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Post by Jindred on Nov 19, 2014 12:58:17 GMT -5
AJ Green and Julio are guys you don't ever sit IMO they play as long as they are healthy and aren't on a bye. From there it becomes slightly tougher.. Smith has a great matchup this week against the saints. According to Yahoo, the Saints give up the 7th most fantasy points to receivers in the league. He also just had a week off and might be re-energized this week. Though he hasn't done well the last few weeks... Hmm Roddy Whites matchup not as good.. Cleveland has a solid defense this year with a pretty good secondary.. Depends on if Hayden is gonna cover him or Julio.. If he is covering White he might be the guy I'd be sitting this week.. I'd play Jeffrey as well.. He has a great matchup this week at Tampa, who's defense is Brutal.. Ummm.. I'd probably go with Smith this week but I am in the minority of that.. Between him and Roddy I'd play the match up and give Smith a shot. You sound like Fabs. His arguments are always "[insert team] has given up the 7th most pts to TEs while on the road". Often meaningless for many reasons I'm too lazy to explain ATM. haha But 7th most is often not much diff in terms of % than 25th. Tell me top 5 at worse, I'll listen. Anyway, no guarantee, but all things being equal (in terms of matchup, etc) I like a team coming off a bye as well. Especially a veteran (who's not lost a step), and arguably the outspoken leader of the offense. I'll bet he's been barking up a storm over the past 2 weeks on getting him the ball and such. Their offense is pretty threadbare, I like the matchup. And it's MNF, you know he love attention. Yep, I'd probably sit Roddy. Does that help? LEL Just a way of saying Smith has a good match up against bad saints secondary, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 15:25:28 GMT -5
LOL...Yall arent helping me decide. I like the analysis Jindred. Its the same thing I thought,which is why I posted this to start with..haha. I should have not even asked about the other 3 WR's as Im going to play them regardless. Basically its between Steve Smith and Rowdy Roddy. CAnt make my mind up. I was waiting for Miss Lacy to respond too. She gave no analysis.
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Post by gobolts25 on Nov 19, 2014 18:57:21 GMT -5
I'd sit Roddy because, all other things being equal, I don't like starting two WR's from the same team. You're just stacking the odds against you that both will do well, especially against a secondary like Cleveland's.
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Post by Miss Lacy on Nov 20, 2014 9:21:19 GMT -5
I was waiting for Miss Lacy to respond too. She gave no analysis. Matt Ryan -> Roddy White -> at home = start him White is the veteran leader of that WR corps and has had a couple of good games in a row-- pushing ATL into first place. The Brownies defense has been stout lately, and Haden will be all over Julio Jones leaving Mr. White against the rookie Gilbert (who had been burned in enough games to see his snap count reduced). SSS has seen his numbers decline rapidly over the last four weeks, as Torrey Smith has been hauling in the long balls. I'd start Torrey over Steve here-- and hence, White over SSS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 19:24:55 GMT -5
With FF when a player has not produced in a few weeks or more it means that they are due...lol
I cant decide.
It may be time for the old coin flip
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Post by Divebitch on Nov 20, 2014 20:46:10 GMT -5
I'd sit Roddy because, all other things being equal, I don't like starting two WR's from the same team. You're just stacking the odds against you that both will do well, especially against a secondary like Cleveland's. Don't see it as that at all. You are not stacking odds against you. You are evening the odds. Like if JJ doesn't produce Roddy will. Or vice-versa. And sometime you get lucky and they both produce. IMO, there is no reason not to start 2 WRs from a teams other than it being bad for either/or. Uh oh. Who is Murray?
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Post by gobolts25 on Nov 20, 2014 21:18:42 GMT -5
I'd sit Roddy because, all other things being equal, I don't like starting two WR's from the same team. You're just stacking the odds against you that both will do well, especially against a secondary like Cleveland's. Don't see it as that at all. You are not stacking odds against you. You are evening the odds. Like if JJ doesn't produce Roddy will. Or vice-versa. And sometime you get lucky and they both produce. IMO, there is no reason not to start 2 WRs from a teams other than it being bad for either/or. Uh oh. Who is Murray? Hmm...so you take the chance of one of them not producing in the same game rather than having another WR in another game whose targets aren't impacted by either of those two WR's? Seems pretty clear to me.
