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Post by MarchingOn on Nov 21, 2013 0:58:01 GMT -5
On the SVP show they leaked Winston will not be charged.
Good for Winston! Glad he could clear his name of this.
It's looking like the "victim" lied for attention after all.
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Post by plax on Nov 21, 2013 1:25:06 GMT -5
Always happens to the stars
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Nov 21, 2013 3:20:23 GMT -5
Should only happen to duck players. And MarchingOn , your thread title should read "Winston 'could' be in deep trouble" After reading the article this Smells very duke lacrossy to me boys.
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Post by Jindred on Nov 21, 2013 3:25:21 GMT -5
Here are some thoughts I have on this..
I thought Rothlisberger was guilty after the second rape charge. However looking back on it I have changed my views a little bit. Why would a star football player need to rape or sexually assault anyone? There are plenty of women out there who are willing to drop theirs panties for these guys without a second thought.. so why would they ever have need to rape anyone?
I feel like many of the women who come out after sleeping with a star athlete are just trying to get money and or fame out the situation. I am not saying Winston nor Rothlisberger is innocent or guilty, however I am saying I don't understand why they would ever have the need to sexually assault anyone.
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Post by MarchingOn on Nov 21, 2013 4:19:08 GMT -5
Should only happen to duck players. And MarchingOn , your thread title should read "Winston 'could' be in deep trouble" After reading the article this Smells very duke lacrossy to me boys. Big difference between the two cases. The Duke lacrosse scandal, put shortly, was some crazy broad making false allegations. There was never anything to suggest any of the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. There is reason to believe Winston is guilty. Jameis' DNA, specifically his semen, was matched to the DNA found in the victim's underwear. C'mon. How on earth is THAT going to get there if Winston is innocent?
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Post by MarchingOn on Nov 21, 2013 4:25:19 GMT -5
Here are some thoughts I have on this.. I thought Rothlisberger was guilty after the second rape charge. However looking back on it I have changed my views a little bit. Why would a star football player need to rape or sexually assault anyone? There are plenty of women out there who are willing to drop theirs panties for these guys without a second thought.. so why would they ever have need to rape anyone? I feel like many of the women who come out after sleeping with a star athlete are just trying to get money and or fame out the situation. I am not saying Winston nor Rothlisberger is innocent or guilty, however I am saying I don't understand why they would ever have the need to sexually assault anyone. I agree with your premise that it's probably very easy for famous QBs to find girls like that, and I agree, it doesn't make any sense for a celebrity/star like Winston and Roethlisberger to even think about doing something like sexual assault. But I think it's worth noting that, if this is all true, this occurred in 2012. Jameis Winston was a nobody in 2012, he wasn't the famous, Heisman contending rockstar he is now.
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Post by saskabronco on Nov 21, 2013 8:25:07 GMT -5
Should only happen to duck players. And MarchingOn , your thread title should read "Winston 'could' be in deep trouble" Ed After reading the article this Smells very duke lacrossy to me boys. Big difference between the two cases. The Duke lacrosse scandal, put shortly, was some crazy broad making false allegations. There was never anything to suggest any of the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. There is reason to believe Winston is guilty. Jameis' DNA, specifically his semen, was matched to the DNA found in the victim's underwear. C'mon. How on earth is THAT going to get there if Winston is innocent? The DNA could have got there through legal means. Maybe they just had sex, then she accused him of rape. Until there is evidence of wrong doing, I wouldn't consider him guilty.
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Post by MarchingOn on Nov 21, 2013 9:42:49 GMT -5
Big difference between the two cases. The Duke lacrosse scandal, put shortly, was some crazy broad making false allegations. There was never anything to suggest any of the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. There is reason to believe Winston is guilty. Jameis' DNA, specifically his semen, was matched to the DNA found in the victim's underwear. C'mon. How on earth is THAT going to get there if Winston is innocent? The DNA could have got there through legal means. Maybe they just had sex, then she accused him of rape. Until there is evidence of wrong doing, I wouldn't consider him guilty. True, I didn't think about that. Hopefully it's what you said. That'd be better for both parties involved.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Nov 21, 2013 10:45:42 GMT -5
Should only happen to duck players. And MarchingOn , your thread title should read "Winston 'could' be in deep trouble" After reading the article this Smells very duke lacrossy to me boys. Big difference between the two cases. The Duke lacrosse scandal, put shortly, was some crazy broad making false allegations. There was never anything to suggest any of the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. There is reason to believe Winston is guilty. Jameis' DNA, specifically his semen, was matched to the DNA found in the victim's underwear. C'mon. How on earth is THAT going to get there if Winston is innocent? All it means is that they had Sex....very hard to prove it wasn't consensual ... Edit...as Jin pointed out. Also...Winston was Famous in his own circles...full ride to FSU, etc....probably a girl who wanted for him to take her along after graduation ....they make movies and shit about it all the time. I just don't like "sexual assault" charges w/out evidence of assault, like bruises etc....and why is this just coming to fruition almost a year after the fact? Ex girl friend who's pissed that he's a star?
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Post by plax on Nov 21, 2013 11:30:44 GMT -5
Big difference between the two cases. The Duke lacrosse scandal, put shortly, was some crazy broad making false allegations. There was never anything to suggest any of the Duke lacrosse players were guilty. There is reason to believe Winston is guilty. Jameis' DNA, specifically his semen, was matched to the DNA found in the victim's underwear. C'mon. How on earth is THAT going to get there if Winston is innocent? All it means is that they had Sex....very hard to prove it wasn't consensual ... Edit...as Jin pointed out. Also...Winston was Famous in his own circles...full ride to FSU, etc....probably a girl who wanted for him to take her along after graduation ....they make movies and shit about it all the time. I just don't like "sexual assault" charges w/out evidence of assault, like bruises etc....and why is this just coming to fruition almost a year after the fact? Ex girl friend who's pissed that he's a star? I agree with several of your points. It is almost impossible to assume it is sexual assault at this point because how can we tell? It happened over a year ago. And the "over a year ago" thing is the big thing for me as well. As you have stated, this is all coming to fruition now? And coincidentally, FSU is a hopeful for the BCS; and Winston for the Heisman. Quick question - and maybe I am completely missing something - it is possible to find DNA of semen on clothing that was probably washed several times (seeing as how it was her underwear and washed quite frequently)? My opinion? I think they simply had something going on and that she is bringing this up now for two reasons - she is jealous of his success, and that she is upset regarding the fallout of their relationship. No doubt this is an interesting topic - and hopefully everything will settle itself out.
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