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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 2, 2015 23:35:24 GMT -5
By the way - It's "institutional"..... Not "industrial". This is a classic example of type being taken out of context. The quote I bolded and enlarged is absolutely not being taken out of context. For a quote to be taken out of context, the quote's real meaning has to be contorted and made unrepresentative of the entirety of the statement. Your statement is not out of context because the portion of the quote I highlighted ("institutional racism is bullshit") does not contort, disagree with, or contradict anything in your entire post. In fact, what you wrote next ("We have laws against that") actually tries to STRENGTHEN your claim of "institutional racism is bullshit". Oh and why did you delete the page and thread this came from? Please put the page and thread back up? I want to see the conversation. I did not delete anything. The entire post and conversation between you and Saska is on page 254 of the politics thread. Stop accusing me of things when you have no basis to make such an accusation.I was talking about the ability to get a job. Minorities have the same if not better opportunity than whites. [citation needed] That is why I said we have laws. Just because we have laws against something does not mean that something doesn't exist. There's laws against sexual harassment in the workplace too. Would you deny that this happens?I was sharing my experience. I have also shared my experience where I was not hired because I was not a minority. Lego company is awesome. That is why I said Industrial racism is bull shit. And I think I was responding to a totally flippant post by Saska that blacks can't get a taxi. Which it total bull shit. You just said it again. lol, how can you deny your statements/claim "out of context" when you go on to write the same statement you're denying? I don't understand how your experience at Lego company makes institutional racism in its entirety bullshit. You'll have to explain that one to me.But I have never said racist people don't exist. Anyone knows that to be true. Racism and institutional racism are not the same thing. If I'm walking down the sidewalk and I see two kids of different color arguing, and one of those kids makes a racist remark, that's not institutional racism. That's just "normal", everyday racism. Basically, institutional racism occurs when racism is committed by workplaces, i.e. "institutions" (specifically, people that are employed by them) such as governmental organizations, schools, banks, courts of law, etc etc. And really, I can't even fathom why there are some people who concede that one form of racism exists and the other doesn't. - Some people are racist - People are employed by "institutions" - There's going to be overlap..I want you to respond to my post about instantly calling the shooting of Dubose racist. What do you think? Do you see a white cop shoot a black guy and instantly think of racism? If so that is what I believe to be a big problem. Do I see a white cop shoot a black guy and instantly claim racism? No, because every situation is different. Even though, generally, I admit I do instantly think "it probably is". That's not a conclusion I automatically jump to though, and I don't think anyone else on this forum is doing that either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 23:40:32 GMT -5
This is a classic example of type being taken out of context. The quote I bolded and enlarged is absolutely not being taken out of context. For a quote to be taken out of context, the quote's real meaning has to be contorted and unrepresentative of the entirety of the statement. Your statement is not out of context because the portion of the quote I highlighted ("institutional racism is bullshit") does not contort, disagree with, or contradict anything in your entire post. In fact, what you wrote next ("We have laws against that") actually tries to STRENGTHEN your claim of "institutional racism is bullshit". Oh and why did you delete the page and thread this came from? Please put the page and thread back up? I want to see the conversation. I did not delete anything. The entire post and conversation between you and Saska is on page 254 of the politics thread. Stop accusing me of things when you have no basis to make such an accusation.I was talking about the ability to get a job. Minorities have the same if not better opportunity than whites. [citation needed] That is why I said we have laws. Just because we have laws against something does not mean that something doesn't exist. There's laws against sexual harassment in the workplace too. Would you deny that this happens?I was sharing my experience. I have also shared my experience where I was not hired because I was not a minority. Lego company is awesome. That is why I said Industrial racism is bull shit. And I think I was responding to a totally flippant post by Saska that blacks can't get a taxi. Which it total bull shit. You just said it again. lol, how can you deny your statements/claim "out of context" when you go on to write the same statement you're denying? I don't understand how your experience at Lego company makes institutional racism in its entirety bullshit. You'll have to explain that one to me.But I have never said racist people don't exist. Anyone knows that to be true. Racism and institutional racism are not the same thing. If I'm walking down the sidewalk and I see two kids of different color arguing, and one of those kids makes a racist remark, that's not institutional racism. That's just "normal", everyday racism. Basically, institutional racism occurs when racism is committed by workplaces, i.e. "institutions" such as governmental organizations, schools, banks, courts of law, etc etc. And really, I can't even fathom why there are some people who concede that one form of racism exists and the other doesn't. - Some people are racist - People are employed by "institutions" - There's going to be overlap..I want you to respond to my post about instantly calling the shooting of Dubose racist. What do you think? Do you see a white cop shoot a black guy and instantly think of racism? If so that is what I believe to be a big problem. Do I see a white cop shoot a black guy and instantly claim racism? No, because every situation is different. Even though, generally, I admit I do instantly think "it probably is". That's not a conclusion I automatically jump to though, and I don't think anyone else on this forum is doing that either.Don't lie. You did edit my post, and you did delete the page originally. I saw it. So don't lie. You are better than that.
