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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Dec 9, 2013 0:48:33 GMT -5
And MO...I think Boyd goes higher than you predict. Just based on what his talent level and upside are.
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Post by cityofchamps on Dec 9, 2013 12:37:00 GMT -5
What is wrong with Alex Smith? Alex Smith is only successful because of the system the Chiefs have, and the way Reid uses him. McCarron I think could only be successful in a similar situation. He was successful in San Francisco before he got hurt and Kaepernick exploded to take his job away.
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Post by Jancey on Dec 9, 2013 15:12:03 GMT -5
Alex Smith is only successful because of the system the Chiefs have, and the way Reid uses him. McCarron I think could only be successful in a similar situation. He was successful in San Francisco before he got hurt and Kaepernick exploded to take his job away. He was decent, and San Fran had a similar system to what KC has. Great RB, OLine, and defense to carry him. Vernon Davis and Crabtree to catch the ball too.
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Post by 101mitch on Dec 9, 2013 16:36:40 GMT -5
He was successful in San Francisco before he got hurt and Kaepernick exploded to take his job away. He was decent, and San Fran had a similar system to what KC has. Great RB, OLine, and defense to carry him. Vernon Davis and Crabtree to catch the ball too. So in your eyes Alex Smith = Mccarron? Newsflash Smith is 10-3. If McCarron has the potential to lead a team to 10-3 I think that is pretty good.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Dec 10, 2013 15:16:48 GMT -5
General thoughts.... - Had the first chance to watch Arizona's RB Ka'deem Carey this past Saturday.. Stud. Will be a good pro. - I also think it's insane that Louchiez Purifoy is a projected first rounder, and many believe he isn't even the best CB on UF. Tells you how stacked their defense is. (For those who are wondering, true freshman (Yes, freshman) CB Vernon Hargreaves III has already jumped him as UF's #1 CB.. And that's not a slight to Purifoy, VH3 is just that good.) - I really think Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix is overrated. He's good, but no way is he top 10 good like people are saying. - Jeremy Gallon should be drafted. People are overlooking his skills because the QB throwing him the ball isn't performing well. Literally, Gallon's only knock is size. He'd be a first rounder if he was 6'0 or taller. Do you think Taylor Lewan can succeed as a LT in a zone scheme? Everything I have heard so far seems like that would be far from the case. I know a lot of mock draft so far have the Steelers picking him... And I know he plays for one of Michigan's rivals but what's your opinion on Darqueze Dennard? Do you think he would be a good fit on the Steelers D? Tackling is a top priority and des he have any experience in zone?
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Dec 10, 2013 15:32:52 GMT -5
A few quick questions.
Mike Evans may run an unspectacular 40 time, and over all likely won't perform well in timed drills. Do you think that and the combination of QB and linemen needy teams, combined with other WRs likely having blazing times cause him to drop in the draft? and how far?
Cyrus Kouandjio has tons of potential. But how raw is he and how long of a project could he possibly be? Could he start from day one or does he benefit a great deal by playing for Alabama?
Is Taylor Lewan a power/man scheme only LT?
What's Stephon Tuitt potential in a 3-4? I've heard a lot of good things about him and RaShede Hageman, who I also expect to jump up into the 1st round a good bit after the combine.
How good is Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Darqueze Dennard, and Justin Gilbert? Can they tackle? Any experience in zone?
After Watkins, and Evans, who are the next best group of WRs and how big is the gap between the top two?
Why is Austin Seferian-Jenkins getting no love? He's the only TE that can block reliably, he has good hands, is huge, and can play receiver like a basketball player. Do you expect him to rise?
