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Post by craig440 on Apr 9, 2016 23:46:29 GMT -5
And who cares what Obama is talking about? He's concerned the world leaders are concerned? Well as Steve Martin would say. "Well Excuse me" We have the worst world relations in my life time. We have the worst racism issues in my life time. And I was born in 1954. I have never seen anything like what has happened in the last eight years. And that is a fact you may want to look into.
so we could elect Hillary and continue the established fraud and corruption, or not.
If you for one moment don't think the Clintons are very very very corrupt you are so stupid its amazing. You probably think that Christians think Noah actually brought two of every animal on a boat he built. Once again, you were to liberal to get the message.
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Post by 101mitch on Apr 10, 2016 0:04:38 GMT -5
craig440 Of course other world leaders are going to be concerned about Trumps wall plan, or Cruz's idea to monitor all Muslims. Those are bad ideas that will very strongly and negatively impact international relationships. World leaders do speak to one another. What's arrogant about Obama in that speech? I can't even take you seriously anymore... You just sound like a hateful old man who hates anything liberal (yet swear that you are an undecided at this point). The thing you super liberals don't understand is actually the liberal verbiage of what people say. You take it so literal. Like the Bible, you take it so literal that you can not understand the point. I know you will call me names again, but I am not a hateful old man who hates anything liberal. So to shorten my response I will just say, Trump does not care if the leaders of the world don't like him. He is for America first. That is his appeal. Is he dangerous? Ya I say probably. Is he part of the establishment that John Kennedy warned us about and died for? absolutely not. Bernie is not a part of that either. But Hillary is. There is only two choices here. Either go for the status quo or make a change. There are two movements in the offering. Pick one. Or go for the same old con. Its up to you. Oh I didn't explain "the Wall" It means he will secure the border. He's not going to build the wall of China. Come on wake up to the message The wall is just a border. It will involve lots more than bricks and cement. But you don't understand the message. "1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border." From Trumps own website. Call me crazy, but I think he is planning on building a wall. |
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Post by Jindred on Apr 10, 2016 0:39:45 GMT -5
The thing you super liberals don't understand is actually the liberal verbiage of what people say. You take it so literal. Like the Bible, you take it so literal that you can not understand the point. I know you will call me names again, but I am not a hateful old man who hates anything liberal. So to shorten my response I will just say, Trump does not care if the leaders of the world don't like him. He is for America first. That is his appeal. Is he dangerous? Ya I say probably. Is he part of the establishment that John Kennedy warned us about and died for? absolutely not. Bernie is not a part of that either. But Hillary is. There is only two choices here. Either go for the status quo or make a change. There are two movements in the offering. Pick one. Or go for the same old con. Its up to you. Oh I didn't explain "the Wall" It means he will secure the border. He's not going to build the wall of China. Come on wake up to the message The wall is just a border. It will involve lots more than bricks and cement. But you don't understand the message. "1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border." From Trumps own website. Call me crazy, but I think he is planning on building a wall. That and his constant statements of "I'm going to build a wall.. it will cost (insert false number of dollars here) and it's going to be the best wall, cause I make the best walls!" |
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Post by craig440 on Apr 10, 2016 1:14:53 GMT -5
The thing you super liberals don't understand is actually the liberal verbiage of what people say. You take it so literal. Like the Bible, you take it so literal that you can not understand the point. I know you will call me names again, but I am not a hateful old man who hates anything liberal. So to shorten my response I will just say, Trump does not care if the leaders of the world don't like him. He is for America first. That is his appeal. Is he dangerous? Ya I say probably. Is he part of the establishment that John Kennedy warned us about and died for? absolutely not. Bernie is not a part of that either. But Hillary is. There is only two choices here. Either go for the status quo or make a change. There are two movements in the offering. Pick one. Or go for the same old con. Its up to you. Oh I didn't explain "the Wall" It means he will secure the border. He's not going to build the wall of China. Come on wake up to the message The wall is just a border. It will involve lots more than bricks and cement. But you don't understand the message. "1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border." From Trumps own website. Call me crazy, but I think he is planning on building a wall. I Maybe so in some area's. But the message is he will stop the thousands of people coming across the boarder illegally. He will help to insure our safety. He will put up fences and towers to protect the boarder. He will make you go thru the legal method to be a citizen. What the hell is wrong with that? We have a huge problem here in the southern states. And anyone can just walk across the boarder. I agree with Trump that without a boarder, who are you? So your post that there will be a WALL. Don't you have a fire WALL on your computer? Is it a real wall? or is it just a protection? You all need to expand your concept of reality. A "Wall" does not mean block and brick. The illegals dig and come by boat. It means securing the boarder. Wake up. |
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Post by saskabronco on Apr 10, 2016 5:31:18 GMT -5
