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Post by Morkim on Feb 13, 2014 22:32:52 GMT -5
Hockey Team USA ladies looked good last night against Finland. But i dont real;y know how good Finland is Canada and USA absolutely dominate womens hockey. Both teams usually crush everyone then meet in the finals for the only good game you will see all tourney. I really hope some other womens teams actually get good, cause even though I like Canada getting a gold or silver every olympics its damn boring to win every time. I watch 2 hockey games every 4 years, both Canada/USA
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Post by Divebitch on Feb 14, 2014 13:36:18 GMT -5
but if you appreciate games with strategy involved, curling can be pretty interesting to watch. PS. I grew up in a family where both of my parents curled and my dad curled pretty competitively for a while. I've spent a lot of time at curling rinks throughout my life. So if you are watching curling and don't understand why they are doing something, ask me and I can clarify. (So can jin... but I'm older, so I probably know more). Okay, I was watching curling live, like 6:30 - 7:30 AM. Norway and Canada, probably a premiere matchup right?. The more I watched, the more confused I was. Apparently the agenda is not to get your rock in the middle (??). The Norwegians shot like 2 in a row (?) with no sweeping (is that what that is? hehe) satisfied to leave the rocks outside the ...house ( ). Hard to tell how many rocks each team had to work with. Seems when some were knocked out, they'd throw them all out. I don't expect you to explain all the rules, would be ridiculous, I could probably find them anywhere. But it did look interesting, especially in that sweeping could change the speed and direction ( ) of the rock. The Norwegians were wearing some pretty wild, very colorful floral pants. Hmmmm...wonder if seeing them without warning would be a surprise for some. Wasn't gonna tell you who won! lol Men's figure skating, long program for the medals...dreadful, just dreadful.
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 14, 2014 14:24:21 GMT -5
but if you appreciate games with strategy involved, curling can be pretty interesting to watch. PS. I grew up in a family where both of my parents curled and my dad curled pretty competitively for a while. I've spent a lot of time at curling rinks throughout my life. So if you are watching curling and don't understand why they are doing something, ask me and I can clarify. (So can jin... but I'm older, so I probably know more). Okay, I was watching curling live, like 6:30 - 7:30 AM. Norway and Canada, probably a premiere matchup right?. The more I watched, the more confused I was. Apparently the agenda is not to get your rock in the middle (??). The Norwegians shot like 2 in a row (?) with no sweeping (is that what that is? hehe) satisfied to leave the rocks outside the ...house ( ). Hard to tell how many rocks each team had to work with. Seems when some were knocked out, they'd throw them all out. I don't expect you to explain all the rules, would be ridiculous, I could probably find them anywhere. But it did look interesting, especially in that sweeping could change the speed and direction ( ) of the rock. The Norwegians were wearing some pretty wild, very colorful floral pants. Hmmmm...wonder if seeing them without warning would be a surprise for some. Wasn't gonna tell you who won! lol Men's figure skating, long program for the medals...dreadful, just dreadful. For curling, it isn't just about getting the rock to the center. Scoring is based on the amount of rocks you have in the rings that are closer than any of the opponents rocks to the center after all rocks are thrown in an end. So if you had 5 rocks in the house (that is the name for the rings) and your opponent had two, only whoever is closest to the center scores points. And if you had four closer to the center than any of the other team's, you would score four points. There is a lot more strategy to the game than just throwing it at the center though. You can't take out an opponent's rock for the first four shots of any end if they are in front of the house, so teams generally try to set up guards to start the end. Then they can try coming around the guards later to try and set up bigger ends. If teams just threw it to the center every time, the other team would just take your rock out and it would be hard to score more than one point in any end. And the sweeping does make a big difference. The ice is pebbled and that allows the rocks to slide a certain way and to curl. The friction caused by sweeping alters the pebbles so the rock will travel faster and curl less. So the Skip and the one shooting the rock are always watching the line of the rock, while the sweepers gauge the weight of the rock and between them they shout and yell to determine whether it needs to be swept and to what extent. I know the outcome of the game, but thanks for being respectful and not giving away the winner! And Norway has been doing that since the last olympics. They have become the team of wild and crazy pants.
