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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 9, 2014 23:55:46 GMT -5
isn't it just fascinating how a team can win a game,have only one loss and their playoff hopes go out the window all in one motion LOL
cards are out as I said they would be 2 months ago.
as for the Giants...lets just wait and see
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 6, 2014 18:11:44 GMT -5
craig440 did any of your Charger buddies tell you they didn't win the Super Bowl on purpose? why did they only get that one shot ? why didn't it happen again before or sense ? you really have no clue why. just because you can point to a stat that says it had poor defense doesn't mean they had poor defense. It just means a stat is reflecting an occurrence on the field. Stats aren't the effect of a cause, they are a byproduct of a manipulation.
all you can do is disagree with me. You are entirely incapable of proving me wrong because the only thing you can then do is point at a stat and hope by faith that it means what it says.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 6, 2014 18:07:29 GMT -5
IE you aren't intelligent enough to understand something I said that is very basic logic. Heh your saying you know logic is akin to the rock saying it understands quantum physics. Your ENTIRE argument has been "It's too nonrandom, therefore it must have been fixed." That, in a nutshell, is your completely unschooled understanding of logic and probability. Go back to my previous post to see some actual terms and devices used in logic, and the fallacies which you're committing. You're exactly like the born-again evangelical who's so confirmed and entrenched in his beliefs that he literally cannot see that there might possibly be another alternative than his own, in even the smallest detail. And then when your 'logic' is questioned (using proper terms and structure, I might add) your fallback is first to call those who question you ignorant, then apparently graduate to calling them knowingly, deliberately hypocritical. Or, you're just a troll who's doing it all knowingly yourself (i.e., hypocrite) and laughing about it. One way or the other, one more insult in your responses and you're on ignore. I've had enough. where did I say anything about 'nonrandom' anything ? its very intelligent to understand that if the games were real there would be more fumbles and field goals and punts. no group of 40 men can be better then 31 other groups for 14 straight years while a roster keeps changing unless there is manipulation. see what I did there ? I gave you an example of something that cant possibly happen so perfectly but your mind is too indoctrinated by falsehoods to understand something so simple.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 6, 2014 17:57:40 GMT -5
you have no clue what you are saying. LOL at you probability reasoning and your idiotic lottery example. theres a chance for possibly one of the things I've used as an example to happen...possibly just one of them....but for all to have happened is absolutely absurd. People look for meaning when there doesn't have to be meaning. Regardless of the outcome, you would try to use that as an argument because the probability of any outcome is so unlikely. If there was a different winner every year, you would think it's fixed. Anytime a team repeats or wins multiple times in an era, it seems fixed. If a team doesn't win for a long time it seems fixed. Brothers, cousins, friends, fathers and sons... There are countless possibilities of story lines and every year is going to have something worth talking about. The fact that you are too stupid to comprehend that unlikely odds don't make something impossible is your own problem and makes you look more and more like an idiot every time you type something. You are just pulling all of this out of your ass. I could come up with endless different possibilities that could have happened that are far less likely than what has happened. The point is that you are looking for a pattern but you have no idea what you're looking at. You think you understand odds and probability but all you can comprehend is what you want to see. Get it through your thick skull how much more improbable it is that there could have been thousands of people involved in such a massive scam for over half a century I without any one single person ever leaking any bit of information or evidence regarding such a scam. Not everyone in the NFL is a millionaire.. You don't think a water boy or camera man or someone along the way wouldn't think they could make some money trying to leak this. There are a ton of people leaking piles of BS conspiracy theories every day... You don't think someone would have tried to let the cat out of the bag here? You're a moron if you truly believe in this conspiracy bullshit. you are admitting you don't know anything about logic
People look for meaning when there doesn't have to be meaning you are the one doing that when you talk all day about a player caring about an outcome of a game or a lineman needing to improve or a coach needing to change a plan.
when I see a ref make a bad call, I know he is lying. When I see a player fall down when the guy with the ball runs by, I know he's faking it.
they all know they work in a entertainment business, what do they need to tell you for ? Plenty of people who are friends of jocks know. You just aren't one of them.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 5, 2014 15:44:13 GMT -5
if the NFL wants it to be out of reach, it will be. But they'll make it look good in the process.
How do you figure the NFL doesn't want the Eagles to win it? Maybe they want chip to be the Genius that so many of my fellow homer eagle fans think he is. you cant prove an injury actually happened to Foles either.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 5, 2014 15:39:49 GMT -5
ram29jacksonI just want to point out one more thing before I stop engaging with you on your idiotic rumblings about conspiracy. You keep talking about how impossible it would be for any of the outcomes to happen, but that just shows that you really don't understand probabilities. There are so many possibilities of things that could happen with story lines that regardless of what happens, it is a highly improbable outcome. It's like winning the lottery. The odds of winning are so insanely small, yet every week someone defies the odds and wins, because there has to be a winner. The same can be said for football. That link you posted on the other thread just lead to one conclusion: there is nothing legally preventing the leagues to fix matches. But again, if there was any level of match fixing or scripting, it would have leaked at some point. Not everyone involved stands to make millions of dollars by being a part of it and someone of the thousands who would have to be involved each year would have said something at least once. But I wouldn't expect you to think rationally about anything... But I bet you could rock an aluminum foil hat like a champ. gobolts25 Sorry for feeding the troll again. I like reading bullshit and then pointing out why it's bullshit, but I moved the discussion back here since this thread is already tainted by his trollness, so people who don't want to keep reading his stupidity already know to stay away. I see this as a kind of game though... Like a fortune cookie full of crazy, irrational rants... Sometimes you just have to open it up and see how absurd the next one can be. It will get old soon though, I'm sure.
