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Post by Jindred on Jul 28, 2015 21:19:12 GMT -5
Bolts trolled pretty hard at times. But he had his moments when you know, he was just a fan of football on a forum. That's sort of something that I take for granted on a website here. It's like looking at a violent criminal and saying, well, at least he breathes and shits consistently. He very much like Beast went from being a normal good poster to some weird crazy person.
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Post by Morkim on Jul 28, 2015 21:19:41 GMT -5
Bolts trolled pretty hard at times. But he had his moments when you know, he was just a fan of football on a forum. That's sort of something that I take for granted on a website here. It's like looking at a violent criminal and saying, well, at least he breathes and shits consistently. lol bolts wasn't a violent criminal of football forums. He'd be like, B&E and destruction of property. Just saying, he got on my nerves a lot, but he was still a different view. He contributed occasionally.
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Post by Juggs on Jul 28, 2015 22:14:00 GMT -5
I guess I don't ever remember Bolts from before a few months ago where he started wigging out and talking about x-ray machines like he was a nobel prize winner. I'll take your word for it. In retrospect, that chat message about his radiology qualifications was legitimately one of the hardest laughs of my life.
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Post by Jindred on Jul 29, 2015 0:11:05 GMT -5
I guess I don't ever remember Bolts from before a few months ago where he started wigging out and talking about x-ray machines like he was a nobel prize winner. I'll take your word for it. In retrospect, that chat message about his radiology qualifications was legitimately one of the hardest laughs of my life. Juggs.. This is serious shit.. Don't you realize how hard it is to take an X-ray? and how painful it can be?
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Post by mitch9234 on Jul 29, 2015 0:44:22 GMT -5
I guess I don't ever remember Bolts from before a few months ago where he started wigging out and talking about x-ray machines like he was a nobel prize winner. I'll take your word for it. In retrospect, that chat message about his radiology qualifications was legitimately one of the hardest laughs of my life. If you don't remember about him before that it's because he was normal prior to that, nothing wrong with him. Even I had a friendly chat with him once in the music thread. But his attitude of "I know about (insert subject) better than anyone here" irked me off.
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Post by Divebitch on Jul 29, 2015 6:40:19 GMT -5
We've not lost that many posters. We never had many. This might get deleted 2 years ago, probably not now that no one cares or mods knows what they should do. I pushed hard to get some people here. One person was actually told to re-apply in 6 months. I cried big tears at that. And when I wanted to invite someone (I was an 'esteemed' GY member), not only did it need to get voted on, but I couldn't invite them myself. Had to come from a mod, even knowing I had the better relationship with the person nateball89. Jin, with all due respect, and I mean that... there's probably a lot of history you know nothing about. You're not alone. But just saying. Here nor there, but I was a huge proponent for opening this up. We lost many valuable people, and it was water under the bridge, cuz it was finally too damn late. EDIT: I'm probably not the only one who's had some ideas how to improve this place. Honestly IDK. We have never had a whole ton but we have lost a bunch of great posters, it may not seem like that many, but when you don't have many to start with its a lot. Off the top of my head. Shaggzfate, BigD, KJcrowe, Rey, GoBolts, DanB, Sean, Hebert, Nickworthem, Cbagin, Beast, Ceven, Buccaneer, Dreday, Diehard, Playhataz, Fozzofzion, Lostabroad, Corndog, and now Jeff. These people were all posters who at one point or another contributed something awesome to our forum, and who's contributions I miss. There are also a bunch who are still around from time to time but rarely. Panther, Plax, Ace, The Roar, Miss. Lacy, Sirshockwave, again sure I am missing a few. There are also many who were great posters on NFL.com that came here and kinda discontinued and we lost many in the move itself.I don't doubt that there is a lot of shit that has gone on that I don't know about behind the scenes, I just think people are to hard on our mods. These aren't mods who are getting paid and its not like any of them had ever done it before. For the most part Panther started this place from nothing with the help of Plax and they picked a few people who they thought would do a good job. I