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Post by Jindred on Feb 3, 2015 2:19:24 GMT -5
I don't know because I don't get how your brain works. You are the only person here I ever see talking about the need for new moderation with any kid of seriousness. I don't see anyone else complaining or bringing it up, and I don't see this forum having a whole bunch of problems. But you insinuated that there is something else, something deeper to this by your comment.
Think of it like this. Would you fire Joe Philbin for Bill Belicheck?
You have a Belicheck sitting here. Heck, you have more than one Belicheck here. Why settle for mediocrity when it can be better?
As far as football goes, I would fire Philbin right now and try someone else, cause I think Philbin is shit. So weak metaphor. Next, I think this forum is running completely fine. So again I don't see mediocrity, and I don't see how this experience can be improved that much. Who else is having problems? As far as something deeper by my comment, again I don't really know how your brain works so I can't comment accurately, but what I see is a person who can't deal with not having his way. So what I assume you want is to be made moderator, so you can be the big shit on the block and so you can do things as you see fit.
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Post by Beastified on Feb 3, 2015 2:23:53 GMT -5
But you insinuated that there is something else, something deeper to this by your comment.
Think of it like this. Would you fire Joe Philbin for Bill Belicheck?
You have a Belicheck sitting here. Heck, you have more than one Belicheck here. Why settle for mediocrity when it can be better?
As far as football goes, I would fire Philbin right now and try someone else, cause I think Philbin is shit. So weak metaphor. Next, I think this forum is running completely fine. So again I don't see mediocrity, and I don't see how this experience can be improved that much. Who else is having problems? As far as something deeper by my comment, again I don't really know how your brain works so I can't comment accurately, but what I see is a person who can't deal with not having his way. So what I assume you want is to be made moderator, so you can be the big shit on the block and so you can do things as you see fit. Open your mind to new things and you will be amazed at what you discover.
This is only the third time I have ever asked for moderation privileges. Why not try something new when there is room for improvement? Microsoft and Apple are constantly innovating. If they never changed, they would be out of business. This forum needs a change.
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Post by Jindred on Feb 3, 2015 2:36:00 GMT -5
As far as football goes, I would fire Philbin right now and try someone else, cause I think Philbin is shit. So weak metaphor. Next, I think this forum is running completely fine. So again I don't see mediocrity, and I don't see how this experience can be improved that much. Who else is having problems? As far as something deeper by my comment, again I don't really know how your brain works so I can't comment accurately, but what I see is a person who can't deal with not having his way. So what I assume you want is to be made moderator, so you can be the big shit on the block and so you can do things as you see fit. Open your mind to new things and you will be amazed at what you discover.
This is only the third time I have ever asked for moderation privileges. Why not try something new when there is room for improvement? Microsoft and Apple are constantly innovating. If they never changed, they would be out of business. This forum needs a change.
Again I don't see the need for change. So to me it would be change for the sake of change, which can sometimes be good, but when it comes to a forum what can you really change? You can change some of the rules, you can add a new topic bored, and you can moderate slightly differently, but its still just people conversing about football and other stuff. The absolutely only thing I would change about this forum, is I would like to see more new blood coming through here, and that is something only advertising and word of mouth can solve.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 5:30:52 GMT -5
It may not amount to anything, you may be correct.
As it currently stands, Panther really controls all and when he sees this thread it might sway him to make a decision and listen to the people.
