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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Sept 16, 2013 13:54:55 GMT -5
Plax..you shouldnt be surprised at the outcome... Broncos > Seahawks > 49ers > Everybody else. Talk about living in a fantasy land. Wtf
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Sept 16, 2013 13:57:30 GMT -5
No EagleDomiKnation, you are wrong. I said the main concerns on our team are those three. And they ARE our biggest concerns. Eli is not having the time to throw the ball because of the long-developed routes the WRs run and the OL playing terrible. Pugh has been our best OL this year so far. Does Eli have to make better decisions? Of course, but the MAJORITY of his problems is due to the OL troubles and the complicated scheme the Giants run. Yeah, you must be right. Giants run game is fine, defense is great, 7 interceptions in two games is all on the Oline. You got me man. Glad you came through. Delusions setting in plaximus prime
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Post by plax on Sept 16, 2013 14:10:09 GMT -5
No EagleDomiKnation, you are wrong. I said the main concerns on our team are those three. And they ARE our biggest concerns. Eli is not having the time to throw the ball because of the long-developed routes the WRs run and the OL playing terrible. Pugh has been our best OL this year so far. Does Eli have to make better decisions? Of course, but the MAJORITY of his problems is due to the OL troubles and the complicated scheme the Giants run. Yeah, you must be right. Giants run game is fine, defense is great, 7 interceptions in two games is all on the Oline. You got me man. Glad you came through. Delusions setting in plaximus prime Oh, I'm sorry. I must have forgot where I said our run game is golden. I must have forgot I said our Defense is AMAZING. Learn to read. I said our BIGGEST problems are the 3 I mentioned before. Not sure how you were taught, but saying "biggest problems" does not mean ALL problems. How do you run the ball successfully? BLOCKING. CORRECT ASSIGNMENTS. If we have no good blocking, how can we run the ball? Stop being dumb. When our OL does not block, the defense gets RIGHT to Eli, forcing him to make quick throws. The last pick in the DAL game was on Scott and the OL. the OL got to Eli quick, and Scott was not able to turn around quick enough. The last pick in the DEN game was just Eli trying to make a play. And again, no blocking. Eli had no time for his guys to even DEVELOP a route for a 10 yard gain. And the foot interception was just stupid. You keep saying that I am delusional. I KNOW what the problems are on the Giants. Games are won in trenches, and with the Giants' inability to get pressure on the DL and their inability to block on the OL, we are losing games. You just seem to be the one who tries to put blame on Eli for all of this. He has to play better, but he is FAR from our troubles this year. @jeffb2865 who said I was surprised? In another thread, I made it clear that I would NOT be surprised if either team won the game. So not sure where you are getting that from...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 14:16:36 GMT -5
Yeah, you must be right. Giants run game is fine, defense is great, 7 interceptions in two games is all on the Oline. You got me man. Glad you came through. Delusions setting in plaximus prime @jeffb2865 who said I was surprised? In another thread, I made it clear that I would NOT be surprised if either team won the game. So not sure where you are getting that from... Nobody Plax...I made it up. Im trolling today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 14:22:08 GMT -5
What the heck are you doing unkle Jeff? Last time I said anything good about the Broncos you spanked me. Now you are one? Larryb
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 14:27:19 GMT -5
What the heck are you doing unkle Jeff? Last time I said anything good about the Broncos you spanked me. Now you are one? Larryb Baja Mexico... Spank the monkey. Shut up Neppie. Im de troll.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Sept 16, 2013 16:08:22 GMT -5
Yeah, you must be right. Giants run game is fine, defense is great, 7 interceptions in two games is all on the Oline. You got me man. Glad you came through. Delusions setting in plaximus prime Oh, I'm sorry. I must have forgot where I said our run game is golden. I must have forgot I said our Defense is AMAZING. Learn to read. I said our BIGGEST problems are the 3 I mentioned before. Not sure how you were taught, but saying "biggest problems" does not mean ALL problems. How do you run the ball successfully? BLOCKING. CORRECT ASSIGNMENTS. If we have no good blocking, how can we run the ball? Stop being dumb. When our OL does not block, the defense gets RIGHT to Eli, forcing him to make quick throws. The last pick in the DAL game was on Scott and the OL. the OL got to Eli quick, and Scott was not able to turn around quick enough. The last pick in the DEN game was just Eli trying to make a play. And again, no blocking. Eli had no time for his guys to even DEVELOP a route for a 10 yard gain. And the foot interception was just stupid. You keep saying that I am delusional. I KNOW what the problems are on the Giants. Games are won in trenches, and with the Giants' inability to get pressure on the DL and their inability to block on the OL, we are losing games. You just seem to be the one who tries to put blame on Eli for all of this. He has to play better, but he is FAR from our troubles this year. @jeffb2865 who said I was surprised? In another thread, I made it clear that I would NOT be surprised if either team won the game. So not sure where you are getting that from... I'm dumb. You win. The Biggest problems are whatever you deem them to be. Over and out. Every bad throw, fumble, and TD given up is the Oline and Dlines doing. Sorry. I must be watching different games.
