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Post by ram29jackson on Dec 19, 2014 14:41:33 GMT -5
this is a line of bull. A complete lie that you have bought. No man and no team can be that successful without complete and total manipulation. The fact is you as well have no proof what so ever other than faith that it wasn't manipulated And all you have is faith that it was manipulated.
nope, I have the ability to re-watch and rewind stuff on youtube and see that players aren't doing anything but reaching their hands out and falling down on purpose instead of really trying to tackle. I have the ability to logically understand that when a player makes 2 one handed grabs in the first half and then in the second half when a half speed ball goes right at him and he has both hands up but somehow like a third grade moron,drops the ball like its jello not even flexing his fingers to grasp it that he is dropping it on purpose. Especially with those gloves that make it impossible to miss anything practically.
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Post by ram29jackson on Dec 19, 2014 15:00:21 GMT -5
this is a line of bull. A complete lie that you have bought. No man and no team can be that successful without complete and total manipulation. The fact is you as well have no proof what so ever other than faith that it wasn't manipulated Therefore we're all deluded and you have all the answers. Tell me another fairy tale, grandma. LOL you are the one believing in fairytales. You are the one who believes the players care about winning.
I am fascinated that its hard for someone to understand that you cant go to a championship 7 times in 14 years without it being externally manipulated. Its an intellectual given.
you keep making excuses for it because you need to believe fantastic ,unrealistic stuff keeps happening in sports.
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Post by gobolts25 on Dec 19, 2014 15:19:48 GMT -5
Therefore we're all deluded and you have all the answers. Tell me another fairy tale, grandma. LOL you are the one believing in fairytales. You are the one who believes the players care about winning.
I am fascinated that its hard for someone to understand that you cant go to a championship 7 times in 14 years without it being externally manipulated. Its an intellectual given.
you keep making excuses for it because you need to believe fantastic ,unrealistic stuff keeps happening in sports.
You're evading the point. You just (finally) flat-out admitted you have no proof. As I've said before, it's possible for a coin to come up heads 100 times in a row. Nothing is impossible, certainly not 7 championship games in 14 years, especially at a time when parity wasn't even a concept. And, of course, it's impossible that a human being could possibly make a mistake, especially when there are 11 opponents out there trying to force mistakes. Although there are times when guys dog it because they're afraid of injury, or unmotivated. But that's on the individual, not some overarching conspiracy involving several thousand people.
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Post by Morkim on Dec 19, 2014 16:34:14 GMT -5
And all you have is faith that it was manipulated.
nope, I have the ability to re-watch and rewind stuff on youtube and see that players aren't doing anything but reaching their hands out and falling down on purpose instead of really trying to tackle. I have the ability to logically understand that when a player makes 2 one handed grabs in the first half and then in the second half when a half speed ball goes right at him and he has both hands up but somehow like a third grade moron,drops the ball like its jello not even flexing his fingers to grasp it that he is dropping it on purpose. Especially with those gloves that make it impossible to miss anything practically.
I had no idea you could see intent on YouTube. Link? Also, is your argument of logic based on the fact that people who can catch well can't catch well 100% of the time? (Just replace catch with tackle for your other argument) Because I know I can catch a baseball. And I can catch it pretty well regularly. But does that mean I don't miss some catches? Your logic is full of holes. Do you know how probability really works? I play poker a lot. So funny story. When you play Holdem and and 4 cards to a flush with two cards to go, you have roughly 1-3 chance. But I played poker for several hours, and you know what? I missed 9 flush draws over the course of the night. What are the odds of that? (Well, 2-3, 9 times. Because every time is only 1-3. No matter how many times you fail.) Phil Hellmuth lost a poker tourney by missing 3 flush draws in a row. 3 hands in a row. Wonder if that was rigged?
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Post by ram29jackson on Dec 19, 2014 19:15:41 GMT -5
nope, I have the ability to re-watch and rewind stuff on youtube and see that players aren't doing anything but reaching their hands out and falling down on purpose instead of really trying to tackle. I have the ability to logically understand that when a player makes 2 one handed grabs in the first half and then in the second half when a half speed ball goes right at him and he has both hands up but somehow like a third grade moron,drops the ball like its jello not even flexing his fingers to grasp it that he is dropping it on purpose. Especially with those gloves that make it impossible to miss anything practically.
I had no idea you could see intent on YouTube. Link? Also, is your argument of logic based on the fact that people who can catch well can't catch well 100% of the time? (Just replace catch with tackle for your other argument) Because I know I can catch a baseball. And I can catch it pretty well regularly. But does that mean I don't miss some catches? Your logic is full of holes. Do you know how probability really works? I play poker a lot. So funny story. When you play Holdem and and 4 cards to a flush with two cards to go, you have roughly 1-3 chance. But I played poker for several hours, and you know what? I missed 9 flush draws over the course of the night. What are the odds of that? (Well, 2-3, 9 times. Because every time is only 1-3. No matter how many times you fail.) Phil Hellmuth lost a poker tourney by missing 3 flush draws in a row. 3 hands in a row. Wonder if that was rigged? I'm not the one with difficulty on how probability works. You are. You are saying you believe absolutely everything can go right for the Bills 4 years in a row to get a SB and then everything goes perfectly wrong once they get there. The probability of that happening is a thing called-impossible-
( for you simple minds that need clarification, I obviously mean a staggering improbable majority and not everything)
every flag,every 3rd down,penalty.injury, all the win /losses by other teams,points for and against,all the damn little things, have to go buffalo's way to get there 4 years in a row. I know more about probability then you by far.
