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Post by Panther on Jan 18, 2013 12:52:59 GMT -5
If it wasn't for this junk, I'd of said he should be a bottom of the 1st / top of the 2nd player. Now I'd wait till the 2nd round if it's fake, and wait longer if it's true. If what was true exactly? This is not just one true or false thing. If he was in on it.
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Post by Jindred on Jan 18, 2013 13:29:08 GMT -5
Jindred and shaggz...I think you may be confused about why many of us confused. lol According to several sources (we don't know if it came from Manti himself) it was not just online. Manti's father told the South Bend (IN) Tribune that the girl had made a few trips to Hawaii from 2010 thru 2011. There was an account of how they met after a game in 2009, but we don't know where that info came from. Then there's all the crazy hospital stuff. See my post on page 5. Then the Deadspin reporter somehow 'deduces' that they only met online Oct 2011. So the timelines of conflicting facts or accounts from various sources where there is no citing of the original source is what is confusing. At least 1 person is lying but we don't know who or why. Ah well that makes far more sense as to why everyone is confused.. and far less sense in the whole thing... So basically they believe he is lying about someone lying to him.. This is Inception its a lie inside of a lie inside of another lie!
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Post by Divebitch on Jan 18, 2013 14:38:25 GMT -5
Ah well that makes far more sense as to why everyone is confused.. and far less sense in the whole thing... So basically they believe he is lying about someone lying to him.. This is Inception its a lie inside of a lie inside of another lie! Yep, yep, yep. The final one seems to be clinging on with a speech about the girlfriend like 6 days after he's already been told it was a hoax. And gotcha panther. IMO, it is so convoluted, that no one (reporter) will drop this.
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Post by theroarrr on Jan 18, 2013 17:03:28 GMT -5
However this plays out from now on whether he's guilty or not guilty, drafted high or draft low. None of it will matter now until he plays his first snap in the NFL and is under the microscope for the first game of the season. Why? Because this will always follow him now. He will always be that guy associated with this bizarre story which you can't just run away from. He was already the most intriguing prospect in the draft before this because of being the leader of ND team that at the beginning of the season had no chance of going undefeated to a BCS Championship game and now it's just gone to a whole new level.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jan 18, 2013 18:00:28 GMT -5
I don't know... I think he'll end up on my Raiders after the comments Reggie made. He may trade down to pick up an extra pick and use a 2nd on him. As long as it's for a legitimate reason, I have no issue with him being on the team. But if it was just a game plain and simple then I'd question him being any better of an addition the McClain was.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jan 18, 2013 18:02:31 GMT -5
Jindred and shaggz...I think you may be confused about why many of us confused. lol According to several sources (we don't know if it came from Manti himself) it was not just online. Manti's father told the South Bend (IN) Tribune that the girl had made a few trips to Hawaii from 2010 thru 2011. There was an account of how they met after a game in 2009, but we don't know where that info came from. Then there's all the crazy hospital stuff. See my post on page 5. Then the Deadspin reporter somehow 'deduces' that they only met online Oct 2011. So the timelines of conflicting facts or accounts from various sources where there is no citing of the original source is what is confusing. At least 1 person is lying but we don't know who or why. No I'm not confused about that, cause that's supposedly how they met. My issue is the inconsistencies between stories. And his flip after the truth came out.
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Post by theroarrr on Jan 18, 2013 22:31:37 GMT -5
I don't know... I think he'll end up on my Raiders after the comments Reggie made. He may trade down to pick up an extra pick and use a 2nd on him. As long as it's for a legitimate reason, I have no issue with him being on the team. But if it was just a game plain and simple then I'd question him being any better of an addition the McClain was. If he goes to the Raiders theres no way its at 3 its either in a trade down in the first or with there 2nd round pick.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jan 18, 2013 23:04:21 GMT -5
I don't know... I think he'll end up on my Raiders after the comments Reggie made. He may trade down to pick up an extra pick and use a 2nd on him. As long as it's for a legitimate reason, I have no issue with him being on the team. But if it was just a game plain and simple then I'd question him being any better of an addition the McClain was. If he goes to the Raiders theres no way its at 3 its either in a trade down in the first or with there 2nd round pick. Haha yeah thats what i meant is we'd trade down to pick up a second to use on him.
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Post by 101mitch on Jan 19, 2013 1:04:52 GMT -5
Alright... PLEASE tell me he was in on it... I will take a top 5 talent in the second round more times that not. I think he wasn't in on it though.
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Post by Jancey on Jan 19, 2013 1:10:17 GMT -5
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