LOL "listen to the people" You mean "listen to you" right? Keep waving the flag of the republic of Beastified. There is no 'people', there is no popular movement supporting a change. There is no "may" involved in whether or not this is valid or whether or not I am right in saying that the rules don't leave any room for a vote. It's a fact that the rules are written as they are. You're trying to debate the color of the sky. Of course, if Panther as an admin or another mod wants to make a change, that can happen, but just calling for a vote is not the right way to do that at all, not that it's neccesary. But if you want action on this subject, the proper way to do it would be to petition Panther via a PM to change the rules to include a method for, or even the fair possibility of a change. Then, if that happens (it won't), there could be an added or changed moderation team, but probably not via an election anyway. Remember that the precedent is that no action can happen at all. You're jumping to conclusions that an amendment to the rules would even call for an election, as opposed to direct appointment or cyclical representation, and you make that leap with no logical ground. Long story short: this vote is bogus. The rules need to specify a process for changing moderators. The fact that they don't means that you can't do this or anything like this. You just sound scared.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 5:37:27 GMT -5
These mods are like the kids who got bullied all thier lives, then became cops to look for revenge and feel special about themselves.
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Post by inoccent on Feb 3, 2015 9:54:27 GMT -5
The solution is easy. If you don't like the Mods and how things are run, leave. This isn't East Germany. We aren't keeping you here against your will.
We are the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the loony bin!
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Post by Juggs on Feb 3, 2015 10:51:50 GMT -5
Sigh
So, because Beast has buried what I wrote earlier, I feel it needs to be reposted for everyone just showing up now, especially if he is going to spell the narrative even though he knows this can't amount to anything.
1. Read the rules of this forum, something you should probably have done as someone who asks to be a mod every 15 minutes lol. There is a section which clearly covers moderators and administrators, but leaves out any way for mods to be added or changed. So, if you want to be a mod so bad, or if you just want different mods other than yourself, too bad because it needs to be in the rules.
2. You don't have any authority. And I don't just mean you don't have authority to organize the vote, I mean you don't even have the authority to vote or have a meaningful opinion on this subject. Where are you guaranteed that? What right do you think you have to try and change the structure of a website that you don't run? This would be like me going out into the streets and holding a presidential election, and acting like the winner will be our next president. This is how foolish this poll is.
3. The mods on this site don't really do anything. The rules are so ridiculously short and lenient that they don't have much to enforce. All the things you suggest (like your list of qualifications), as well as your attitude towards what mods should do, is a huge overreach of power. The role is defined by the forum rules, not by your ideology.
4. You actually tried to discredit what I'm earlier by saying that "I'm losing votes by getting frustrated." Obviously I don't want anyone's vote since I told everyone not to vote for me and refused your vote after you gave me it. Why don't I want to win, you might ask? Well maybe because your election is pointless and the position of moderator doesn't really mean anything. It's just someone who enforces the rules, which are almost impossible to break. That doesn't really imply any power for the winner, just a title that you so obviously covet for no other reason but your out-of-control ego.
This post was a little long, so I want to re-iterate the key point: without a way of adding mods written into the rules, why would you assume that it is a thing that will just happen? More importantly, why would it be via election and not appointment by Panther? There is no way you can answer this question. You've already just ignored it twice and said "you MAY be right, but maybe I'll swoop in and become a mod lulz." I don't expect a real answer. I'm posting this to just try and show people how silly this thread is.
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Post by Juggs on Feb 3, 2015 10:56:30 GMT -5
Careful boy, or I'll starting editing your posts again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 13:15:32 GMT -5
Im surpised that this thread hasnt been deleted yet.
My Thoughts.,..
In the end this is really Panther's forum. He created it,and I guess he could delete it if he wanted to.
But it pains me to say this....Panther being the admin and Plax being one of the mods,and both of them hardly being here does not work for me.
If they are going to hold those titles,they need to be here.
I have a notion on why Plax isnt though,and that could very well be my fault.
But if this is going to be the case,and we are going to have a forum...then I think beast is justified in making this thread.
Everyone knows I have no issue with MO at all. But I just dont think hes a fair mod. Other than that me and MO get along fine.
So heres where we stand...
Mo and Jancey are the 2 active mods. Thats it. And Im starting to see both of them on rare occasions too.
I think there is room for 2 more mods myself,including MO and Jancey.
