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Post by Jancey on May 11, 2014 19:23:35 GMT -5
Good stuff Juggs. Looking forward to reading the rest.
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Post by Juggs on May 12, 2014 19:47:28 GMT -5
NFC EAST: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: Team grade: C+. None of these picks strike me as big impacts for next year, and Philadelphia could have done a better job with just about every pick. Smith might have been there round 2. Matthews definitely would have been there in round 3. A few late round gems might save this draft class. Not adding a safety who can start week 1 hurts.
Marcus Smith, DE, Louisville Grade: B- This pick is a tough one to grade. I expected Marcus Smith to be a steal in the second round, instead he went just a bit ahead of where he should have to a team that had bigger needs. That said, I think Smith has a bright future. He's an absolute mammoth of a pass rusher who overpowered undersized competition, and I think he'll continue that against NFL lineman as well. You won't find a better bull rusher outside of Jadeveon Clowney than this guy.
Jordan Mathews, WR, Vanderbilt Grade: D+ This was an enormous reach for the Eagles even if they'd gotten him in mid round 2, but instead they gave a fourth round pick to trade up and select an overrated wide receiver who is presumed to be a playmaker because of his size. Watching him at Vandy, he's slow out of his cuts, he's got awful hands, and I think he's got bust written all over him. The only reason this grade isn't an F is because the Eagles desperately need a tall wide receiver.
Josh Huff, WR, Oregon Grade: B+ For a slot receiver, Huff plays bigger and tougher than you'd expect. He gets open by pure will, and I've seen him pancake guys getting off the jam. He might not be an awesome value here, but he's a unique kind of WR that could give coaches fits if they have to stop him.
Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida Grade: A The Eagles not only succeeded in waiting to find their answer at corner, they even traded down while landing a player who should have gone in round 2. Watkins was one of the lone bright spots at Florida. He's a good cover guy who's elite at getting behind the line and making tackles. Maybe he move to SS for the Eagles if they need him there, but he can definitely play either spot.
Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon Grade: A- Hart is a huge 3-4 DE that gets through the line so quick that you can't believe he's 288 lbs. He reminds me of Justin Smith for the 49ers. He did all the dirty work inside for Oregon without getting many sacks, and his effort is going to show up for Philadelphia.
Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford Grade: A You can't go wrong with Stanford defenders, especially in the fifth round. Reynolds can do it all as a single high free safety, and he can lock down one receiver. He's an okay athlete for what you're paying here.
Beau Allen, DT, Wisconsin Grade: C Didn't notice him watching Skov for Wisconsin film, and I thought their defensive line play wasn't good last season. Allen's a 5tech who the Eagles are trying to convert to nose tackle, and I don't think they'll have enough patience with a seventh round pick to make that happen.
DALLAS COWBOYS: Grade: C-. Dallas found a gem in round 1, and then missed on just about every pick after that as far as I'm concerned. This was one step forward two steps back.
Zach Martin, OL, Notre Dame Grade: A Amazing senior bowl practices, good combine, and consistently won on tape. The Cowboys got a decade starter here like they did with Tyron Smith a few years ago. I have no idea how Martin fell past the Giants at 12, hell, I would have liked him over Lewan at 11, just barely. Great value and the Cowboys smartly passed on Manziel here.
Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State Grade: C Lawrence is freaky athletic pass rusher who everybody wants to believe is Demarcus Ware's instant replacement. He can get to the quarterback, but he gives up against the run and he can't stay out of trouble off the field, getting suspended three times at Boise State. I don't see him panning out for Dallas, but if he does, the Cowboys got a steal in terms of draft position.
Anthony Hitchens, DE, Iowa Grade: D Hitchens has the prototypical DE build despite playing OLB at Iowa. He's also an enormous reach for Dallas, as I didn't expect him to be taken before round seven. He doesn't have much ability as a pass rusher and Dallas needed so many other guys than Hitchens at this spot. It's not often you see a round four pick who might not make the team.
Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh Grade: B He's a lanky guy with straight line speed, and he gets up in the air very well. I've got to expect he won't produce in the NFL right away since he barely contributed catching passes from Tom Savage against paltry competition. This is a project pick at wide receiver when there were better ones available.
Ben Gardner, DE, Stanford Grade: B+ This pick could be an A for Dallas if it weren't the third defensive end they've taken. Gardner is a maniac who loves hitting guys and getting hit. He works hard and played in a system that didn't emphasize production at his position, but he was always doubled opening up spots for Josh Mauro and Treny Murphy. I really hope he doesn't get buried on the Cowboys depth chart.