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 2, 2015 23:47:53 GMT -5
Don't lie. You did edit my post, and you did delete the page originally. I saw it. So don't lie. You are better than that. What the hell would I even gain from doing that? You didn't see anything, because nothing happened. I'm not the liar here. "You did edit my post" If that was true, then why is there no edit message beside your post? Because you know, those always appear after an edit. You see how there's no edit message in the little red circle I made?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 23:49:50 GMT -5
I thought you guys said the path to helping eliminate racism was to talk about it. So I am trying. And Saska I was talking about jobs, and job opportunities. You don't seem to be able to comprehend anything I say. You think black people can't get a taxi. You are so dead wrong. I'm getting really pissed that you all think white people in America are Nazi's or something. It's you guys that are baiting the race issue. And I'm pretty sure of that. It's people like you that don't see compromise and understanding. All you see is a fight. Which surprises me coming from liberals.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 0:02:46 GMT -5
So in the post of mine you just posted the Industrial racism is in small letters. In the post before you brought up its huge. So you are saying you didn't do that? We know you have admin powers. So did you edit my post or not? And I did see you post the page it was on. I did! and then you deleted it. I don't know why. I'm calling you a out. This is bull shit. If you can't even discuss something without editing and lying I'm out.
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 3, 2015 0:11:32 GMT -5
So in the post of mine you just posted the Industrial racism is in small letters. In the post before you brought up its huge. So you are saying you didn't do that? We know you have admin powers. So did you edit my post or not? And I did see you post the page it was on. I did! and then you deleted it. I don't know why. I'm calling you a out. This is bull shit. If you can't even discuss something without editing and lying I'm out. Every single person on this forum has the ability to enlarge text. That's not a mod power. lmao. I enlarged for emphasis that you did indeed make the statement. I enlarged that part of your post in the quote, not the original post. See, just like how I enlarged "small letters" in the quote above. That's not "editing your post".. That's editing the quote. I didn't delete anything. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You said I deleted a post and then you implied I put it back. Little did you know that that's actually impossible. Once a post is deleted, not even a mod can bring it back. That invalidates your entire accusation. Because your post is still there in its original form. So, once again, I'm telling you - Stop falsely accusing me. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 0:17:29 GMT -5
You did not delete the whole post, you deleted the thread, politics, and the page, 254. I saw it in your post and I went out for a cig and came back and it was gone. I had to ask you to repost it. Do you deny this happened?
It's on the top of page two. It clearly says EDITED. Down in the little corner your circled.
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 3, 2015 0:29:20 GMT -5
You did not delete the whole post, you deleted the thread, politics, and the page, 254. I saw it in your post and I went out for a cig and came back and it was gone. I had to ask you to repost it. Do you deny this happened? It's on the top of page two. It clearly says EDITED. Down in the little corner your circled. First of all, I'm moving this ridiculous conversation to the politics thread so we don't clutter DPNorman's. Secondly, you're seriously accusing me of deleting the entire politics thread? Um, yeah, I'm denying that that happened. Did you not see me just write in my post above that not even mods can bring back a deleted post? That goes for threads too. Thirdly, stop smoking. It's bad for you. I'm saying that nicely. Lastly, I edited my own post. You seriously can't tell the difference between an actual post and a screenshot of your post...? Sorry. This is so ridiculously stupid. Go to page 254. Your post is unedited.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 0:36:05 GMT -5
My post is unedited on page 254. It is edited in DPNormans thread. And you did post the page and then deleted it in your post in DP normans thread. Either that or I'm psychic. And I saw it before I asked you to repost it. Its a good page. I thought we were on the right path, but I guess that is not possible.
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Post by MarchingOn on Aug 3, 2015 0:41:55 GMT -5
My post is unedited on page 254. It is edited in DPNormans thread. And you did post the page and then deleted it in your post in DP normans thread. Either that or I'm psychic. And I saw it before I asked you to repost it. Its a good page. I thought we were on the right path, but I guess that is not possible. Your post on page 254 is the same post I quoted in DPNorman's thread. All I did was enlarge your "industrial racism is bull shit" text in the post -I- made. But I did that in THE QUOTE. Not your original post. I'm able to edit that. EVERYBODY is able to edit a quote. You can quote this post and edit it. You have the power to do that. I didn't delete shit. You have no idea what you're talking about. You are so confused right now, Craig. Once again, I. cannot. repost. anything. If I delete something, it stays deleted. I can't resurrect any posts that have been deleted.
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