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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 13:46:34 GMT -5
Emotional basis is crap...I dont wanna hear that. Emotional basis is not crap. If you couldn't marry the woman you love for some absurd reason, that would bother you. You just don't want to hear anything you don't agree with. Nope...no it wouldnt. Marriage is not sacred remember? Some guy made it up. Probably a lawyer who wants your tax money. So No...wouldnt bother me. Emotional basis IS crap. People need to grow up and grow some thick skin
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 12, 2014 13:47:50 GMT -5
Well..Sorry Saska...Im going to say it. Everybody faces those same issues. Not only blacks, but all of us. No, you are wrong. Everyone faces issues but different groups, namely the minorities, face different, larger issues. There is a lot of racism and bigotry in our world and in America it is directed more towards blacks/latinos, just like in Canada it is directed more towards first nations. You don't have any basic rights being withheld from you, while others, like gay people, do. It is not the same and you are wrong.
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 12, 2014 13:51:37 GMT -5
Emotional basis is not crap. If you couldn't marry the woman you love for some absurd reason, that would bother you. You just don't want to hear anything you don't agree with. Nope...no it wouldnt. Marriage is not sacred remember? Some guy made it up. Probably a lawyer who wants your tax money. So No...wouldnt bother me. Emotional basis IS crap. People need to grow up and grow some thick skin If only we could all be tough-guys who don't give a shit about anything. Marriage is not sacred in a religious sense. The sacred meaning of marriage to a Christian is completely irrelevant to non-Christians. That doesn't mean it doesn't have meaning to people. I still love the woman I am going to marry and I care about her more than anything. There is a huge emotional attachment for my marriage to her, for me. Is that all crap? I am happy that I am able to marry this woman and I think gays and straights, and people of all colors should get to experience the same thing. And yes, to benefit from all the legal benefits as well, such as tax breaks and insurance benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 13:53:02 GMT -5
Well..Sorry Saska...Im going to say it. Everybody faces those same issues. Not only blacks, but all of us. No, you are wrong. Everyone faces issues but different groups, namely the minorities, face different, larger issues. There is a lot of racism and bigotry in our world and in America it is directed more towards blacks/latinos, just like in Canada it is directed more towards first nations. You don't have any basic rights being withheld from you, while others, like gay people, do. It is not the same and you are wrong. It is the same Saska...Im not wrong.
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Post by Morkim on Feb 12, 2014 13:53:41 GMT -5
Nope...no it wouldnt. Marriage is not sacred remember? Some guy made it up. Probably a lawyer who wants your tax money. So No...wouldnt bother me. Emotional basis IS crap. People need to grow up and grow some thick skin If only we could all be tough-guys who don't give a shit about anything. Marriage is not sacred in a religious sense. The sacred meaning of marriage to a Christian is completely irrelevant to non-Christians. That doesn't mean it doesn't have meaning to people. I still love the woman I am going to marry and I care about her more than anything. There is a huge emotional attachment for my marriage to her, for me. Is that all crap? I am happy that I am able to marry this woman and I think gays and straights, and people of all colors should get to experience the same thing. And yes, to benefit from all the legal benefits as well, such as tax breaks and insurance benefits. I'm pretty sure you're marrying her for a tax break. I don't know Canadian tax laws though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 13:57:21 GMT -5
Nope...no it wouldnt. Marriage is not sacred remember? Some guy made it up. Probably a lawyer who wants your tax money. So No...wouldnt bother me. Emotional basis IS crap. People need to grow up and grow some thick skin If only we could all be tough-guys who don't give a shit about anything. Marriage is not sacred in a religious sense. The sacred meaning of marriage to a Christian is completely irrelevant to non-Christians. That doesn't mean it doesn't have meaning to people. I still love the woman I am going to marry and I care about her more than anything. There is a huge emotional attachment for my marriage to her, for me. Is that all crap? I am happy that I am able to marry this woman and I think gays and straights, and people of all colors should get to experience the same thing. And yes, to benefit from all the legal benefits as well, such as tax breaks and insurance benefits. Does not change my mind about it. Marriage is made up...and gay people arent missing anything that they havent already done. Ohh wait...the tax break. Thats right I forgot. This is ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 14:03:25 GMT -5
Marriage is a privilege, not a right December 27, 2013 8:02 PM JONATHAN DOHANICH Pittsburgh Gazette
I found it interesting how the Post-Gazette editorial board criticized Gov. Tom Corbett in a Dec. 18 editorial for his defending the commonwealth’s Defense of Marriage Act. The editorial stated that the act deprives homosexuals of rights, as if getting a marriage license is a civil or universal right. It simply is not. It is a privilege.