Will Smith, OLB, Texas Tech Grade: D He doesn't share any characteristics with the Patriots Will Smith other than his name. Smith is an undersized edge rusher who doesn't fit for the Cowboys standing up, and would be their 4th defensive end drafted. There's no way all these ends make the roster, and if I had to bet on who gets cut, it would be Smith.
Ahmad Dixon, SS, Baylor Grade: A- Dixon is an athletic in the box safety with decent coverage skills after the pass is thrown. He takes great angles and makes good hits, doing everything pretty well. He fell because most though he fit better at OLB, but if the Texans play him there, I will lose my shit, and this grade will be an F, since they would have spent an entire draft on one position.
Ken Bishop, DT, Northern Illinois Grade: F Don't know who he is and I haven't watched him. Dallas drafted him for his long arms and potential to be a space eater. No production against bad competition, and he's not a great athlete either. I don't understand this pick, other than filling a need. Dallas can't expect this guy will play anytime soon though.
Terrence Mitchell, CB, Oregon Grade: B I had Mitchell of the board in round 5. He moves well and gets great position on the ball before it's thrown. Of all of Dallas' guys taken in round 7, the last one is the one with the brightest future.
NEW YORK GIANTS: Grade: A-. Not drafting a tight end was baffling, and a few of their picks made no sense at first. Looking back, I like this draft a lot. Beckham, Richburg, and Williams are all going to see a lot of time year one.
Odell Beckham Jr, WR, LSU Grade: A- You could call this a reach at a position that wasn't close to their biggest need, but Beckham steps up in big games and runs routes cleaner than any receiver in the draft. People who want to say he's a Victor Cruz clone might not be far off, but he'll play in the outside and leave the slot for salsa boy.
Weston Richburg, C, Colorado Grade: B I give the Giants credit for passing on the hyped Marcus Martin and snagging my favorite center of the group. Richburg never missed a game for the Colorado and he looks to be ready to start week 1 over JD Walton. Taking a center early in the second round just won't be a better grade than a B post draft, especially if you already had a decent option there. Not picking Jace Amaro was a mistake.
Jay Bromley, DT, Syracuse Grade: C- Who? The Giants fell in love with the local 2 gapper during the extended pre draft process, and my brother tells me there was another team that was going to take him soon after the Giants picked. I still think this is a Giant reach. Bromley's a 5-tech 3-4 DE, and there were better fits and talents still on the board.
Andre Williams, RB, Boston College Grade: A- Williams was totally overlooked despite taking 355 carries for 2177 yards because of his inability to catch the ball out the backfield, along with concerns over pass protection. The Giants have plenty of runningbacks who can rotate and get the other roles done, but Williams should be the workhorse of the group.
Nat Berhe, S, San Diego State Grade: B+ Berhe can do it all. He grade well in coverage, hitting, and tackling. He can play every role there is, and in the fifth round, that's a steal. Unfortunately at 5'10 193 lbs, he's not going to last in the NFL if he's on the field every snap. He'll need to move to FS and play a shut down role along the sidelines.
Devon Kennard, OLB, USC Grade: B Kennard drops back into coverage so well, he could start week 1 if that's all he had to do for New York. He's extremely raw defending the run and he's shown no ability in pass rush. He's a guy you might think about moving to strong safety.
Bennett Jackson, WR/CB, Notre Dame Grade: A Jackson is a two way edge guy who also plays special teams. He's got great stamina and durability, and Notre Dames coaches basically never stopped using him. He projects to just play corner in the NFL, but his experience at WR shows on tape. He knows where the ball is going and he gets to it before the defender.
WASHINGTON REDSKINS: Team grade: A. The Redskins didn't have a first round pick, but their GPA is borderline ivy league. Almost every pick impressed me to the point of applause.
Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford Grade: A Epic production, great pass rushing potential, and he gets after the ballcarrier very well also. This pick would have been an A or an A- on it's own, but the fact that Washington didn't a have a pick until round 2 and still traded back for Murphy was brilliant. Washington went a long way towards competing again.
Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia Grade: A Everyone and their grandmother knew Washington wanted Moses with their first pick, and when they passed on him, I was ready to bash them for it. Then they got him in round 3. That's crazy value. Moses is a road grading right tackle who will start immediately for Washington. He needs to work on handling quick edge rushers.