As far as me being a mod...I would be a fair mod,and most likely would let alot of shit go,and you would never see me ban ANYONE.
But Im like Bev....Im not pining to be one, but would if asked or needed.
But there are some people who I think would make great mods. Steeler Jeff and Ace.
As far as someone modifying Eddie's post...Everyone here knows what I think of that. Its bullshit. Just dont do it. If theres a mod doing that,then they dont need to be mods.
Last but not least....
I havent been the most ideal poster here,and I have had my run ins with various people. But I will say this til the end of time. We are not going to all get along all the time. We are like family here and I think all of us are good people here too,like Bev said. We all gonna have our days. We just need to be more tolerant of each other and I for one have been working on that part of me for a while now. I dont plan on getting into any arguments with anyone here,although that may happen,but I will find every reason not to before it does,if possible.
I told my wife before not to take life so seriously one day and she told me to take my own advice. And shes right.
So I will tell one person the same thing here,because he once told me the same exact thing. You know who you are.
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Post by Divebitch on Feb 3, 2015 15:41:10 GMT -5
3. The mods on this site don't really do anything. The rules are so ridiculously short and lenient that they don't have much to enforce. All the things you suggest (like your list of qualifications), as well as your attitude towards what mods should do, is a huge overreach of power. The role is defined by the forum rules, not by your ideology. Not what I've been informed of, that one was editing Eddie's posts, which is worse than deleting. Careful boy, or I'll starting editing your posts again. So that was a joke? IDK what to believe anymore. That's why I don't take some rants at face value. Im surpised that this thread hasnt been deleted yet. My Thoughts.,.. In the end this is really Panther's forum. He created it,and I guess he could delete it if he wanted to. But it pains me to say this....Panther being the admin and Plax being one of the mods,and both of them hardly being here does not work for me. If they are going to hold those titles,they need to be here. I have a notion on why Plax isnt though, and that could very well be my fault.But if this is going to be the case,and we are going to have a forum...then I think beast is justified in making this thread. Everyone knows I have no issue with MO at all. But I just dont think hes a fair mod. Other than that me and MO get along fine. So heres where we stand... Mo and Jancey are the 2 active mods. Thats it. And Im starting to see both of them on rare occasions too. I think there is room for 2 more mods myself,including MO and Jancey. As far as me being a mod...I would be a fair mod,and most likely would let alot of shit go,and you would never see me ban ANYONE. But Im like Bev....Im not pining to be one, but would if asked or needed. But there are some people who I think would make great mods. Steeler Jeff and Ace. As far as someone modifying Eddie's post...Everyone here knows what I think of that. Its bullshit. Just dont do it. If theres a mod doing that,then they dont need to be mods.Last but not least.... I havent been the most ideal poster here,and I have had my run ins with various people. But I will say this til the end of time. We are not going to all get along all the time. We are like family here and I think all of us are good people here too,like Bev said. We all gonna have our days. We just need to be more tolerant of each other and I for one have been working on that part of me for a while now. I dont plan on getting into any arguments with anyone here,although that may happen,but I will find every reason not to before it does,if possible. I told my wife before not to take life so seriously one day and she told me to take my own advice. And shes right.So I will tell one person the same thing here,because he once told me the same exact thing. You know who you are. Agree, there is never an excuse for any mod to 'modify' someone's post. I know 'mod' sounds like 'modify', but it's 'moderator', not the same thing. It's crap, and any mod who does this should be banned, much less stripped of all powers, IMO. Hey, me you and Craig are the 3 most playful people I can think of here. When you think of not taking life too seriously you think of youth, but it's usually the opposite. And by 'playful', I don't mean finding 'hahas' on youtube. Plax all but disappeared from my league too. Cuz of my input here? Meh, maybe not just college per se, but all that goes along with it, who knows. New interests, priorities change quickly, been there. But even if we don't need more than 2 mods (and IDT we do), a nod should be given to a Graveyarder. Panther
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