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Post by mitch9234 on Jan 27, 2014 1:28:02 GMT -5
saskabronco what about not hating, but fearing a certain race? I fear black people more than white people because of their angry looks (at least where I live) and always look to start a fight. There was this time that I was on the street, and a black guy told me to fuck off because I looked at his girlfriend. But, I don't hate them, other than this aforementioned man. I just fear them. Do you fear all black people? What about a black baby or a crippled old black man? Are there white people you fear equally? What if there was a big angry white guy looking to start a fight? Painting the entire black population with one brush does not work. Your experience might suggest that certain situations call for you to be more on edge around certain black people, and that is logical. But to say that you fear black people would be ignorant because in reality you don't fear all black people, only certain ones in certain situations. Does that make sense? It was what I said. These black people I usually see seem to angry looks and are always looking to start a fight. So I rubbed the wrong way. I don't fear ALL black people, only those I mentioned. My mother was probably a catalyst of that, telling me that this "person" was this or that. I've seen a crazy black man, a black man that would hit people out of nowhere, and others. I don't know if you had that experience, it doesn't seem so. But based on recent history on me, I fear some black people most.
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Post by mitch9234 on Jan 27, 2014 1:31:19 GMT -5
I would agree in that judging an entire race based off of a negative (or positive) experience is ignorant. Unfortunately, it happens way too much in today's society. But I don't judge them. I have black friends too. My best friend in school is black. I live near a slum that mostly black people live in it, and people say it is a dangerous place at times.
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Post by plax on Jan 27, 2014 1:33:40 GMT -5
I do think it is a bit justified to be more wary of certain races for past experiences, however.
I mean, if I am walking down the street and I see one side of the street with white folks and the other side with black folks, I would definitely be more inclined, as a white man myself, to go towards the white folk side of the street. Experiences with both races are what led me to that decision.
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Post by plax on Jan 27, 2014 1:35:25 GMT -5
I would agree in that judging an entire race based off of a negative (or positive) experience is ignorant. Unfortunately, it happens way too much in today's society. But I don't judge them. I have black friends too. My best friend in school is black. I live near a slum that mostly black people live in it, and people say it is a dangerous place at times. oh, I hear ya man. My post was more of a general post and not necessarily towards your personal experiences. ***I promised myself I wouldn't get caught up in this thread. lol oh well***
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Post by saskabronco on Jan 27, 2014 1:37:50 GMT -5
Do you fear all black people? What about a black baby or a crippled old black man? Are there white people you fear equally? What if there was a big angry white guy looking to start a fight? Painting the entire black population with one brush does not work. Your experience might suggest that certain situations call for you to be more on edge around certain black people, and that is logical. But to say that you fear black people would be ignorant because in reality you don't fear all black people, only certain ones in certain situations. Does that make sense? It was what I said. These black people I usually see seem to angry looks and are always looking to start a fight. So I rubbed the wrong way. I don't fear ALL black people, only those I mentioned. My mother was probably a catalyst of that, telling me that this "person" was this or that. I've seen a crazy black man, a black man that would hit people out of nowhere, and others. I don't know if you had that experience, it doesn't seem so. But based on recent history on me, I fear some black people most. Where I grew up and still live, Native Americans are treated similarly to the way many blacks are treated in the USA. There are ghetto-type areas here and if I'm walking down the street and see a group of natives all dressed like gangsters, I will be more wary of them. But having said that, it's not the race that I am wary of, it's the image. If I saw a group of white guys or black guys all dressed like gangsters, I would be as wary of them as I was with the natives. In my experiences, race isn't what defines how they are acting, it is the desire to be seen as a tough thug that defines it. That isn't true for every guy dressed like a thug, but it would be logical to assume that if he dresses and acts a certain way, that he should be treated in accordance to that. Clothing and actions are within a person's control, but the race they were born into is not.
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Post by saskabronco on Jan 27, 2014 1:40:16 GMT -5
I do think it is a bit justified to be more wary of certain races for past experiences, however. I mean, if I am walking down the street and I see one side of the street with white folks and the other side with black folks, I would definitely be more inclined, as a white man myself, to go towards the white folk side of the street. Experiences with both races are what led me to that decision. Just to play the devil's advocate, what if all the white guys had guns at their hips and were wearing gang colours, and the black guys across the street were wearing sweater vests and playing chess? What defines your decision more, their race or their actions?