Spencer Long, G, Nebraska Grade: B+ Washington added an athletic counter specialist who's perfect for improving the read option and pull oriented offense. Plus, this was a free pick from a division rival the Redskins acquired trading with Dallas.
Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson Grade: A Breeland is way too talented to have been selected in the fourth round. The Redskins filled a need with a potential #1 corner this late. Amazing.
Ryan Grant, WR, Tulane Grade: B Grant didn't get media coverage at Tulane, he's an underrated possession receiver who can take a hit and hold onto the ball. Washington doesn't have that guy in a fast paced offense, so he could get snaps right away.
Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor Grade: A Yet another crazy value pick for the Redskins. RGIII reunites with his runningback. Seastrunk is an elite receiver out of the backfield and he's got good speed and elusiveness. He plays small and shys away from hits, but he'll make plays against defenses that get worn down by Alfred Morris.
Ted Bolser, TE, Indiana Grade: B This pick was chosen over better guys at the position, but the Redskins don't have a vertical threat project tight end, and Jordan Reed isn't a great blocker either. Bolser will stick around on this roster if the Fred Davis project is really over.
Zach Hocker, K, Arkansas Grade: F Drafting a kicker not named Fera or Santos? Questionable. He isn't a great power kicker and he missed three field goals last season. Panics in pressure situations.
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Post by Juggs on May 12, 2014 19:48:35 GMT -5
Sorry for only one division today. I had a four hour AP exam I had to take, and then chores all day ha. But it was at least sunny for the first time this year. More to come soon
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Post by plax on May 12, 2014 19:54:50 GMT -5
JuggsI agree with most of your grades for the Giants. To quickly speak on the Amaro thing, the Giants were reportedly not thrilled with taking him because he is a very poor blocker and he is just not a fit for the type of TEs the Giants seek. Additionally, I love the Andre Williams pick; I can see him like a Lacy-type back in the NFL. With Wilson possibly not being ready to start the year, I think Williams has a great opportunity to make a name for himself and get a good chunk out of the rotation. And one last thing, this time on Weston. He is a great pulling center and is very athletic, and reportedly is perfect for the McAdoo offense, so I am happy about that. Overall, I am pretty happy with the class. Two starters were picked up, and we can be looking at at least 2 or 3 other picks in the rotation in 2014.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on May 12, 2014 23:15:35 GMT -5
JuggsI figured you would have eaten up the Smith pick for sure. I haven't heard anything other than applause on the Matthews pick. Even before the draft I couldn't believe the love this kid was getting everwhere. Didn't see him projected anywhere past the 2nd round as well. Some had him in the first. Either way, I believe your way off on the Beckham pick and the Giants draft all together. But..good thread.
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Post by Juggs on May 13, 2014 16:38:05 GMT -5
I don't know what "eaten up" means, but I just want to clarify, I like the Smith pick. The B- is just because it was way too early.
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Post by Juggs on May 15, 2014 19:22:38 GMT -5
NFC SOUTH: CAROLINA PANTHERS: Team grade: B+. Carolina could never have done enough in this draft to erase who terrible free agency was. Maybe fans will forget Steve Smith leaving if Benjamin becomes the superstar he's capable of being.
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State. Grade: A- I bashed this pick when it was called, but I was over reacting. There's no reason why Benjamin's value started tanking late in the process. He's a totally unique receiver at 6'5'' who can't be shut down by any QB. Combine that with a massive need, and this was the only good choice Carolina could have made.
Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri Grade: B+ This pick needed to be a left tackle or a corner for a shot at an A. I suspect the Panthers ranked Ealy very high on their board and just couldn't pass him. He's an overrated pure pass rusher who fits better at 3-4 DE, he might play DT for Carolina if he can't get into the regular rotation. Ultimately, this was a very good value.
Trai Turner, G, LSU Grade: B The end of the third is a great value for the Panthers, and again, they needed other positions much worse than they needed a guard. I can't fail a team for picking a guy a round after I had him projected.
Tre Boston, SS, UNC Grade: F Boston is an athletic linebacker trying to lineup ten yards behind where he should. He has no single high ability and he's a liability in coverage. Reaching when you had bigger needs is a bad plan.
Bene Benwikere, CB, San Jose State. Grade: B- I have never heard of him, and this was quite a reach even for round 5. Scouts say he holds his own in coverage and played as an undersized number 1. Needs to be better in run coverage, but if all Carolina got was a hard working special teamer at a position of need, that you can't fail the pick.