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Post by MarchingOn on Dec 10, 2013 16:05:51 GMT -5
General thoughts.... - Had the first chance to watch Arizona's RB Ka'deem Carey this past Saturday.. Stud. Will be a good pro. - I also think it's insane that Louchiez Purifoy is a projected first rounder, and many believe he isn't even the best CB on UF. Tells you how stacked their defense is. (For those who are wondering, true freshman (Yes, freshman) CB Vernon Hargreaves III has already jumped him as UF's #1 CB.. And that's not a slight to Purifoy, VH3 is just that good.) - I really think Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix is overrated. He's good, but no way is he top 10 good like people are saying. - Jeremy Gallon should be drafted. People are overlooking his skills because the QB throwing him the ball isn't performing well. Literally, Gallon's only knock is size. He'd be a first rounder if he was 6'0 or taller. Do you think Taylor Lewan can succeed as a LT in a zone scheme? Everything I have heard so far seems like that would be far from the case. I know a lot of mock draft so far have the Steelers picking him... And I know he plays for one of Michigan's rivals but what's your opinion on Darqueze Dennard? Do you think he would be a good fit on the Steelers D? Tackling is a top priority and des he have any experience in zone? I do. Quick feet and athleticism (which are necessary for a zone scheme) are arguably Lewan's biggest strengths. I honestly think he could play both ways (as a zone blocker, and as a road-grader) but he might actually be better suited for zone blocking imo. I've talked with Plax about Dennard before, and we're both in agreement that he's a top 2 CB at WORST. (Ekpre-Olomu from Oregon being the other CB) From the things I've read, Ekpre-Olomu is better at zone coverage while Dennard is much better in man, but I wouldn't think either one of them is bad in the other coverages either.. Yeah, Dennard is super physical and aggressive. He can jam WRs at the line for days.
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Post by plax on Dec 10, 2013 16:07:33 GMT -5
steelersfan4life56I can see Mike Evans falling to the 13-18 range. I think he will be a great guy, but more as a WR2 to start out his career. I think every player benefits a great deal by playing at Alabama lol. From what I know, Kouandjio replaced respected OL Barrett Jones at LT because his potential was that good. I do not think he is much of a project at all. I can see him stepping in on opening day and play LT. I think Lewan's skillset will relegate him to RT. I just have that kind of gut feeling about him. I think he will be an average pro. Won't wow you, but won't screw up. Well, Hageman is ALREADY a first round DT, and I can see him going top 10 depending on his performance at the combine. As for Tuitt, I personally think he would fare better moving around in a 43 scheme, but I think he can be a pretty solid 34 DE. I love Dennard and think he will be a great player in the NFL. I also like Olomu a lot, and from what I know of him, he is a very good tackler for a CB. Have not watched a lot of Gilbert, so can't say much there - I hear he is very good though. Not sure about any of them in zone. I would put Davante Adams in the Watkins/Evans class IF he declares, which I am thinking he will if Carr goes. I think Adams will be a stud. After those three, I have Marqise Lee RIGHT there. I put Kelvin Benjamin in a class of his own. I think this dude can be a VERY VERY special player - still raw though. If he goes to a team that doesn't need him to put up big things right away, watch out. Then I have Robinson, with Richardson and Matthews behind him. 1. Watkins 2. Evans 3. Adams 4. Lee 5. Benjamin 6. Robinson 7. Matthews 8. Richardson His off-the-field troubles have hurt his stock. I can see him going at the tail-end of the 1st.
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Post by MarchingOn on Dec 10, 2013 16:20:17 GMT -5
I think Lewan's skillset will relegate him to RT. I just have that kind of gut feeling about him. I think he will be an average pro. Won't wow you, but won't screw up.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Dec 10, 2013 16:22:11 GMT -5
Do you think Taylor Lewan can succeed as a LT in a zone scheme? Everything I have heard so far seems like that would be far from the case. I know a lot of mock draft so far have the Steelers picking him... And I know he plays for one of Michigan's rivals but what's your opinion on Darqueze Dennard? Do you think he would be a good fit on the Steelers D? Tackling is a top priority and des he have any experience in zone? I do. Quick feet and athleticism (which are necessary for a zone scheme) are arguably Lewan's biggest strengths. I honestly think he could play both ways (as a zone blocker, and as a road-grader) but he might actually be better suited for zone blocking imo. I've talked with Plax about Dennard before, and we're both in agreement that he's a top 2 CB at WORST. (Ekpre-Olomu from Oregon being the other CB) From the things I've read, Ekpre-Olomu is better at zone coverage while Dennard is much better in man, but I wouldn't think either one of them is bad in the other coverages either.. Yeah, Dennard is super physical and aggressive. He can jam WRs at the line for days. That's good to hear about Lewan. If the Steelers plan on continuing with the ZBS they need a guy that can work in space and get up field. Then again between Suggs, Dumervil, Dunlap, Sheard, Kruger, and Mingo, the OT would likely have to be some what physical so that works for Lewan as well. And that's certainly good to hear about Dennard and Ekpre-Olomu, now just need their stock to rise to justify taking them haha. The Steelers are desperate for a LT and CB.
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