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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 17:38:01 GMT -5
QB: Warren Moon, Steve McNair, George Blanda
RB: Eddie George, Earl Campbell, Chris Johnson, Lorenzo White
WR: Ken Burrough, Ernest Givens, Charley Hennigan, Drew Hill, Derrick Mason
TE: Frank Wycheck, Alvin Reed, Mike Barber
LT: Brad Hopkins, Walt Suggs
RT: Michael Roos, David Stewart
C: Carl Mauck, Mark Stepnoski
LG: Mike Munchak, Bob Talimini
RG: Bruce Matthews, Benji Olson
LDT: Ray Childress, Curley Culp
RDT: Albert Haynesworth, Henry Ford
LDE: Jevon Kearse, Pat Holmes
RDE: Elvin Bethea, Don Floyd
LOLB: Eddie Robinson, Ted Washington
ROLB: Robert Brazile, Keith Bulluck
MLB: Gregg Bingham, Al Smith
LCB: Cris Dishman, Tony Banfield
RCB: Zeke Moore, Samari Rolle
FS: Marcus Robertson, Michal Griffin
SS: Jim Norton, Blaine Bishop
P: Craig Hentrich, Greg Montgomery
K: Al Del Greco, Rob Bironas
KR: Billy Johnson, Bobby Jancik
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Post by Juggs on Nov 25, 2014 17:51:39 GMT -5
Some obvious mistakes here. I made my own list this time which I will post in a few minutes. Biggest joke is Bulluck being a backup. He's by far our best linebacker of all time.
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Post by Juggs on Nov 25, 2014 18:21:20 GMT -5
QB: Steve McNair, Warren Moon, George Blanda
McNair IS the franchise. Yes Moon is in the Hall, but McNair outplayed him passing and of course running. He brought us to all off our highest highs as a franchise and simply IS the Titans. Warren Moon was great, but for a while, the NFL MVP and one-yard-short-of-a-SB-champion is the starter. After that, Moon and Blanda are great backups, but it’s not even close.
HB: Earl Campbell, Eddie George, Chris Johnson,
How do you get this wrong? Campbell is an all time top 10 runningback, George probably isn’t even going into the hall. That’s a pathetic choice.
FB: Lorenzo Neal
He’s maybe the best at his position ever, with respect to Allstot. I guess you just forgot him?
TE: Frank Wycheck, Dave Casper, Alvin Reed
I don’t give a shit about Casper not playing long enough. He’s an Oiler and I’m using him.
WR: Derrick Mason, Billy “White Shoes” Johnson, Ernest Givens, Drew Bennett, Kevin Dyson
You have Mason last? He’s our best WR and it’s not even close. Drew Hill? Hennigan? Over the Iron Man? Get out.
LT: Bruce Matthews, Brad Hopkins
Bruce Matthews is the best offensive lineman, and frankly, the BEST NFL PLAYER EVER. He’s fucking starting at Left Tackle. I get that there’s no good way to arrange THE BEST offensive line talent ever assembled, since Matthews, Hopkins, and Roos should all play tackle. Sadly, Roos has to move inside. Matthews and Hopkins are too of the all time greats. Roos has taken snaps at guard and would still dominate there.
LG: Mike Munchak, Mark Stepnoski
We have all the same guards which is nice to see, although it’d be tough to mess up. Step and Talimini would start on most teams, they won’t even see the field for the Titans.
C: Kevin Mawae, Bob Schmidt
And this is where you blew it. Mawae is a hall of fame semifinalist and one of the best Titans EVER. Complete snub.
RG: Michael Roos, Bob Talimini, Leon Gray
I can see Gray for Olson. Gray was the better player, but Olson had a longer career with Tennessee.
RT: Brad Hopkins, David Stewart
No complaints on your list here.
RE: Elvin Bethea, William Fuller, Jason Babin
I won’t fight for Fuller to play here. I include Babin because even in a short career he was amazing on the chain gang. Just going by career length and stats you would never know that he was integral to the best season in Titans history.