Tyler Gaffney, RB, Stanford Grade: B+ Gaffney is a great power runner who can lineup as a fullback, play special teams, and he's great in pass protection. Good intangibles too.
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: Grade: B. They did well with the first three picks and they filled all their needs. The late round selections don't look promising, and they had a few reaches as well. The trade up for Cooks was baffling to me with Benjamin and Lee there.
Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State Grade: B+ I love Cooks elusiveness and moves after he gets the ball. He needs to get better separation and put in more effort getting to the ball in the air, but his big plays will come on screens and slants to take advantage of his 4.3 speed. I had him below Marqise Lee, and the Saints traded up which hurts the grade a bit.
Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska Grade: B- SJB might make some people drool with his size and ability to break up passes when he's in the area, but he's a huge liability in other areas, mainly in run support and facing receivers who cut very well. He looks like a very raw sub package guy with upside, and maybe that's worth a second round pick.
Khairi Fortt, LB, California Grade: A Love this pick. Fortt is a guy I missed when I was looking for great prospects but he's an absolute beast against the run, even if he has some work do in coverage. New Orleans found an elite interior pass rusher at premium value.
Vinnie Sunseri, SS, Alabama Grade: D It's a rare thing to be drafted when you might be the worst player on your defense, and Sunseri was a guy who was picked on by opposing quarterbacks more than the other way around. Couple that with a nasty ACL injury and this pick has bust written on it.
Ronald Powell, OLB, Florida Grade: C Powell is potentially a great edge rusher who has the size to play any linebacker position, and he played against the best at Florida. He came off a weak senior season though, and he's mostly being judged off measurables alone.
Tavon Rooks, OL, Kansas St. Grade: C He's had a ton of success with K-State and in junior college. Rooks is an athletic off line guard at best, but he'll need years of development in technique to crack the roster.
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: Team Grade: A-. Mike Evans is going to define this draft class in a good way, and he'll probably define this team for a decade. The rest of the class wasn't bad either. Tampa could have gotten an A if not for wasting their second round selection.
Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M Grade: A In a few years we're going to look back at this draft and not understand how Evans wasn't taken higher. He's the most explosive receiver and he has the best vertical game of any target available. Did you guys know he's taller than Kelvin Benjamin and has a better vertical? That was ignored in the Sammy Watkins hype would be my guess. This is an absolute steal.
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington Grade: D ASJ was hugely overhyped because of size and early comparisons to Rob Gronkowski. The reality is that he doesn't help you blocking and he isn't fast enough to be used as a vertical threat. Couple that with off the field concerns, and this pick is a head-scratcher.
Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia Grade: C The Bucs made a major reach in round three for a back who won't get regular carries. Sims is a third down back to pace Doug Martin and make plays receiving. There are plenty of guys who can do that available later on.
Kadeem Edwards, G, Tennessee State. Grade: A- I overlooked Edwards and didn't watch him on film. He's a massive run blocker with the potential to develop into a great guard. His mobility and effort on the pull is a weak spot, but they just won't use him outside. Nice pick.
Kevin Pamphile, OT, Purdue Grade: B Tampa Bay got a huge right tackle who gets low pass blocking, and might develop into a starter on the blindside eventually. There were better tackles available, but not many.
Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming Grade: A Evans and Herron might be exact opposites in style, but the Bucs just found a starting slot receiver for their 11 personnel package in the sixth round. That's crazy. Herron has blazing speed and an ability to make defenders miss every time in the open field.
ATLANTA FALCONS: Grade: B+. Jake Matthews is the player that will carry this grade for years, but there's no one else special here. On top of that, Atlanta needed more than one lineman and a tight end. Instead, they took four linebackers.
Jake Matthews, LT, Texas A&M Grade: A+ Matthews is the best offensive lineman in the draft and it's not even close. Despite being totally ignored because of Greg Robinson's superior measurables, Matthews shines as the kind of pass protector who will define this offensive line for a decade. His footwork is NFL quality and he dominates in pass protection. Atlanta couldn't have made a better pick here.
Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota Grade: C I used to be a big fan of Hageman's until I heard concerns about his effort and consistency, and I rewatched him at Minnesota. He takes too many plays off and the explosiveness you see getting of the line doesn't happen nearly enough. Stamina is a massive concern for him entering a league where he can't push over lineman like he did in college.