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Post by plax on Jan 27, 2014 1:42:54 GMT -5
I do think it is a bit justified to be more wary of certain races for past experiences, however. I mean, if I am walking down the street and I see one side of the street with white folks and the other side with black folks, I would definitely be more inclined, as a white man myself, to go towards the white folk side of the street. Experiences with both races are what led me to that decision. Just to play the devil's advocate, what if all the white guys had guns at their hips and were wearing gang colours, and the black guys across the street were wearing sweater vests and playing chess? What defines your decision more, their race or their actions? Just read your post above and you make a good point. For the sake of my argument, assume they are dressed the same. I would make the choice I said. Clearly the image DOES impact the decision to do certain things. Your example concerning the whites looking like gangsters and the blacks dressed in sweaters, the decision and thought process changes entirely. That is why I drive car I guess. Cruise through the middle lol.
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Post by mitch9234 on Jan 27, 2014 1:49:21 GMT -5
It was what I said. These black people I usually see seem to angry looks and are always looking to start a fight. So I rubbed the wrong way. I don't fear ALL black people, only those I mentioned. My mother was probably a catalyst of that, telling me that this "person" was this or that. I've seen a crazy black man, a black man that would hit people out of nowhere, and others. I don't know if you had that experience, it doesn't seem so. But based on recent history on me, I fear some black people most. Where I grew up and still live, Native Americans are treated similarly to the way many blacks are treated in the USA. There are ghetto-type areas here and if I'm walking down the street and see a group of natives all dressed like gangsters, I will be more wary of them. But having said that, it's not the race that I am wary of, it's the image. If I saw a group of white guys or black guys all dressed like gangsters, I would be as wary of them as I was with the natives. In my experiences, race isn't what defines how they are acting, it is the desire to be seen as a tough thug that defines it. That isn't true for every guy dressed like a thug, but it would be logical to assume that if he dresses and acts a certain way, that he should be treated in accordance to that. Clothing and actions are within a person's control, but the race they were born into is not. But for somewhat reason I usually see black people attached to the hate on their faces, and sincerely I don't understand why. When you live and feel it, you would understand what I'm saying better. I don't fear their color, but what's usually WITH them.
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Post by saskabronco on Jan 27, 2014 1:57:08 GMT -5
Where I grew up and still live, Native Americans are treated similarly to the way many blacks are treated in the USA. There are ghetto-type areas here and if I'm walking down the street and see a group of natives all dressed like gangsters, I will be more wary of them. But having said that, it's not the race that I am wary of, it's the image. If I saw a group of white guys or black guys all dressed like gangsters, I would be as wary of them as I was with the natives. In my experiences, race isn't what defines how they are acting, it is the desire to be seen as a tough thug that defines it. That isn't true for every guy dressed like a thug, but it would be logical to assume that if he dresses and acts a certain way, that he should be treated in accordance to that. Clothing and actions are within a person's control, but the race they were born into is not. But for somewhat reason I usually see black people attached to the hate on their faces, and sincerely I don't understand why. When you live and feel it, you would understand what I'm saying better. I don't fear their color, but what's usually WITH them. I think I do understand you quite well. And please don't assume I am judging you at all. Honestly there probably is a trend where more often than not, the stereotype rings true. That is definitely the case here. Natives are often viewed as drunks and drug addicts here, and there are many who fit that bill. Not all do, but many think they have to meet the expectations society has placed on them. I have talked to others who literally believe that alcoholism is part of their culture. I'm sure the same can be said for the angry black men in your home town. Many of them probably feel a need to act that way because it is expected of them or because they need to do it to survive. My point was just to say that to hate an entire race because of a limited experience is ignorant. But to be mindful of the reality that certain groups in certain areas have a tendency for violence, well that is logical and necessary for your own survival.
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Post by rey713 on Jan 27, 2014 9:38:23 GMT -5
saskabroncoWhat if I just hate Asians in general, not because of a particular experience with a select few? Does that make me ignorant? I think it would just make me racist, by definition.
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