Panther. All Im asking for is a clarification of the rules,people to take responsibility for their wrongdoings,whether its a mod or not,(including mods) and for things to be handled better. I simply do not think this has been handled correctly. Locking threads is not the answer. Mods speaking the way they want..yet do not want us to speak in that manner..is not helping. How in the world are we supposed to talk about anything,and know if it will offend anyone? How do we know which Mod it will offend? How do we know if the mod will treat the situation fairly? How do we know if a memeber is just out to get sommeone and wants to complain to a mod about their posts? Those are the grey areas. I love each and everyone of you...dont wanna go anywhere. But I dont like walking on egg shells. My question is how do you feel they have done up until this week? Because that's probably your answer, no one is out to get anyone else imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:19:57 GMT -5
Now you just want this to go away, huh?
Funny, considering it never had to get to this point. Wouldn't have gotten to this point...if it wasn't for the actions of some inept moderation. I told you all that locking that thread would cause more problems, not solve any.
You should take a better look at who is really responsible for what's taken place here, and take it up with them.
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Post by plax on May 18, 2014 14:25:23 GMT -5
Now you just want this to go away, huh? Funny, considering it never had to get to this point. Wouldn't have gotten to this point...if it wasn't for the actions of some inept moderation. I told you all that by locking that thread would cause more problems, not solve any. You should take a better look at who is responsible for what here, and take it up with them. why do people keep bringing up the locking of threads when that is over with? are there any threads locked right now? so what are you fighting for? there was no winning with the Craig situation. say whatever you want, there WAS NO WINNING with the Craig situation. However, that thing is over with now. It has been since yesterday. nothing in the past day would have happened if people just PMed the mods their concerns about the rules instead of trying to be rebels and rile things up.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:28:54 GMT -5
I think maybe the reason people keep bring up the locked thread thing is because they are wondering if it will be handled that way in the future? According to the rules that are posted here it will not right? So maybe they are wanting to hear something like. Ya we (mods) decided to try and handle it different next time. Or Ya we(mods) will handle it the same next time.
Just a thought.
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Post by MarchingOn on May 18, 2014 14:32:56 GMT -5
Seems to me like we're not even allowed to challenge someone without it being considered "bashing" or "attacking". I would think that most people would agree...that is ridiculous. You're twisting panther's words. He literally just told you it's okay to question my decisions. However, that's not what you've done in the slightest. All you've done is call me a fraud along with some other personal attacks. That is bashing, whether you want to believe it or not.
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