Dezmen Southward, CB, Wisconsin Grade: D- This reach is a spectacular failure and the reasons are obvious. Southward looks like an elite prospect in shorts and under armor, and he looks like a career backup on the field. Only reason this isn't an F is because he can play corner and safety, which is nice for a team without much depth.
Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State Grade: A- Well built all around runningback, and Atlanta got good value for him. Using Freeman for most of the touches and letting Steven Jackson get his is a winning formula. Freeman brings it all in pass protection and receiving as well.
Prince Shembo, OLB, Notre Dame Grade: A- If not for some huge off the field problems, Shembo would have gone in round 2. He's the ultimate 3-4 outside linebacker for containing an outside run, and he can rush the passer well from that position. He needs to get a little stronger, and if the allegations end up being true, he'll be in jail most likely, so this pick is either an A or an F depending on what happens there.
Ricardo Allen, CB, Purdue Grade: C- He's too small to be effective on the outside, and he didn't play inside in college, so he's got some work to do. Not an effective tackler and he doesn't press. He's got great hands and he picked of 13 passes at Purdue.
Marquis Spruill, LB, Syracuse Grade: B Great interior pass rusher to have for this late in the draft. He's also a good character to have on the team, and he'll be great on special teams. Nice depth linebacker. Trading down in the fifth can't really go wrong.
Yawin Smallwood, LB, Connecticut. Grade: C- He doesn't play with great power and he can't get through blocks. He's an above average coverage linebacker who doesn't do much else. Overrated in the draft process, but this was about where he should have gone.
Tyler Starr, OLB, South Dakota Grade: F Four players at one position in one draft guarantees they won't all make the roster, and Starr brigns by far the least to the table. He's got great measurables, but he's not ready for the NFL.
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Post by Morkim on May 15, 2014 19:31:19 GMT -5
Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota Grade: C I used to be a big fan of Hageman's until I heard concerns about his effort and consistency, and I rewatched him at Minnesota. He takes too many plays off and the explosiveness you see getting of the line doesn't happen nearly enough. Stamina is a massive concern for him entering a league where he can't push over lineman like he did in college.
Sounds like what they said about Poe. Very Pioli pick. I bet it works out for them. A-
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Post by Juggs on May 15, 2014 19:47:29 GMT -5
Best of the best grades so far: 1. Dolphins: A (James, Landry, Turner, Tripp) 2. Redskins: A (Murphy, Moses, Breeland, Seastrunk) 3. Texans: A (Clowney, Su'a-Filo, Nix, Fidorowicz, Savage) 4. Jaguars: A (Bortles, Lee, Robinson, Johnson) 5. Browns: A (Manziel, Bitonio, Gilbert) 6. Steelers: A- (Shazier, Tuitt, Bryant) 7. Titans: A- (Lewan, Sankey, Jones, Mettenberger) 8. Bucs: A- (Evans, Sims, Edwards, Herron) 9. Chargers: A- (Verrett, Attaochu, Watt, Grice) 10. Giants: A- (Beckham, Richburg, Williams) 11. Jets: A- (Pryor, Amaro, Dozier, Reilly) 12. Falcons: B+ (Matthews, Hageman, Freeman, Shembo) 13. Panthers: B+ (Benjamin, Ealy, Turner) 14. Ravens: B+ (Mosley, Jernigan, Urban, Talioferro) 15. Raiders. B (Mack, Carr, Jackson) 16. Saints: B (Cooks, Jean-Baptiste, Fortt) 17. Chiefs: B (Ford, Gaines, Thomas, Murray) 18. Bengals: B- (Dennard, Clarke, Hill, McCarron) 19. Broncos: C+ (Roby, Latimer, Barrow) 20. Eagles: C+ (Smith, Matthews, Huff, Watkins) 21. Patriots: C+ (Easley, Garoppolo, Fleming) 22. Bills: C (Watkins, Kouandjio, Ricardson) 23. Cowboys: C- (Martin, Lawrence, Gardner) 24. Colts: D (Mewhort, Moncrief)
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Post by nyj on May 19, 2014 21:51:26 GMT -5
The work you put into this Juggs is incredible. I can't argue with what you said about the jets other than Shaq Evans (he runs pretty good routes). Calvin Pryor might be better in coverage than thought. At least that's what some teams said. I don't believe Miami scored in the draft either. I would have gone for a high rated player on the board (Dennard, Haha Dix, etc. over reaching for a needs pick at RT.
Anyway, nice work.
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