RDT: Jurrell Casey, Ed Husmann,
Ya forgot Casey. He’s already #2 behind Culp and he’ll soon pass him since we just locked him up until 2020.
LDT: Curley Culp, Ray Childress, Albert Haynesworth
You don’t have Curley Culp starting? SMH. Also, Big Al was not a factor for the Titans for the vast majority of his career. He just had one monster season that earned him the rep of being an elite DT. That earns him a roster spot, but starting him over Casey or Childress would be insane.
LDE: Javon Kearse, Kyle Vanden Bosch
Glad to see you remembered the freak. But you forget Vanden Bosch, another link in the chain gang.
ROLB: Keith Bulluck, John Grimsley
This is your biggest mistake EXCEPT not starting Matthews at LT. Tennessee’s weakest spot is LB on this roster. Bulluck is the only saving grace. He was a top 5 NFL LB who flew under the radar and probably earns a spot on the all 2000s team for the whole NFL.
MLB: Robert Brazile, Stephen Tulloch
Nothing to sneeze at here. You’re missing Tulloch who had a short but fantastic few years with Tennessee and went on to be even better with Detroit.
LOLB: Garland Boyette, George Wesbster
Our history is weak here so I won’t complain.
CB1: Cortland Finnegan, Tony Banfield
Cortland Finnegan isn’t even on your roster. SMH
CB2: Samari Rolle, Miller Farr, Chris Dishman
Starting Moore over Samari is a joke.
FS: Ken Houston, Jim Norton
Ken Houston is a top 5 safety in the history of pro football. It’s an absolute joke that you don’t have him.
SS: Blaine Bishop, Marcus Robertson, Fred Glick (holds the pro football record 27 tackles in a single game, but did it in the AFL. He's on my team for an honarble mention)
K: Rob Bironas, Al Del Greco
Al Del Greco might have more points, but Bironas is the better kicker. If you don’t know that… I don’t know where to start. He’s also on the all NFL decade team.
P: Craig Hentrich
LS: Kevin Mawae
KR: Ken Houston
PR: Billy “White Shoes” Johnson, Derrick Mason
Coached by Jeff Fisher and owned, unfortunately, by Bud Adams.
I contend that this team has the greatest offensive line of all time. Matthews and Munchak are both in the top 5 lineman of all time and if positional values were ignored, Matthews is probably the most valuable player of all time. Kevin Mawae and Michael Roos were both perennial all pros and pro bowlers even on some bad teams, and Bob Talimini is an AFL great that most haven’t heard of, but would be in the HoF if he’d played in the NFL.
As far as the offense, we’d run the classic run and shoot in 12 personnel. Wychek would play inline with Dave Capser (screw you Raiders I’m taking him) in the slot. Alternating Earl Campbell and Eddie George at runningback behind the best oline ever seen, I don’t think the lack of depth at WR would matter. Only one or two would be on the field at a time, and Derrick Mason in his prime gives the Titans one quality starter there anyway.
Defense would be all about pass rush. The Freak lined up with HoF’er Curley Culp, Casey and Bethea would be able to get by any oline rushing the passer, but our linebackers aren’t up to standard with exception of Keith Bulluck. We’d need to play the run towards his side.
Our secondary doesn’t scream big names, but Ken Houston is a Hall of Fame safety and statistically the second best returner all time behind Hester, and Jim Norton holds the record for most interceptions in the AFL all time. Bishop was one of the 90’s best hitters, and he would really help in the run game.
If this team were matched up against others, I think it would do incredibly well. I don’t see many all time defenses outside of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Chicago or Dallas that could EVER stop us. The offensive line opening the kind of holes they would for Campbell, George, and then CJ2k’s 09 prime on third downs? And if that fails we’ve still got Steve McNair running around throwing to one of the best tight end combos any franchise can boast. Our defense is probably below average compared to some of the great squads, but the pass rush is probably top 5 and would force a few stops each game, and I’m not sure our offense would ever be stopped.