you have no clue what you are saying. LOL at you probability reasoning and your idiotic lottery example. theres a chance for possibly one of the things I've used as an example to happen...possibly just one of them....but for all to have happened is absolutely absurd.
this statement has nothing to do with the NFL and Premeditated outcomes. the odds are not small that someone will win because someone does win. the small part is that person getting all the numbers that randomly show up in a machine.
if the NFL was like the lottery then there should be much less chance of the outcomes happening that have happened.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 5, 2014 15:21:27 GMT -5
I think by thanks Giving you'll be singing a different tune then you are now. Go look at some teams schedule-records on espn the last couple years and see some examples of teams you thought were good or bad and the second 8 games are a row of red L's or green W's you didn't expect. that said, you people are basically hypocrites in your thinking. The NFL tells you "anything can happen" and you of course believe it ( even though intellectually its a false statement and doesn't apply any where else in life) a team goes to and loses 4 super bowls in a row. 2 brothers go to 5 super bowls in 8 years on 3 separate teams and you believe that but of course what I'm saying couldn't possibly happen and you don't believe that.....right ? so, you think I'm being ridiculous but you believe al the other past crap ?
Sorry, no matter how much you'd like it to be true, our disagreeing with you doesn't make us hypocrites. Are you STILL on this? STFU about it, already. Nobody here buys your arguments. Deal with it. IE you aren't intelligent enough to understand something I said that is very basic logic.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 4, 2014 22:34:33 GMT -5
so what ? the point of recognizing them as a major market is that they have success more often then not compared to a majority of other teams. They are still part of a larger whole and will miss the playoffs once in a while. The major market teams have to rotate missing once in a while to throw a bone to the lesser teams/owners/markets. The entire NFC East is the cool kids table and Dallas has had to take a back seat since they have 8 SB appearances but they've never become a cellar dweller with constant .500 records lately. I liked the White helmet with green wings though,back then There are 32 teams in the league. With the salary caps in place, good teams can't retain all of their best players forever... There will always be fluctuation in team talent. With 32 teams, there will always be drama, last minute comebacks, blow outs, etc... Your theory on the NFL is just plain ridiculous. Explain how the thousands of people that would have to be involved for all of this match fixing have never once let a single bit if information or evidence leak. The problem with you is that no matter how many times you are wrong in your predictions, you will just continue to spew crap. are the playoffs tomorrow / I have gotten no long term prediction wrong yet. The Giants can lose 3 more games and still make the playoffs. what fixing ? employees do what they are told. Its a show. you are obviously not intellectually sound. I don't have to have correct predictions to prove games are staged. you simply don't logically understand that there are way too many unlikely outcomes happening over and over. If the games were played for real...QBs wouldn't last as long and there would be many more punts and field goals per game and per season.
LOL its fascinating that people think pro sports leagues are somehow more sacred and up front. this is a billions of dollars industry. you know absolutely nothing about large organized religion or big business or the wonderful world of national politics but all these things involve billions of dollars and you know its corrupt. why would a player complain ? he makes more money then the common man for 2 or 3 years work and if he complained he immediately called a freak by media and everyone in the league denies it. its not against the law for them to change the outcome of their games because everyone is hired to do that. Its not a secret and no one is being rogue about it.
here ,read this for starters thefixisin.net/theproof.html
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 4, 2014 20:21:09 GMT -5
I meant collectively as opposed to/against the NFC west. You did notice the Eagles wont have a starting QB for 8 weeks didn't you? 3-5 should be generous without a supposedly good starter out.
Do you really think Foles is even marginally better than Sanchez? Many Eagles fans have been calling for Sanchez since the preseason. I have defended Foles thru and thru because I want him to succeed, but I am really questioning if Foles ever starts another game for Philly. Demeco Ryans being hurt does hurt our D significantly. 3-5 is possible...but please dont think that 5-3 or even 6-2 is out of reach.
if the NFL wants it to be out of reach, it will be. But they'll make it look good in the process.
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Post by ram29jackson on Nov 4, 2014 20:16:25 GMT -5
the reasoning is that games are staged and manipulated and things happen in the season to create drama. ..and then its a major market team that ends up benefitting anyway.
I could care less which teams are involved.
where did I say Washington needs to win a lot for anything to happen ? they already played spoiler beating dallas and will win a couple more strategically placed games
Philadelphia is a major market....so... so what ? the point of recognizing them as a major market is that they have success more often then not compared to a majority of other teams. They are still part of a larger whole and will miss the playoffs once in a while. The major market teams have to rotate missing once in a while to throw a bone to the lesser teams/owners/markets. The entire NFC East is the cool kids table and Dallas has had to take a back seat since they have 8 SB appearances but they've never become a cellar dweller with constant .500 records lately. I liked the White helmet with green wings though,back then
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