"1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border." From Trumps own website. Call me crazy, but I think he is planning on building a wall. I Maybe so in some area's. But the message is he will stop the thousands of people coming across the boarder illegally. He will help to insure our safety. He will put up fences and towers to protect the boarder. He will make you go thru the legal method to be a citizen. What the hell is wrong with that? We have a huge problem here in the southern states. And anyone can just walk across the boarder. I agree with Trump that without a boarder, who are you? So your post that there will be a WALL. Don't you have a fire WALL on your computer? Is it a real wall? or is it just a protection? You all need to expand your concept of reality. A "Wall" does not mean block and brick. The illegals dig and come by boat. It means securing the boarder. Wake up. Watch this video please. It breaks down Trump's promises about building an actual wall and what that entails. They talk about the costs that he's projected vs reality, and it talks about why building a wall does nothing positive for boarder security. Please watch it. You refuse to watch or acknowledge anything that doesn't go along with what you want to believe. People walking across the border is not the issue and the wall won't fix that. At the same time, it will be extremely expensive and damaging in many, many ways. Trump doesn't care what other world leaders think. You are right about that. You should be worried about that. Foreign relations is extremely important. Being diplomatic and respectful is extremely important. An asshole like Trump would rather call Angela Merkel (German leader) an ugly bitch than make sure the countries are on good terms with a strong relationship. Diplomacy matters very much. Obama is good at being diplomatic. If another nation's leader criticized America for something under Trump's watch, he would lash out and insult them because he is insecure and insanely defensive about the most minor things. You can't run a country like that. You are right that both Trump and Bernie are not part of the "establishment" but that is about the only similarity between them. There are massive, very important differences. Mainly, Bernie is anti-establishment and has been for forty years now. He has been actively fighting the establishment for decades using political means. He has a strong record of challenging the biggest issues in politics and is actively campaigning on those same issues that he's been fighting for for so long. Trump, on the other small hand, doesn't care about getting money out of politics. He's not running a campaign funded by other wealthy donors, but he's in this to make money. That's why he's only donated a small amount of his own money, and loaned nearly $20 million to his campaign. Loaning money, instead of donating money, means he can get that money back, with interest, from the campaign. He's not against the establishment and money in politics, he just figured out a way to turn a profit from it. Please just just do a couple things: 1) Go back and answer the questions I asked before. What would staying a little longer in Iraq have accomplished? What would another president (McCain, Romney, Trump) have done better than Obama for this war, given that an exit strategy was already set in motion before taking office? Why is diplomacy, and an unwillingness to recklessly endanger more lives, considered weakness? 2) Watch the video I posted above about the wall and then either admit that you are wrong, or explain why John Olver is wrong and the border wall would actually be a good idea. 3) Explain how Obama made racism worse now than it has been in your lifetime. That is an absurd statement. Just because you notice it more now does not mean it's worse, being blissfully ignorant of the horrible segregation that was going on for the first decades of your life doesn't mean it wasn't happening. To clarify, I didn't say you were a hateful old man. I don't think you are a hateful old man. I actually like you quite a lot. Outside of discussing political issues, I think you're an awesome, fun person. I said you are starting to sound like a hateful old man. I hope you can find a way to stop that before you turn into a classic Fox News praising, Obama hating grandpa. |
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Post by Jancey on Apr 10, 2016 10:42:43 GMT -5
But saska, it doesn't matter how expensive the wall is. The Mexicans will pay for it, duh.
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Post by Morkim on Apr 10, 2016 11:46:43 GMT -5
But saska, it doesn't matter how expensive the wall is. The Mexicans will pay for it, duh. Idk. I kind of like the waffle iron plan. Unless you're some kind of sick fuck, not one Pygmy Owl will die in the waffle iron plan. |
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Post by Jindred on Apr 10, 2016 12:05:11 GMT -5
But saska, it doesn't matter how expensive the wall is. The Mexicans will pay for it, duh. Idk. I kind of like the waffle iron plan. Unless you're some kind of sick fuck, not one Pygmy Owl will die in the waffle iron plan. #makeamericasmelllikebreakfast |
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Post by Jindred on Apr 10, 2016 12:09:43 GMT -5
But saska, it doesn't matter how expensive the wall is. The Mexicans will pay for it, duh. And his plan to essentially hold poor starving families hostage until Mexico does pay for it is such a great idea! (Plans to cut people off from being able to send money back to their families in Mexico untIL they pay for the wall. But only the illegals of course. Which will you know.. be totally possible, easy and effective.) |
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 2:06:04 GMT -5
Been real busy. I truly want to try and follow you guys but I've been busier than normal. Mom is at home and relearning to walk. One thing I noticed is you guys keep posting John Oliver stuff. You do know he is comedian and a satiricalist (is that even a word?) right? Like the Onion. There are no rules or responsibility for truth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oliver_%28comedian%29 |
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