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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 18:45:32 GMT -5
QB: Steve McNair, Warren Moon, George Blanda McNair IS the franchise. Yes Moon is in the Hall, but McNair outplayed him passing and of course running. He brought us to all off our highest highs as a franchise and simply IS the Titans. Warren Moon was great, but for a while, the NFL MVP and one-yard-short-of-a-SB-champion is the starter. After that, Moon and Blanda are great backups, but it’s not even close. If you think for one moment that Steve McNair was a better quarterback than Warren Moon then you never saw Moon play! It's not even close. Moon is a HOFer and McNair won't even sniff the hall. Warren Moon had 5 seasons that were better than McNair's BEST season. |
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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 19:11:56 GMT -5
HB: Earl Campbell, Eddie George, Chris Johnson, How do you get this wrong? Campbell is an all time top 10 runningback, George probably isn’t even going into the hall. That’s a pathetic choice. I didn't get it wrong, you did!
George should be a HOFer.
Yards George = 12153 Campbell = 9292
Touchdowns George = 74 Campbell = 73
1000 yard rushing seasons George = 7 Campbell = 5
Fumbles George = 34 Campbell = 39
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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 19:24:30 GMT -5
Let me ask you did you make this pick with a straight face? First off he was only with this team for two seasons. That in itself should eliminate him from serious consideration. Secondly he had 3 carries for -1 yard!! Now of course I understand that you are using him at "fullback" and he would be blocking instead of carrying the ball. But still he has no place on this team. Especially when you could have a pro bowl back in Lorenzo White who at 5'11, 222 lbs could also be used at FB |
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Post by Divebitch on Nov 25, 2014 19:38:12 GMT -5
Let me ask you did you make this pick with a straight face? First off he was only with this team for two seasons. That in itself should eliminate him from serious consideration. Secondly he had 3 carries for -1 yard!! Now of course I understand that you are using him at "fullback" and he would be blocking instead of carrying the ball. But still he has no place on this team. Especially when you could have a pro bowl back in Lorenzo White who at 5'11, 222 lbs could also be used at FB You need to learn how to quote people. lol That said, I have nothing to say on this subject, except you're doing a great job. And taking some crap along the way. But it's all good-natured, stuff people feel strongly about their own teams, and eager to take issue.    |
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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 19:41:06 GMT -5
TE: Frank Wycheck, Dave Casper, Alvin Reed I don’t give a shit about Casper not playing long enough. He’s an Oiler and I’m using him. Casper isn't an outrageous pick unlike your others. I prefer Mike Barber but it's relatively close. Like his 1980 season when he had 59 catches for 712 yards. Casper's best season with them was 1982 when he caught 36 balls for 573 yards. |
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Post by bears75 on Nov 25, 2014 19:44:59 GMT -5
You need to learn how to quote people. lol That said, I have nothing to say on this subject, except you're doing a great job. And taking some crap along the way. But it's all good-natured, stuff people feel strongly about their own teams, and eager to take issue. haha I swear the whole quote system has a mind of it's own. It's evil and out to get me!  |
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Post by Juggs on Nov 25, 2014 20:13:10 GMT -5
You need to learn how to quote people. lol That said, I have nothing to say on this subject, except you're doing a great job. And taking some crap along the way. But it's all good-natured, stuff people feel strongly about their own teams, and eager to take issue. haha I swear the whole quote system has a mind of it's own. It's evil and out to get me! On Casper, I'm totally just taking him based on his talent, not any stats or history with the Raiders. I built this team thinking "how can I create the best football team made of guys who played for TEN/HOU. Same reason I've got Neal on there. He would never see a carry, like you said, since they've got Campbell/George/CJ. I figured I would cut White since he wouldn't see the field at all, and Neal would be an important piece. |
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