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Post by Divebitch on Nov 21, 2014 8:16:14 GMT -5
Hmm...so you take the chance of one of them not producing in the same game rather than having another WR in another game whose targets aren't impacted by either of those two WR's? Seems pretty clear to me. Absolutely. But I don't see it as taking a chance one won't produce. I look at the likelihood of both producing. What's the difference between you starting both Jordy Nelson and Cobb, and 2 different people starting each? If I have Cobb, is he any more or less likely to score because someone else has Nelson? No. Same for D Thomas and Sanders, Marshall and Jeffrey, Calvin and Golden. By the same token, you can throw TEs into the mix too. Bottom line, there's plenty of ball to go around depending on the situation (talent at QB, opponent, etc). Ask yourself this... Would you rather start the top guy (some teams it's really hard to tell who that might even be - looking at you Rams, Chiefs, Titans, Vikings), and I'm only guessing Bowe, Cordarelle Patterson, Cecil Shorts, Doug Baldwin, Kendall Wright(?!) before you start Roddy White? No. It just doesn't matter who is starting Julio Jones, you or someone else. In this particular case, the Falcons have a sketchy to none run game, TE as well. He's got 17 catches. So yeah, I'm starting a healthy Harry Douglas before those other guys.
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Post by gobolts25 on Nov 21, 2014 11:16:01 GMT -5
Hmm...so you take the chance of one of them not producing in the same game rather than having another WR in another game whose targets aren't impacted by either of those two WR's? Seems pretty clear to me. Absolutely. But I don't see it as taking a chance one won't produce. I look at the likelihood of both producing. What's the difference between you starting both Jordy Nelson and Cobb, and 2 different people starting each? If I have Cobb, is he any more or less likely to score because someone else has Nelson? No. Same for D Thomas and Sanders, Marshall and Jeffrey, Calvin and Golden. By the same token, you can throw TEs into the mix too. Bottom line, there's plenty of ball to go around depending on the situation (talent at QB, opponent, etc). Ask yourself this... Would you rather start the top guy (some teams it's really hard to tell who that might even be - looking at you Rams, Chiefs, Titans, Vikings), and I'm only guessing Bowe, Cordarelle Patterson, Cecil Shorts, Doug Baldwin, Kendall Wright(?!) before you start Roddy White? No. It just doesn't matter who is starting Julio Jones, you or someone else. In this particular case, the Falcons have a sketchy to none run game, TE as well. He's got 17 catches. So yeah, I'm starting a healthy Harry Douglas before those other guys. That's not the issue, though. The question is, is Cobb more or less likely to score if Nelson blows up on one night (or vice versa)? And the answer is absolutely less. Who owns him doesn't enter into it, except as far as not starting two guys from the same team. Each limits the other's potential. Meanwhile, all other things being equal, someone who's the clear #1 without a lot of competition will be more likely to score.
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Post by Divebitch on Nov 21, 2014 12:08:12 GMT -5
That's not the issue, though. The question is, is Cobb more or less likely to score if Nelson blows up on one night (or vice versa)? And the answer is absolutely less. Who owns him doesn't enter into it, except as far as not starting two guys from the same team. Each limits the other's potential. Meanwhile, all other things being equal, someone who's the clear #1 without a lot of competition will be more likely to score. Think you missed all my points completely. Try another way... You don't know who is gonna blow up any given week. You only know that they are both very good, great QB, crappy opponent, whatever. Could be fine for BOTH WRs and their TE too. BOTH will be consistent, although 1 will outscore the other. I can show you a 100 examples, but ain't gonna. lol Just last week alone in my BC6 league (PPR and returns), Jordy 18.9, Cobb 14.9 - Baldwin 12.7, Floyd 10.4. You didn't address any point I made. Think. Think. Are you gonna sit Sanders cuz it might be D. Thomas week to get EVERYTHING? You could easily start a #1 in a worse situation that will not produce. Each situation is multi-faceted, and may change on a weekly basis - opponent, run game, QB, injuries, etc.
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