Post by nateball89 on Dec 10, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
To all the Broncos fans on these boards, let me first clarify that this is not a "call out" thread, and I'm not trying to incite, bait, or lure anyone into a fight. I actually like the Broncos, I'm a fan of Peyton Manning, and I'd much rather see him win one last Superbowl before he retires than Tom Brady. That said, there were some SERIOUS officiating discrepancies in the Buffalo/Denver game on Sunday. This video, however, does not lie.
I'll also add that even if there were completely unbiased, impartial, objective officiating, the Broncos still would have won because the Bills offense sucks. The Bills have shitty QBs, Doug Marrone and his staff are fucking morons, and Terry Pegula needs to clean house in the off season.
This video proves that even though the Bills were the inferior team and would have lost anyways, the refs were literally handing the game to the Broncos. It's disgusting to watch.
Bills players upset with officiating after penalty-plagued loss to Broncos
December, 7, 2014
DEC 7
8:45
PM ET
By Mike Rodak | ESPN.com
1K74COMMENTS153EMAILPRINT
DENVER -- Observed and heard in the locker room after the Buffalo Bills' 24-17 loss to the Denver Broncos:
Gilmore
Officials the hot topic: I spoke to some players after the game who declined to talk about the officials, either opting to keep their opinions to themselves or not wanting to have questionable calls overshadow the other problems in the rest of the game. However, other players were open about what they saw as tough breaks during the game. "It definitely felt like it was about 16 on 11," running back Anthony Dixon said. "But we can't make that an excuse. We did some things that we shouldn't have did. We can't be selfish like that. There were a couple selfish penalties by a couple of guys. We got to cut that out."
Gilmore gets conflicting messages: Perhaps the most debatable call of the game came in the second quarter, when cornerback Stephon Gilmore lowered his shoulder into Broncos receiver Emmanuel Sanders to break up a pass. He was flagged for defensive pass interference on the play. "He said I hit him early, but I don't think I hit him early," Gilmore said. "One of the refs said it looked good to him but another ref said, the one that called it, said it wasn't good. So it is what it is."
Robey confused by call: Another flag that will draw scrutiny came in the first quarter, when cornerback Nickell Robey was flagged for illegal contact in the red zone. From my view in the press box, it appeared Aaron Williams might have gotten tied up with receiver Demaryius Thomas and perhaps that's what the officials meant to call. Robey didn't think he committed a foul. "They didn't even explain it," he said. "I think it was a good play. I don't know where the contact came in at. I thought I hit him within the five-yard range. I didn't make that much contact. ...I didn't even think the flag was on me. I thought it was on somebody else."
The second-year cornerback didn't hold back when asked about the frustration of the Bills' 11 penalties in the game, totaling 98 yards. "Very frustrating," Robey said. "We understand that it's Denver. We understand that they are the AFC champions and all that other stuff. But at the end of the day, you have to call the game how it's supposed to be called. Some things just could have gone our way but they didn't. But I guess that's what happens when you're in someone else's territory."
Here's the vine link Aaron Williams is referring to: vine.co/v/Or5jHYrXF5t
I hate to come off as a whiner, I really do, but for all the times that we've complained on here or the NFL.com forums about the times that the league seemed to "influence" the outcome of Patriots games in the past, here is a shining example of how NFL officials treats a "David vs. Goliath" game. Peyton wasn't having his best game of the season by any means - he had a passer rating of 56.9, but that didn't matter. The officials helped him out. What had me livid and literally throwing things at my 65" Vizio as I was watching the game live was when Stephon Gilmore hit Emmanuel Sanders with HIS SHOULDER, and Sanders sold that he was hurt, waited for a call, and as soon as a call was made, Sanders BOUNCED back up, literally shoved the training staff off of him, SHOVED them, like gtfo of me, and then put a hand on his stomach and bowed for the crowd in response for the great acting job he did.
Again, this thread isn't meant to incite, but to enlighten. I'm not naive: it's not like "Holy shit! You mean officials sometimes have agendas? No way!" I know the league influences games and tells it officials to do certain things. It just sucks when it's my team. Kinda like when Jerry Hughes got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Patriots for slapping his teammate on the back in celebration of a third down stop. If only the Bills had an Aaron Rodgers or a Jim Kelly on their team. Watch how many calls or no calls would go our way. The whistles would be tucked in the referees shirts all day and the flags so far down their underwear they'd get lost.
