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Post by Divebitch on Oct 22, 2014 9:01:27 GMT -5
nateball89 nflfootball11 - Dixon and others seem to think he's next in line for lead back, as he's been #3 (I think) on the depth chart and getting sporadic work. Bills gave up a 4th round pick for Bryce Brown, and instantly relegated him to NO field duty at all (practice squad?). Yet the coaches are now talking him up as super talented, consensus is he's the better back, and an every down one. So my question is... WTF? That, and what do you think will happen? Still up in the air, hedging their bets, play it by ear, let them duke it out on the field? Almost put this in the fantasy section, cuz looking at the WW pickups in all my leagues this morning, you can tell a lot of people are very perplexed.
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Post by Juggs on Oct 22, 2014 14:23:14 GMT -5
I suspect it's dixon. The Bills wouldn't have had him at #3 if he was going to get leapfrogged by Brown now.
But do you really want to start any RB#3 against the Jets?
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Post by Jancey on Oct 22, 2014 14:43:28 GMT -5
I suspect it's dixon. The Bills wouldn't have had him at #3 if he was going to get leapfrogged by Brown now. But do you really want to start any RB#3 against the Jets? Dixon has never been more than a short yardage specialist..he'll pick up the tough yards but is no threat to break any long runs. Dixon has been the #3 RB because of his special teams value. If Brown was active, they would have had no use for him as Spiller and FJax were their 2 runners. Dixon has been #3 because of his special teams value, nothing more. I would suspect they'll go committee and whoever runs better will get more carries, and that is more than likely going to be Brown. The Bills didn't spend a 4th round pick on Brown for nothing. Fjax is getting older and Spiller is a FA next year. I'm not a Bills fan, dive, but Brown is the better FF add. Neither is worth the risk of starting this week, especially against the Jets. I own Brown in one league, but I'm not considering starting him. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out. |
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Post by nateball89 on Oct 22, 2014 15:29:52 GMT -5
The Bills running back situation has been frustrating this season to say the least. Doug Marrone's specialty is supposed to be offense. More specifically, offensive line. His offensive line from last year was found wanting. His offensive line this year is flat out terrible. Spiller was the number one back this year before he broke his collar bone. A lot of Bills fans were upset with Spiller for always trying to bounce it outside or running backwards or sideways and taking negative yardage instead of just hitting the hole. This was NOT Spiller's fault, because the offensive line simply wasn't creating any holes. Jackson and Dixon have looked more aware and willing to just lower their heads and take what's there, even if it's just a 1 or 2 yard gain, because both Jackson and Dixon are power backs. To answer your question Divebitch, the reason the Bills haven't activated Bryce Brown until this point is because of the benchmarks involved in the trade for him. They traded a conditional fourth round pick for him. If Brown reached certain milestones, the conditional pick would have been better for the Eagles. The less he played, the less chance he had of reaching those milestones...which is kind of idiotic if you think about it - why trade for a guy just to sit him? This is just speculation on my part, but I also think the Bills traded for Brown because the Bills are very aware of Spiller and Jackson's proneness to injury. Neither are the most durable backs in the league - whether it be serious injuries or just minor ones, they've both battled injuries in the past, and I think the Bills wanted to bring in Dixon and Brown as insurance policies. To answer your question further - Dixon will start, and Brown will be his backup. The Jets have a nasty defensive line, and Dixon is more of a bruiser, while Brown is more a "make you miss" type back. If the Bills can pound Dixon down their throats, they can then use Brown to make them miss. |
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Post by Divebitch on Oct 22, 2014 15:49:52 GMT -5
I suspect it's dixon. The Bills wouldn't have had him at #3 if he was going to get leapfrogged by Brown now. But do you really want to start any RB#3 against the Jets? Dixon has never been more than a short yardage specialist..he'll pick up the tough yards but is no threat to break any long runs. Dixon has been the #3 RB because of his special teams value. If Brown was active, they would have had no use for him as Spiller and FJax were their 2 runners. Dixon has been #3 because of his special teams value, nothing more. I would suspect they'll go committee and whoever runs better will get more carries, and that is more than likely going to be Brown. The Bills didn't spend a 4th round pick on Brown for nothing. Fjax is getting older and Spiller is a FA next year. I'm not a Bills fan, dive, but Brown is the better FF add. Neither is worth the risk of starting this week, especially against the Jets. I own Brown in one league, but I'm not considering starting him. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out. - Not this week. They're both expected to be out nearly the whole season. F-Jax maybe a month, long time in fantasy-land. You think he wouldn't be leapfrogged, but the HC (  ) was singing Bryce's praises, and most people are going after him probably based on that - cuz you can easily see he has NO stats this year. Yeah Jancey, read about all that stuff. So you can't keep more than 3 RBs on the active roster (or that all they like to keep really)?? So I get it now with the special teams, it's making more sense. They didn't think they'd lose F-Jax and Spiller at once. So it'll probably be Bryce. Oh, I won't be starting either of them. This whole mess made me back off from either one. My first choice off the WW was Denard Robinson, who IMO had more long-term upside than any RB out there. The WW is a pretty amusing thing sometimes. You try to predict how it will go. Thanks, guys!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:04:10 GMT -5