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Post by Jindred on Feb 14, 2014 14:27:49 GMT -5
but if you appreciate games with strategy involved, curling can be pretty interesting to watch. PS. I grew up in a family where both of my parents curled and my dad curled pretty competitively for a while. I've spent a lot of time at curling rinks throughout my life. So if you are watching curling and don't understand why they are doing something, ask me and I can clarify. (So can jin... but I'm older, so I probably know more). Okay, I was watching curling live, like 6:30 - 7:30 AM. Norway and Canada, probably a premiere matchup right?. The more I watched, the more confused I was. Apparently the agenda is not to get your rock in the middle (??). The Norwegians shot like 2 in a row (?) with no sweeping (is that what that is? hehe) satisfied to leave the rocks outside the ...house ( ). Hard to tell how many rocks each team had to work with. Seems when some were knocked out, they'd throw them all out. I don't expect you to explain all the rules, would be ridiculous, I could probably find them anywhere. But it did look interesting, especially in that sweeping could change the speed and direction ( ) of the rock. The Norwegians were wearing some pretty wild, very colorful floral pants. Hmmmm...wonder if seeing them without warning would be a surprise for some. Wasn't gonna tell you who won! lol Men's figure skating, long program for the medals...dreadful, just dreadful. Sweeping helps to keep the rock from curling and can drag the rock further. If you notice in curling every time a rock is released it is either spinning clockwise or counter-clockwise. This will cause the rock to "curl" meaning that is moves the direction it is spinning slightly, sometimes more sometimes less based on the ice conditions. The reason the rock "curls" is that before the game the ice maker sprays the ice down with droplets of water which creates little bumps called "pebble". This pebble causes the rock to grab slightly as it rotates causing it to move slightly in the direction the spin dictates. Sweeping has 3 purposes. One to keep any debris from catching under the rock which will cause the rock to either stop or veer off course. Two to keep the rock going straighter, this happens because when you sweep the ice it creates heat and causes the ice to melt slightly and form a very thin layer of water of on the ice (which freezes again after you stop) causing the rock to not catch the pebble as much and go straighter. Three is to drag the rock further, same concept as getting the rock to go straight, as it will go further on the thin layer of water as there is less friction to slow it down. As far as leaving rocks outside the rings, the point of that is to set up guards. You want those rocks out front so you can hide rocks in behind them after and make them harder to take out. The goal is to get as many rocks as close to the "button" (the middle of the rings) as possible in an end. If you leave the rocks wide open the other team will just hit them out of the rings and it becomes tough to score more than one point, and scoring 1 point in an end isn't very helpful because its very easy for the other team to match that in the next end so the goal is always to get more than 1 point in an end if you are throwing last. Where as the team who doesn't throw last wants to hold the other side to 1. I hope that made some sort of sense! If it didn't feel free to ask more questions.
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Post by Jindred on Feb 14, 2014 14:28:53 GMT -5
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 14, 2014 14:32:44 GMT -5
That's teamwork brah.
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Post by Divebitch on Feb 14, 2014 15:31:15 GMT -5
Hard to tell how many rocks each team had to work with. Seems when some were knocked out, they'd throw them all out. I don't expect you to explain all the rules, would be ridiculous, The Norwegians were wearing some pretty wild, very colorful floral pants. Hmmmm...wonder if seeing them without warning would be a surprise for some. Wasn't gonna tell you who won! lol For curling, it isn't just about getting the rock to the center. Scoring is based on the amount of rocks you have in the rings that are closer than any of the opponents rocks to the center after all rocks are thrown in an end. So if you had 5 rocks in the house (that is the name for the rings) and your opponent had two, only whoever is closest to the center scores points. And if you had four closer to the center than any of the other team's, you would score four points. There is a lot more strategy to the game than just throwing it at the center though. You can't take out an opponent's rock for the first four shots of any end if they are in front of the house, so teams generally try to set up guards to start the end. Then they can try coming around the guards later to try and set up bigger ends. If teams just threw it to the center every time, the other team would just take your rock out and it would be hard to score more than one point in any end. I know the outcome of the game, but thanks for being respectful and not giving away the winner! And Norway has been doing that since the last olympics. They have become the team of wild and crazy pants. Confusing chit for sure. lol IDK how many shots they actually had apiece. IDK it was ever mentioned until their last shot maybe. Well, I didn't think it would be disrespectful - it was a spoiler for crap sakes lol - but some people just can't resist. A spoiler is like torture. lol Yeah, those pants, I liked them a lot, but if you haven't seen them yet, you will be...IDK (just a little unexpected from a team vs. something like figure skating). lol As far as leaving rocks outside the rings, the point of that is to set up guards. You want those rocks out front so you can hide rocks in behind them after and make them harder to take out. The goal is to get as many rocks as close to the "button" (the middle of the rings) as possible in an end. If you leave the rocks wide open the other team will just hit them out of the rings and it becomes tough to score more than one point, and scoring 1 point in an end isn't very helpful because its very easy for the other team to match that in the next end so the goal is always to get more than 1 point in an end if you are throwing last. Where as the team who doesn't throw last wants to hold the other side to 1. I hope that made some sort of sense! If it didn't feel free to ask more questions. Well, it looked like the Norwegians early in one round were perfectly happy to shoot 2 rocks outside the house (left of the screen), and not far from each other. Seemed like a total waste, can't imagine what purpose it served. But didn't hear any announcers confused, so surely they had a reason. But you say "If you leave the rocks wide open the other team will just hit them out of the rings and it becomes tough to score more than one point". Why would that be true? If the opponent can't hit them again, why would you care? I'm obviously missing something/a lot lol. "very easy for the other team to match that in the next end so the goal is always to get more than 1 point in an end" - guess there is also a diff meaning to "end". I appreciate the rest of your reply I deleted (for the sake of clarity and focus). Thanks!!! What I deleted made sense to me. lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 16:35:58 GMT -5
Ever play shuffleboard Dive? Curling sounds like a mixture of shuffleboard and horse shoes. And it has to be one the funniest sports I've seen. I like when they frantically sweep. I'm like HUH is that doing anything?
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 14, 2014 16:40:48 GMT -5
Ever play shuffleboard Dive? Curling sounds like a mixture of shuffleboard and horse shoes. And it has to be one the funniest sports I've seen. I like when they frantically sweep. I'm like HUH is that doing anything? As I mentioned earlier, Craig... Back off my sport! (Apparently the Angry Mob smiley isn't showing.... this is not a serious comment!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 16:43:38 GMT -5
Hey I like to watch your sport. It just sometimes looks funny to me. Meant no disrespect.
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