also won't say our mods have been perfect there have absolutely been mistakes and hiccups, and some stuff I have disagreed with, but again, they are doing the best job they can from my perspective. Part of this site was that we had all known each other before hand and that moderating shouldn't really have been necessary. The other thing I think a lot of people don't take into consideration is that our mods are just mods. They were here because they were posters back on NFL.com. Its like one of your friends at work suddenly becomes your manager, not an easy thing to balance. At the start of this forum, wasn't one of our rules that any new members at all had to be voted in had they not been part of the original group invited? I am not trying to say you weren't treated unfairly cause I don't know the circumstance, but I just remember early on that everyone had to be voted in, I think that was one of the forum rules.. I was also for opening this place up once we had gotten through the "chaos" of NFL.com shutting down. Most people right at the beginning came here to get away from the trolls that had begun taking over at the other site, and it kinda led to a paranoia of letting new people in and upsetting the balance we had of good posters. Lemme try to reclarify, cuz not sure you're getting my main drift. First off, it has zero to do with current mods, zero. It's not like a friend becoming your boss, at least to me. Being a mod means zero to me. I don't respect you more or like you less. I pay no mind whatsoever except for conversation and until one abuses power inappropriately - rare occurrence, and we are all human. Second, did not mean to suggest I was ever treated unfairly. Yes, everyone had to be voted in. Then a rule that once a person (other than a personal friend) was approved, the invite could come from only Plax or Panther. I only used myself as an example of an 'esteemed GY member', who may have been gunning for someone to get in, and not entrusted for the simple task. Ya see now? As far as "opening this place up once we had gotten through the "chaos" of NFL.com shutting down", don't ya see it was too late? That there was no way to contact all those people? It was long suspected the NFL forum might close, but IDT anyone suspected it would happen so abruptly with no warning. I will always hate them for that. But this and that site was running concurrently for almost a year( ). Arguments aren't always a bad thing, long as it ain't the only thing. I've often said there is no replacing people, even for just a chuckle. Some of my fondest memories are of people like chad81, shot down immediately here. Now reminded of all the lost people you mentioned. Jeppers once listed by name who he was still here for. Guess I could do the same. Very grateful for the relationships I've forged thru NFL.com. But I'd imagine many that left don't have as many bonds, and not enough activity here that piques their interest. Plain and simple, people beget people - and this was treated like an exclusive club until it was far too late. Please understand that my feelings here are coming from a place of sadness, powerlessness, and thoughts of what could've been. Trying to end on a positive note, but it's a reach. What can ya say? Unfortunate scenario at NFL, hindsight is 20-20, water under the bridge.
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Post by h24dog on Jul 29, 2015 10:36:23 GMT -5
We've not lost that many posters. We never had many. This might get deleted 2 years ago, probably not now that no one cares or mods knows what they should do. I pushed hard to get some people here. One person was actually told to re-apply in 6 months. I cried big tears at that. And when I wanted to invite someone (I was an 'esteemed' GY member), not only did it need to get voted on, but I couldn't invite them myself. Had to come from a mod, even knowing I had the better relationship with the person nateball89. Jin, with all due respect, and I mean that... there's probably a lot of history you know nothing about. You're not alone. But just saying. Here nor there, but I was a huge proponent for opening this up. We lost many valuable people, and it was water under the bridge, cuz it was finally too damn late. EDIT: I'm probably not the only one who's had some ideas how to improve this place. Honestly IDK. At the start of this forum, wasn't one of our rules that any new members at all had to be voted in had they not been part of the original group invited? I am not trying to say you weren't treated unfairly cause I don't know the circumstance, but I just remember early on that everyone had to be voted in, I think that was one of the forum rules. Yes, that was a rule in the beginning. That's why my arrival took so long. And tbh I think I've negagated most if not all the reasons on why I wasn't accepted earlier.