Divebitch I thought Jackson was only going to miss one or two weeks. So I was thinking when he comes back Dixon and Bryce will take a back seat. Also Robinson will probably take a back seat when Gerhart comes back soon. So I took McKinnon due to the fact he has taken over the lead roll and Adrian Beatason will not be back any time soon since his court date is in December. I didn't want to get caught up with a RB that will not be first string in a week or two. Heehee I win. (Dive gave me chit for taking McKinnon over the others in one of our leagues)
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Post by Divebitch on Oct 22, 2014 17:52:19 GMT -5
The Bills running back situation has been frustrating this season to say the least. Doug Marrone's specialty is supposed to be offense. More specifically, offensive line. His offensive line from last year was found wanting. His offensive line this year is flat out terrible. Spiller was the number one back this year before he broke his collar bone. A lot of Bills fans were upset with Spiller for always trying to bounce it outside or running backwards or sideways and taking negative yardage instead of just hitting the hole. This was NOT Spiller's fault, because the offensive line simply wasn't creating any holes. Jackson and Dixon have looked more aware and willing to just lower their heads and take what's there, even if it's just a 1 or 2 yard gain, because both Jackson and Dixon are power backs. To answer your question Divebitch, the reason the Bills haven't activated Bryce Brown until this point is because of the benchmarks involved in the trade for him. They traded a conditional fourth round pick for him. If Brown reached certain milestones, the conditional pick would have been better for the Eagles. The less he played, the less chance he had of reaching those milestones...which is kind of idiotic if you think about it - why trade for a guy just to sit him? This is just speculation on my part, but I also think the Bills traded for Brown because the Bills are very aware of Spiller and Jackson's proneness to injury. Neither are the most durable backs in the league - whether it be serious injuries or just minor ones, they've both battled injuries in the past, and I think the Bills wanted to bring in Dixon and Brown as insurance policies. To answer your question further - Dixon will start, and Brown will be his backup. The Jets have a nasty defensive line, and Dixon is more of a bruiser, while Brown is more a "make you miss" type back. If the Bills can pound Dixon down their throats, they can then use Brown to make them miss. Well,I've had F-Jax on a team or 2 for 2 years, and he's always outdone Spiller. They've been a revolving door of injuries though, mostly Spiller. A huge fan of F-Jax, and yes, a power back, but great receiving, a true every down back, just not the quickest/twitchiest guy. The milestone thing sounds bizarre. I'm probably not understanding it right. Like they pay less if they get zero production from him?!?! lol Did they just sit him? IDK, but that's why I tagged you of course, you'd have the dirty lowdown on the deal. Dixon will start - I'm guessing not for long. Anyway, as I said above, steered clear of this situation on the waiver wire. But noticed some were drafting one or the other first (usually Bryce). One guy added the both of them. But I knew others had to be as confused as I was, but used their WW priorities anyway on a hunch. haha Thanks for the reply! |
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Post by Divebitch on Oct 22, 2014 18:14:04 GMT -5
Divebitch I thought Jackson was only going to miss one or two weeks. So I was thinking when he comes back Dixon and Bryce will take a back seat. Also Robinson will probably take a back seat when Gerhart comes back soon. So I took McKinnon due to the fact he has taken over the lead roll and Adrian Beatason will not be back any time soon since his court date is in December. I didn't want to get caught up with a RB that will not be first string in a week or two. Heehee I win. (Dive gave me chit for taking McKinnon over the others in one of our leagues) Beatason, that's good!! I was NOT giving you shit about McKinnon. Just said he was not on my radar and you probably didn't have to submit a claim for him. Checked my other leagues, and was correct, although 1 guy had him already. Jags are probably more impatient with Gerhardt than me. He's like the poor man's Asiata, but whiter. Robinson is said to have a chance at taking over. They said that about Sankey too, who I wasted a 4th on, about to drop his ass. I think F-Jax is expected to be out 3-4 weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 18:18:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anyone would have taken McKinnon or not. But I couldn't risk not getting the RB I wanted. I looked at all of them and Tre would have been the only other one. I like Bryce a lot last time he played. I remember getting him and being SUPER HAPPY. But this scenario didn't fit for me this week.
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Post by gobolts25 on Oct 22, 2014 19:06:29 GMT -5
Divebitch I thought Jackson was only going to miss one or two weeks. So I was thinking when he comes back Dixon and Bryce will take a back seat. Also Robinson will probably take a back seat when Gerhart comes back soon. So I took McKinnon due to the fact he has taken over the lead roll and Adrian Beatason will not be back any time soon since his court date is in December. I didn't want to get caught up with a RB that will not be first string in a week or two. Heehee I win. (Dive gave me chit for taking McKinnon over the others in one of our leagues) I grabbed McKinnon when I heard he was leapfrogging Asiata as the starter, meaning greater trust and presumably more work (at least somewhat). He didn't do too badly last week, either. Still, he's nothing but a bye-week or injury filler for me at this point, not that it matters much in the league of record... As for the Bills, Freddie Jax is the only one I would've trusted, but that's kind of out the window right now... |
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) was singing Bryce's praises, and most people are going after him probably based on that - cuz you can easily see he has NO stats this year.
