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Post by Morkim on Jul 20, 2014 21:43:21 GMT -5
Not only that, but you need Lebron happy to bring in top free agents. But again, the whole idea that Lebron is twisting anyone's arm for a better chance to win is laughable. Don't you think the Cavs want to win too?
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 20, 2014 22:20:34 GMT -5
Just say no. Let LeBron have a hissy fit if he doesn't get what he wants. And lose the BEST *sigh* player in the NBA?? No way. Give him whatever he wants, lets face it he is EASILY the most influential player in the NBA. The Spurs won the title AGAINST LeBron. If he doesn't want to play by my rules as an owner, he can ride the bench for all I care.
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 20, 2014 22:21:23 GMT -5
Not only that, but you need Lebron happy to bring in top free agents. But again, the whole idea that Lebron is twisting anyone's arm for a better chance to win is laughable. Don't you think the Cavs want to win too? Yes, but winning and making Lebron happy are two different things.
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Post by Morkim on Jul 20, 2014 22:26:26 GMT -5
Not only that, but you need Lebron happy to bring in top free agents. But again, the whole idea that Lebron is twisting anyone's arm for a better chance to win is laughable. Don't you think the Cavs want to win too? Yes, but winning and making Lebron happy are two different things. Who helps the Cavs win more? Wiggins or Love? I'll point you to innocents post here.
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Post by MarchingOn on Jul 21, 2014 11:58:38 GMT -5
So what is your master plan to fix this problem? Just say no. Let LeBron have a hissy fit if he doesn't get what he wants. Would you turn down Lebron if he wanted to come to your team?
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 21, 2014 14:02:35 GMT -5
Just say no. Let LeBron have a hissy fit if he doesn't get what he wants. Would you turn down Lebron if he wanted to come to your team? Oh I would sign him, just not at the risk of tearing apart my entire roster, especially if we had made the playoffs.
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Post by Morkim on Jul 21, 2014 14:11:14 GMT -5
Would you turn down Lebron if he wanted to come to your team? Oh I would sign him, just not at the risk of tearing apart my entire roster, especially if we had made the playoffs. But the Cavs didn't make the playoffs, did they? You didn't answer my question. Who gives the Cavs a better chance to win, Love or Wiggins?
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 21, 2014 15:09:40 GMT -5
Oh I would sign him, just not at the risk of tearing apart my entire roster, especially if we had made the playoffs. But the Cavs didn't make the playoffs, did they? You didn't answer my question. Who gives the Cavs a better chance to win, Love or Wiggins? Wiggins if it means keeping their bench intact as opposed to destroying it for James like the Heat did and they missed out on the Championship that first year. To get Kevin Love, it would mean to probably give up Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson, and probably Weiters the way Minnesota is going about (Love is easily their best player since KG). They already gave up Jack and Karasev to clear space for James. LeBron is also not going to be around forever and is going to hit 30 soon. Wiggins is 20 and could be every bit of the Superstar James is if he has James mentoring him and taking the pressure off of him from having to perform early. You don't draft someone #1 overall to be a Trade asset, especially for someone who isn't guaranteed to sign an extension.
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Post by inoccent on Jul 21, 2014 17:53:15 GMT -5
But the Cavs didn't make the playoffs, did they? You didn't answer my question. Who gives the Cavs a better chance to win, Love or Wiggins? Wiggins if it means keeping their bench intact as opposed to destroying it for James like the Heat did and they missed out on the Championship that first year. To get Kevin Love, it would mean to probably give up Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson, and probably Weiters the way Minnesota is going about (Love is easily their best player since KG). They already gave up Jack and Karasev to clear space for James. LeBron is also not going to be around forever and is going to hit 30 soon. Wiggins is 20 and could be every bit of the Superstar James is if he has James mentoring him and taking the pressure off of him from having to perform early. You don't draft someone #1 overall to be a Trade asset, especially for someone who isn't guaranteed to sign an extension. Love said he would sign an extension to stay in Cleveland with Lebron. Love is a top 10ish player RIGHT now. Wiggins might be eventually. In a perfect world Wiggins would stay and Cleveland would work a way for the trade to work. No way this happens tho. The trade should have happened by now if anyone in Cleveland has a brain. Sent from my Nexus 5 using proboards
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Post by MarchingOn on Jul 21, 2014 20:08:40 GMT -5
But the Cavs didn't make the playoffs, did they? You didn't answer my question. Who gives the Cavs a better chance to win, Love or Wiggins? Wiggins if it means keeping their bench intact as opposed to destroying it for James like the Heat did and they missed out on the Championship that first year. To get Kevin Love, it would mean to probably give up Wiggins, Bennett, Thompson, and probably Weiters the way Minnesota is going about (Love is easily their best player since KG). They already gave up Jack and Karasev to clear space for James. LeBron is also not going to be around forever and is going to hit 30 soon. Wiggins is 20 and could be every bit of the Superstar James is if he has James mentoring him and taking the pressure off of him from having to perform early. You don't draft someone #1 overall to be a Trade asset, especially for someone who isn't guaranteed to sign an extension. In Lebron James' 11 year career, he has never been the highest paid player on his team. Given that, I don't understand how you can say he destroyed the Heat's roster. If anything, he was compromising with the Heat in order for them to have a better roster. When you have a player like James (who will likely retire as a top 5/top 10 player of all-time) and he isn't the highest paid player in the league, let alone the highest paid player on his team, I think that says something about his character and what he's willing to give up in order to win. I also don't understand how you can say Wiggins could be every bit the star James is. Lebron is on a different level than Wiggins.
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