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Post by Divebitch on Jul 29, 2015 11:40:20 GMT -5
Yes, that was a rule in the beginning. That's why my arrival took so long. And tbh I think I've negagated most if not all the reasons on why I wasn't accepted earlier. You my friend, are outstanding, and as you know the person I was referring to. And 'tbh' you didn't have to negate much. A little fallout in 1 league, but you never started any trouble with anyone. I'm much worse than you. But most other arrivals didn't take long at all. If anyone had any issue whatsoever with anyone, they could get tabled for awhile. Don't get me wrong. It made some sense at the time. Who knew NFL would combust like that? But still, some people here took themselves too seriously and pompously IMO, while others who felt they had a lot vested here could only watch and hope for the best. I like to say 'water under the bridge', but many will never get that there is some deep-seated anger and resentment surrounding the forum in general. Perhaps it is best left unsaid, IDK. And you don't have to be a GYer to appreciate all that. Everyone tried. It is what it is. May not be perfect, but thankful that it's here, and for every person as well, even patriotsk1d. lol
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Post by packdog on Jul 29, 2015 12:46:04 GMT -5
but of course this place ain't the same. heck, i sure ain't by miles and miles. prolly not returning to my old villainous "character" and, heck, drama was why it was originally created in the first place. all it took was for a couple of us to go against the grain done fite it go wit flo. hahaha u stil luk liek dawg. in dawg yeeas u prollie gets allot oleder den peepel. mabee u bee mi noo boifrend in cuppel yeers. maybe i should revert to my old ways if only to rally the masses against a common enemy. wouldn't make me a very good boyfriend though and i doubt me and you would hit it off like the the original family misstep. you were always too nice to draw the focus of my ire for long but, for me, this place is pretty dang close to how the graveyard was. much less traffic, sure, but familiar names and the sense of community here is strong. i can attach personalities to users and even this drama seems like old times. it is/was always something or someone. just like family. lol and holy shit it has taken like 5-6 years for me to finally get in a league with some OGs! i am surprised a challenge was never made by me or another graveyard member with all the smack we were spewing. i just assumed you all were scared of my vast fantasy superiority. or maybe i was wary of hive-wide collusion (you had a mod in the pocket afterall). anyways, i am glad to finally play in a graveyard league. and all because i found this place randomly a year or so after the nfl closed. was drunk as hell too so must houndogged my way to the old tavern or something
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Post by h24dog on Jul 29, 2015 13:18:52 GMT -5
Yes, that was a rule in the beginning. That's why my arrival took so long. And tbh I think I've negagated most if not all the reasons on why I wasn't accepted earlier. You my friend, are outstanding, and as you know the person I was referring to. And 'tbh' you didn't have to negate much. A little fallout in 1 league, but you never started any trouble with anyone. I'm much worse than you. But most other arrivals didn't take long at all. If anyone had any issue whatsoever with anyone, they could get tabled for awhile. Don't get me wrong. It made some sense at the time. Who knew NFL would combust like that? But still, some people here took themselves too seriously and pompously IMO, while others who felt they had a lot vested here could only watch and hope for the best. I like to say 'water under the bridge', but many will never get that there is some deep-seated anger and resentment surrounding the forum in general. Perhaps it is best left unsaid, IDK. And you don't have to be a GYer to appreciate all that. Everyone tried. It is what it is. May not be perfect, but thankful that it's here, and for every person as well, even patriotsk1d. lol I think the problem here with a lot of people is that they worry a lot about their self-image. I did for awhile to, with me copying all those ideas and stuff; I wanted to be like all the "OG's" that were mostly accepted here right off the bat, because I had actually been around just as long or even longer than some of the people who have that "name" now. Especially in that one league too; I went crazy with all that. The crazy thing with that league was that it was great in the first year, but it pretty much just spiraled out of control in the 2nd half, completely my fault to, but I learned a lot about that, as well as how you act here in a forum and in a league with people. Like right now, I saw at argument in the thread about Brady's suspension being upheld, and it was just more than disagreeing. Disagreeing is fine, and I think it's a good thing to an extent, but it's like "Man, this is a football forum. Why can't we just debate stuff and not get personal with all of our past stuff?". I've been one of the more vocal people on here trying to convey that message, and I think I've done a decent job. I made a thread on it here nflfanforums.proboards.com/thread/4289/on-state-forum, which you actually commented on, and I just wish everyone just thought like that here. Log on, talk football (and other topics), be yourself, don't harass others, and respect the opinion of other people (they may not like it, but they should at least live with it). Sometimes I think the other way about what I think and put on the shoes of the other user and wonder 'Why is he thinking of it this way?' and stuff. If we just stop caring about what everyone thinks of us and be respectful, it makes this place a lot more enjoyable in my opinion.
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