Marriage is something that has always been heavily regulated by the state because it provides some government benefits to the two spouses (which is arguable today) ultimately because the union will be fruitful and result in children. The state has special interest in who is having children because when a child does not have an intact spousal unit, it becomes costly to the state.
For these reasons, it is illegal in Pennsylvania for anyone under the age of 16 to marry and it is illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to marry without parental/guardian consent. Further, it is illegal in a number of instances for blood relatives to marry including first cousins. Further, it is illegal to marry more than one person. Homosexuals who want to marry in the commonwealth then need to ask themselves why they should be able to marry and not individuals in the above groups.
The fact is homosexual “marriage” provides no benefit to the state. If homosexual couples want certain governmental or social benefits, these can easily be obtained by consulting an attorney. Hospital visitation, inheritance rights, a living will or designation of a significant other as a trustee are easy legal matters to resolve.
A Gallup poll in May 2012 found that 42 percent of Americans believe homosexual acts are immoral. What homosexuals who want to marry will not admit is that they want to force these Americans to call themselves bigots when in fact they are simply following their consciences. This is a violation of religious liberty.
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 12, 2014 14:17:05 GMT -5
Marriage is a privilege, not a right December 27, 2013 8:02 PM JONATHAN DOHANICH Pittsburgh Gazette I found it interesting how the Post-Gazette editorial board criticized Gov. Tom Corbett in a Dec. 18 editorial for his defending the commonwealth’s Defense of Marriage Act. The editorial stated that the act deprives homosexuals of rights, as if getting a marriage license is a civil or universal right. It simply is not. It is a privilege. Marriage is something that has always been heavily regulated by the state because it provides some government benefits to the two spouses (which is arguable today) ultimately because the union will be fruitful and result in children. The state has special interest in who is having children because when a child does not have an intact spousal unit, it becomes costly to the state. For these reasons, it is illegal in Pennsylvania for anyone under the age of 16 to marry and it is illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to marry without parental/guardian consent. Further, it is illegal in a number of instances for blood relatives to marry including first cousins. Further, it is illegal to marry more than one person. Homosexuals who want to marry in the commonwealth then need to ask themselves why they should be able to marry and not individuals in the above groups. The fact is homosexual “marriage” provides no benefit to the state. If homosexual couples want certain governmental or social benefits, these can easily be obtained by consulting an attorney. Hospital visitation, inheritance rights, a living will or designation of a significant other as a trustee are easy legal matters to resolve. A Gallup poll in May 2012 found that 42 percent of Americans believe homosexual acts are immoral. What homosexuals who want to marry will not admit is that they want to force these Americans to call themselves bigots when in fact they are simply following their consciences. This is a violation of religious liberty. How is a homosexual relationship any different from a relationship in which the man or woman are unable to reproduce. What is different between a barren couple and a homosexual couple, other than the fact that people find the homosexuals to be icky? What if they marry and then adopt, which many gay couples try to do, and then they provide a family to a child. If they adopt a child, who would otherwise just be a dependent of the state, in a state-run foster program, should they be allowed to get married then. All the issues you bring up don't need to include homosexuals. Why should they not be allowed the privilege? Why shouldn't they be allowed the same tax breaks as others? People believing what they choose to believe is them making use of their religious liberty. Someone making you feel guilty about what you believe is not a violation of your rights. If you feel guilty about it, it's probably wrong. If you don't feel guilty, then there is no problem on your end.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Feb 12, 2014 14:21:55 GMT -5
I think now would be the time to move this thread in the religion/politics section,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 14:25:17 GMT -5
Im done now...I stated my case. And Im not wrong.
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