I'll also add that even if there were completely unbiased, impartial, objective officiating, the Broncos still would have won because the Bills offense sucks. The Bills have shitty QBs, Doug Marrone and his staff are fucking morons, and Terry Pegula needs to clean house in the off season.
This video proves that even though the Bills were the inferior team and would have lost anyways, the refs were literally handing the game to the Broncos. It's disgusting to watch.
Bills players upset with officiating after penalty-plagued loss to Broncos
December, 7, 2014
DEC 7
8:45
PM ET
By Mike Rodak | ESPN.com
1K74COMMENTS153EMAILPRINT
DENVER -- Observed and heard in the locker room after the Buffalo Bills' 24-17 loss to the Denver Broncos:
Gilmore
Officials the hot topic: I spoke to some players after the game who declined to talk about the officials, either opting to keep their opinions to themselves or not wanting to have questionable calls overshadow the other problems in the rest of the game. However, other players were open about what they saw as tough breaks during the game. "It definitely felt like it was about 16 on 11," running back Anthony Dixon said. "But we can't make that an excuse. We did some things that we shouldn't have did. We can't be selfish like that. There were a couple selfish penalties by a couple of guys. We got to cut that out."
Gilmore gets conflicting messages: Perhaps the most debatable call of the game came in the second quarter, when cornerback Stephon Gilmore lowered his shoulder into Broncos receiver Emmanuel Sanders to break up a pass. He was flagged for defensive pass interference on the play. "He said I hit him early, but I don't think I hit him early," Gilmore said. "One of the refs said it looked good to him but another ref said, the one that called it, said it wasn't good. So it is what it is."
Robey confused by call: Another flag that will draw scrutiny came in the first quarter, when cornerback Nickell Robey was flagged for illegal contact in the red zone. From my view in the press box, it appeared Aaron Williams might have gotten tied up with receiver Demaryius Thomas and perhaps that's what the officials meant to call. Robey didn't think he committed a foul. "They didn't even explain it," he said. "I think it was a good play. I don't know where the contact came in at. I thought I hit him within the five-yard range. I didn't make that much contact. ...I didn't even think the flag was on me. I thought it was on somebody else."
The second-year cornerback didn't hold back when asked about the frustration of the Bills' 11 penalties in the game, totaling 98 yards. "Very frustrating," Robey said. "We understand that it's Denver. We understand that they are the AFC champions and all that other stuff. But at the end of the day, you have to call the game how it's supposed to be called. Some things just could have gone our way but they didn't. But I guess that's what happens when you're in someone else's territory."
Here's the vine link Aaron Williams is referring to: vine.co/v/Or5jHYrXF5t
I hate to come off as a whiner, I really do, but for all the times that we've complained on here or the NFL.com forums about the times that the league seemed to "influence" the outcome of Patriots games in the past, here is a shining example of how NFL officials treats a "David vs. Goliath" game. Peyton wasn't having his best game of the season by any means - he had a passer rating of 56.9, but that didn't matter. The officials helped him out. What had me livid and literally throwing things at my 65" Vizio as I was watching the game live was when Stephon Gilmore hit Emmanuel Sanders with HIS SHOULDER, and Sanders sold that he was hurt, waited for a call, and as soon as a call was made, Sanders BOUNCED back up, literally shoved the training staff off of him, SHOVED them, like gtfo of me, and then put a hand on his stomach and bowed for the crowd in response for the great acting job he did.
Again, this thread isn't meant to incite, but to enlighten. I'm not naive: it's not like "Holy shit! You mean officials sometimes have agendas? No way!" I know the league influences games and tells it officials to do certain things. It just sucks when it's my team. Kinda like when Jerry Hughes got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Patriots for slapping his teammate on the back in celebration of a third down stop. If only the Bills had an Aaron Rodgers or a Jim Kelly on their team. Watch how many calls or no calls would go our way. The whistles would be tucked in the referees shirts all day and the flags so far down their underwear they'd get lost.