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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 28, 2015 13:46:32 GMT -5
According to NFL.com, Roger Goodell has decided not to reduce Tom Brady's 4-Game suspension. This must mean that negotiations have failed between the NFL and NFLPA in getting Brady a reduced suspension. This means that he will likely go to court, unless Brady and the NFL came to an understanding (which is unlikely).
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Post by Morkim on Jul 28, 2015 13:51:06 GMT -5
On the bright side for Brady, other than going to court, he -does- get paid for the bye week. (Which apparently was an NFLPA concern.)
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Post by MarchingOn on Jul 28, 2015 14:19:57 GMT -5
They're really giving Brady the same suspension as Greg Hardy. The NFL... Where plucking a bit of air out of a football is just as heinous a crime as domestic abuse.
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Post by Jindred on Jul 28, 2015 14:25:50 GMT -5
Didnt Craig and Skid have money on this?
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Post by Morkim on Jul 28, 2015 14:29:08 GMT -5
Didnt Craig and Skid have money on this? CoC and skid. But the bet isn't over yet
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 28, 2015 14:32:03 GMT -5
Didnt Craig and Skid have money on this? It was me and sk1d. However, there are still some issues. If he goes to court and plays Week 1 while the court is processing, then the bet is voided. The bet is predicated on this being closed out before the regular season.
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Post by cityofchamps on Jul 28, 2015 14:59:14 GMT -5
Excerpt from a letter from the league office:
"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell upheld today the four-game suspension imposed on New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady on May 11. Brady's appeal from that discipline was heard for more than ten hours on June 23," the league's statement said.
"In the opinion informing Brady that his appeal had been denied, Commissioner Goodell emphasized important new information disclosed by Brady and his representatives in connection with the hearing.
"On or shortly before March 6, the day that Tom Brady met with independent investigator Ted Wells and his colleagues, Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed. He did so even though he was aware that the investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on that phone. During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device. The destruction of the cell phone was not disclosed until June 18, almost four months after the investigators had first sought electronic information from Brady.
"Based on the Wells Report and the evidence presented at the hearing, Commissioner Goodell concluded in his decision that Brady was aware of, and took steps to support, the actions of other team employees to deflate game footballs below the levels called for by the NFL's Official Playing Rules. The commissioner found that Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs."
This definitely doesn't look good for Brady in a court hearing. Before, it was merely circumstantial evidence and he had a chance of getting the suspension reduced at the very least. Now that it comes out that he destroyed the cell phone before the investigators could get access to it, even knowing they had requested information, shows that he was very more than likely hiding something (why else would you destroy a cell phone that had information on it that you knew investigators were looking for?). There isn't ironclad evidence against him, but Brady has CERTAINLY not acted like an innocent man in all of this.
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Post by Divebitch on Jul 28, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -5
If everything cityofchamps is true... and I'm trying to be impartial, but do ya think Brady put Goodell between a rock and a hard place? Destroyed his phone, asked for a fine instead of any penalties and admission of guilt - basically a bribe? Am I the only one, or is that comical? No way that was gonna fly. I saw a reduction to 2 weeks, but he got greedy and wanted to want scott-free to not tarnish his image. Brady wouldn't miss $5 million bucks, much less what he was probably hoping for < $1 mil. No way would Goodell look like a spineless scumbag, especially with no evidence to the contrary for Brady and his destruction of evidence. IDK what happened really. Maybe his destruction of the phone was enough. EDIT: Listening to the Brady camp, it's ROFLMAO funny. Saying destroyed phone records are irrelevant. Who destroys your phone? Really? Anyway, this move is strictly to save face. Just can't imagine anyone believes this will be successful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 17:29:24 GMT -5
Jindred Yes me and skid do have $100.00 bet. He said Brady would sue in court. I said he would not. My reasoning was he is guilty of knowing if not ordering the slightly illegal balls. And if he and his assistants were under oath in a court of law, the assistants would sing like canarys. If they or Brady lied they would face jail time. Which is a whole lot different than an NFL suspension. Now this is where it may get complicated. I would have to go back and look at the exact verbage. But thats the bet I remember. If or if not BRADY sues. I heard today the NFL filed a suit to uphold their decision. Filed in a court of law. So in my opinion if the NFL sues or the NFLPA sues, I win. Brady and the assistants may end up in court due to the NFL suing. But I doubt it. I would think Brady would just shut up since he knows he would be on the stand and everyone would be watching. So I expect the NFL suit to be not contested by Brady. haha. I knew I should have been a lawyer. So since I'm such a nice guy patriotsk1d if you want to concede now that I was right, I will let you off the hook for the money. I will just make you serve a sentence one week with a charger avatar. haha. That's a plea deal option. Or you can refuse the plea deal and ride it out. Brady will not sue. MarchingOn Brady and Hardy same punishment! Sounds crazy huh! I agree. I heard a long conversation on sports talk today and they said the crime Brady/Patriots did is not the reason for the long suspension. It's the cover up and distruction of evidence that pissed Goodell off. He doesn't like to be lied to. That's what they said. If Brady would have just said "yeah I like the ball a little softer. I'm sorry" he would have got off almost scott free. Probably just a fine. But to try and make Goodell look bad back fired.
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Post by Morkim on Jul 28, 2015 18:10:18 GMT -5
Jindred Yes me and skid do have $100.00 bet. He said Brady would sue in court. I said he would not. My reasoning was he is guilty of knowing if not ordering the slightly illegal balls. And if he and his assistants were under oath in a court of law, the assistants would sing like canarys. If they or Brady lied they would face jail time. Which is a whole lot different than an NFL suspension. Now this is where it may get complicated. I would have to go back and look at the exact verbage. But thats the bet I remember. If or if not BRADY sues. I heard today the NFL filed a suit to uphold their decision. Filed in a court of law. So in my opinion if the NFL sues or the NFLPA sues, I win. Brady and the assistants may end up in court due to the NFL suing. But I doubt it. I would think Brady would just shut up since he knows he would be on the stand and everyone would be watching. So I expect the NFL suit to be not contested by Brady. haha. I knew I should have been a lawyer. So since I'm such a nice guy patriotsk1d if you want to concede now that I was right, I will let you off the hook for the money. I will just make you serve a sentence one week with a charger avatar. haha. That's a plea deal option. Or you can refuse the plea deal and ride it out. Brady will not sue. MarchingOn Brady and Hardy same punishment! Sounds crazy huh! I agree. I heard a long conversation on sports talk today and they said the crime Brady/Patriots did is not the reason for the long suspension. It's the cover up and distruction of evidence that pissed Goodell off. He doesn't like to be lied to. That's what they said. If Brady would have just said "yeah I like the ball a little softer. I'm sorry" he would have got off almost scott free. Probably just a fine. But to try and make Goodell look bad back fired. If the NFLPA sues on Brady's behalf you're claiming that Brady didn't sue? So if I sue Walmart, I didn't really sue them right? My lawyer did. On my behalf.
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