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Post by DirtyBird on May 18, 2014 14:33:09 GMT -5
I think everyone that wants to make a point has made it............ Wheither or not it made a difference it is what it is...... But now I think we should take Panther's advice (Plax included) and STFU...........
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Post by plax on May 18, 2014 14:35:01 GMT -5
I think maybe the reason people keep bring up the locked thread thing is because they are wondering if it will be handled that way in the future? According to the rules that are posted here it will not right? So maybe they are wanting to hear something like. Ya we (mods) decided to try and handle it different next time. Or Ya we(mods) will handle it the same next time. Just a thought. If people wanted to ask that, then just ask it. But since you did, I will answer. Honestly, it would have to depend on the situation. But after seeing what has happened in the past few days, I think it is safe to say that the mods will discuss what the best course of action is. The mods thought the best course of action in your case was locking the thread. You were mad, I got that, so instead of deleting your post and possibly banning you for a short period of time, the mods figured that you would be fine the next morning, so they simply locked the thread for people to calm down. However, with others getting into it and tensions not getting any lower, the thread remained locked. A warning and a PM (and most likely the deletion of a post that the mods see unfit) will be sent to the offender. In all likelihood, the mod who gives the warning will PM the post in question along with the warning. The offender and the mod could discuss things in that PM if they wish. A warning would appear on your account to mods only, so no one would know you have one. A warning is also temporary and if nothing happens in a week or so following the warning, it will be taken away. That way the people who will be punished heavier are the ones who continue to pile on with things that are not allowed (personal attacks, etc)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:42:05 GMT -5
Seems to me like we're not even allowed to challenge someone without it being considered "bashing" or "attacking". I would think that most people would agree...that is ridiculous. You're twisting panther's words. He literally just told you it's okay to question my decisions. However, that's not what you've done in the slightest. All you've done is call me a fraud along with some other personal attacks. That is bashing, whether you want to believe it or not. I call it like I see it. People need to be held accountable for their actions. So if you're a fraud, I'm going to call you a fraud. I'm not going to change that part about myself, it is who I am, and what I'm made of. If that's gonna be considered attacking, or bashing, then so be it. Whatever happens, happens.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:43:07 GMT -5
I would have deleted the post because I knew I screwed up. But I couldn't because the thread was locked. If it was deleted by a mod that would have been fine with me. So all is good.
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Post by MarchingOn on May 18, 2014 14:46:56 GMT -5
You're twisting panther's words. He literally just told you it's okay to question my decisions. However, that's not what you've done in the slightest. All you've done is call me a fraud along with some other personal attacks. That is bashing, whether you want to believe it or not. I call it like I see it. People need to be held accountable for their actions. So if you're a fraud, I'm going to call you a fraud. I'm not going to change that part about myself, it is who I am, and what I'm made of. If that's gonna be considered attacking, or bashing, then so be it. Whatever happens, happens. Why are you changing your argument now? The post I responded to, you were complaining about "not being able to challenge someone without it being considered bashing" In this post, you don't even mention that. All you're doing now is attacking me (again) and talk about how you don't care if people think you're bashing or not. So I ask you, what the heck are you even arguing?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:50:44 GMT -5
I think everyone that wants to make a point has made it............ Wheither or not it made a difference it is what it is...... But now I think we should take Panther's advice (Plax included) and STFU........... I kind of have to agree with you here. It just is what it is. Nothing more can really be said that hasn't already been said. Hopefully we have all learned something from this. I sure have. Special thanks to Jancey & MO. I'm out
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Post by plax on May 18, 2014 14:52:44 GMT -5
I would have deleted the post because I knew I screwed up. But I couldn't because the thread was locked. If it was deleted by a mod that would have been fine with me. So all is good. Yes, all posts or threads that are against forum rules will be deleted or at least taken away from the thread/board. To be honest, I do not know why your posts weren't taken down sooner, but now the mods know what to do with those kinds of things. The mods have been informed on how to handle situations, so it would be appreciated if the members of the forum could respect that from this point forward. If the members follow the rules, everything will be fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:54:10 GMT -5
When does football start?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 15:16:17 GMT -5
Okay, so I lied. I just want to sum this up in a nutshell. Then I'm out.
People ARE going to disagree, OFTEN. Unless someone is obviously "stalking" another user with hateful words and attacks, there should be NO action taken. I'm okay with people challenging me. Those who are not, should not comment on controversial topics, unless they are prepared to deal with some form of criticism. That's just the way it is.
Ironically enough, some of the same people who like to use words like hateful, attacking and bashing, are the same ones who I've noticed tend to seek those types of responses from people...hence...baiting. They purposely insert themselves into controversial conversations with "witty" little sarcastic one-liners, then cry wolf when someone responds back to them. Some people TRULY get off on that type of shit...following and stalking other "controversial" users or topics, with the sole intention of stirring the pot. Then they cry wolf. I'm telling you, it's the truth.
You CANNOT allow those types of users to dictate how you run your forum. That is the EXACT reason why NFL.com forums were shut down. Because of people like that. All that I can ask and hope for, is that Panther keeps that in mind when handling issues in the future. Listen closely to what I just said. Re-read it a few times if necessary. I speak the truth.
now I'm done
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Post by Jindred on May 18, 2014 16:28:31 GMT -5
There is a difference between challenging someone and attacking. The difference is in how you go about it and the level of respect you use. There has been a total lack of respect around here from everyone involved in this situation towards each other and that's what needs to stop. Treat your fellow forum goers with respect is literally what each of the 6 rules is about, it is not that complicated.. I don't see these "Grey Area's". Do you feel like what you said was disrespectful to another person? Do you feel like that person will feel disrespected by what you said? Answer those two questions and you're golden!
As far as locking the threads, what would a better action have been? Continue allowing people to bicker and fire personal shots at each other, or stop the conversation and allow the people to cool off? Why are people getting so offended by this action? A thread can be unlocked when everyone has calmed down and are ready to talk level headedly. If two children are fighting is it better to separate them till they cool off so they can talk it out, or should they keep fighting until one is seriously hurt?
I trust the Mods here 100% as they have never done anything, in my eyes, that causes me to distrusts them.. Have they handled everything perfectly? No, but this is most of these guys first time being Mods of anything and you can't get good at something until you have done it before. Give them a break, as I stated in another thread people aren't perfect and are prone to making some mistakes. Up until now the Mods have done a great job of running this place, and I trust their judgement in these supposed grey areas.
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