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Post by plax on Sept 16, 2013 16:29:52 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sorry. I must have forgot where I said our run game is golden. I must have forgot I said our Defense is AMAZING. Learn to read. I said our BIGGEST problems are the 3 I mentioned before. Not sure how you were taught, but saying "biggest problems" does not mean ALL problems. How do you run the ball successfully? BLOCKING. CORRECT ASSIGNMENTS. If we have no good blocking, how can we run the ball? Stop being dumb. When our OL does not block, the defense gets RIGHT to Eli, forcing him to make quick throws. The last pick in the DAL game was on Scott and the OL. the OL got to Eli quick, and Scott was not able to turn around quick enough. The last pick in the DEN game was just Eli trying to make a play. And again, no blocking. Eli had no time for his guys to even DEVELOP a route for a 10 yard gain. And the foot interception was just stupid. You keep saying that I am delusional. I KNOW what the problems are on the Giants. Games are won in trenches, and with the Giants' inability to get pressure on the DL and their inability to block on the OL, we are losing games. You just seem to be the one who tries to put blame on Eli for all of this. He has to play better, but he is FAR from our troubles this year. @jeffb2865 who said I was surprised? In another thread, I made it clear that I would NOT be surprised if either team won the game. So not sure where you are getting that from... I'm dumb. You win. The Biggest problems are whatever you deem them to be. Over and out. Every bad throw, fumble, and TD given up is the Oline and Dlines doing. Sorry. I must be watching different games. I love how you try to start confrontation, and then when someone reacts, you try to run away from it. Do I gotta go back to start giving you breaks again, breh? LOL We cannot run because of poor blocking. A lot of our route assignments cannot be completed because our line is not blocking. Hmmmm. There is a trend there, I think. I remember one play specifically, where both Snee AND Baas missed ONE guy, who went right inbetween them and pressured Eli. Our guys are not even blocking poor. A lot of times, they aren't even BLOCKING. I have not watched the game a 2nd time, but from what I remember, Eli only had 4+ seconds to throw maybe 3 or 4 times throughout the game. Eli had to run outside the pocket on several occasions to buy himself some time to throw the ball. You act like I am saying Eli has been great and everything. I am not. But his stats do not reflect how he has played this year. We had some bad breaks on 3 INTs, and a lot of times, Eli is being forced to pass before he wants to. And again, and I cannot stress this enough, our scheme is one of the more complicated schemes in the league. A lot of the routes that our guys run take a good amount of time to develop. When we do not have the proper blocking to give Eli time to make those throws, it is not gonna work out. The New York Giants defense runs through the defensive line. 5 years ago when we had a top defense, it was because we had a punishing DL. In the 2011 playoffs, when our defense picked up, it was because the pressure our DL brought. The Giants live and die by the DL, and we are getting absolutely no push on opposing OLs. JPP does not look that good. Tuck is done. Joseph can only do so much up the middle. Jenkins has been pretty good at times. About 3 or 4 times against DEN, we got to Peyton, but our guys missed the sack, with Peyton breaking out of the pocket and making a pass (I believe only one of those were imcomplete). Our LBs and DBs were NEVER top notch. Our DL made them look better than advertised. Look how much of a bust Aaron Ross was when he left the Giants following the SB in 2011. Look at mediocre Gibril Wilson was when he left the Giants. Michael Boley was not even picked up by a team. We are being exposed now as we have no push on the DL. Now, our DBs are not bad by any stretch. Prince Amukamara has the ability to be special if he puts it together. Webster is not the man he once was, but can cover guys from time to time. Terrell Thomas has been the star of the defense so far. And Aaron Ross has been great for us in limited action. The Giants just do not value LBs. The defense feeds off of the DL. And we always try to get above-average DBs to help out. The LBs do not have a place on the team, something that I disagree with a LOT. Look at Willis and Bowman and Lee and Wagner and all of those guys. They make a big difference in the game. I think if we can get a MLB, it will do us wonders. One big problem with the Giants that is not shown on the field is the loyalty the FO has for veterans. That is the only reason why Tuck and Webster are still starting. And if Boley didn't get in trouble, he would still probably be here. The FO does not get rid of their veteran talent. We do not even like to demote them to a backup role. And it shows. Tuck just does not have it. Webster lost it. Rolle is not the guy he was 2 years ago, though he is still a very good safety. Hopefully, we do not bring Tuck or Webster back next year, at least for no more than the vet. minimum. And on offense, Snee is not the same. I am not sure what is going on with him, but he is just not good. Baas was the guy who was supposed to reshape our OL and make us forget about Ohara. He never missed a game joining the Giants, and he cannot stay on the field with them since joining. Overall, please do not assume that I am saying that the OL, DL, and playcalling are our ONLY problems, because we have many more, as stated above. But our OL is making everyone's time on offense tough. Pugh is the only guy holding his own. Beatty is showing flashes, but has not been worth the money we gave him so far, IMO. I am eagerly awaiting the debut of Damontre Moore, as I think he is the future across JPP. Eli has to learn that if he is getting pressured and no one is there, just throw it away. Punting > INT. And as said numerous times, games are won in the trenches, and that is why we are 0-2.
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