oh and the NFL covered that in Strahan's hall of fame speech too when he kept repeating ((-the improbable is not impossible-))
that's simply the nfl teaching you to believe all the unrealistic,perfect endings they keep feeding you
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Post by Morkim on Dec 19, 2014 19:34:27 GMT -5
I had no idea you could see intent on YouTube. Link? Also, is your argument of logic based on the fact that people who can catch well can't catch well 100% of the time? (Just replace catch with tackle for your other argument) Because I know I can catch a baseball. And I can catch it pretty well regularly. But does that mean I don't miss some catches? Your logic is full of holes. Do you know how probability really works? I play poker a lot. So funny story. When you play Holdem and and 4 cards to a flush with two cards to go, you have roughly 1-3 chance. But I played poker for several hours, and you know what? I missed 9 flush draws over the course of the night. What are the odds of that? (Well, 2-3, 9 times. Because every time is only 1-3. No matter how many times you fail.) Phil Hellmuth lost a poker tourney by missing 3 flush draws in a row. 3 hands in a row. Wonder if that was rigged? I'm not the one with difficulty on how probability works. You are. You are saying you believe absolutely everything can go right for the Bills 4 years in a row to get a SB and then everything goes perfectly wrong once they get there. The probability of that happening is a thing called-impossible-
( for you simple minds that need clarification, I obviously mean a staggering improbable majority and not everything)
every flag,every 3rd down,penalty.injury, all the win /losses by other teams,points for and against,all the damn little things, have to go buffalo's way to get there 4 years in a row. I know more about probability then you by far.
oh and the NFL covered that in Strahan's hall of fame speech too when he kept repeating ((-the improbable is not impossible-))
that's simply the nfl teaching you to believe all the unrealistic,perfect endings they keep feeding you
So, no link to your YouTube videos where I can see the intent? You keep bringing up the Bills like thats the most grevious fluke ever. But all you have done is point at it and say how impossible it is, so it must be rigged? Where's logic in that? You're jumping to conclusions that are borderline insanity. Saying "I know more than you" doesn't really prove you do. I don't know what you're reading into these football players speeches, but by definition the improbable is not impossible. I didn't watch Strahans speech and I'm aware of that. But you seem to take what these football players say and twist it into your own view. What person with a normal view on the world assumes that Bennett was admitting the NFL is rigged when he apologized to Bears fans for not being entertaining? lol
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Post by gobolts25 on Dec 20, 2014 0:47:11 GMT -5
Something else to consider...of all the unwise loudmouths that have been in the NFL is there any way one of them wouldn't have screwed up and popped off about this so-called preplanning by now? Or are the media part of the conspiracy too, making sure that they don't bring up anything that might imply that it's all scripted? If so, expand that conspiracy to tens of thousands. Yeahrite.
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Post by DirtyBird on Dec 20, 2014 13:01:17 GMT -5
I probably brought it up last year, IDK what section or where this belongs. Back then, touched on the terms 'heads up' and 'read option'. Currently annoyed by 2 more... 1) Quarterback driven league 2) Copycat league Like a year ago, we concluded maybe new terms to refer to the same old stuff. And then they spew this QB stuff but 'defenses win championships'. Same guys talk opposites from both sides of their mouth depending on the matchup or phase of the moon. So who wants to tackle any of this? I like it when BB describes his whole team as Day to Day......
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 20, 2014 14:07:33 GMT -5
I probably brought it up last year, IDK what section or where this belongs. Back then, touched on the terms 'heads up' and 'read option'. Currently annoyed by 2 more... 1) Quarterback driven league 2) Copycat league Like a year ago, we concluded maybe new terms to refer to the same old stuff. And then they spew this QB stuff but 'defenses win championships'. Same guys talk opposites from both sides of their mouth depending on the matchup or phase of the moon. So who wants to tackle any of this? I like it when BB describes his whole team as Day to Day...... Now sure how that applies here, but too funny... Just a couple minutes ago, I was at BC6, looking at Edelman who is a 'Q'. Then read there were 12 guys on the Pats injury report. Always the last team to get updates on. Do they have some high tech media shield around their workouts?
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Post by Divebitch on Dec 21, 2014 19:35:16 GMT -5
Okay, I'm watching the Bills & Oakland. With 2 - 3 min left an announcers say something like "They're all looking for the next Richard Sherman, it's a copycat league". As nateball89 is my witness - did you hear it? Sorry about your Bills, well still 1:55 left - 9 pts down is grim. Edit: Nice run, I love Freddy. EDIT: TD Woods 1:09 left - onside kick coming probably. I bet Carpenter is good at this.
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