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Post by ram29jackson on Oct 24, 2014 0:46:37 GMT -5
LOL I said I thought more about it the last 4 year. I've been watching since the 70s as well. sorry sir but you are about 20 steps behind with your one dimensional thinking and assumptions.
of course I've gone to multiple sites. May as well use the internet to its fullest potential. one site and 10 guys isn't good enough.
I have learned that the general public is afraid of the possibility like its some great evil. Why should I be insulted and banned from sites for saying or thinking this? You have real life friends you don't disown for their thoughts and opinions. but people act you are stabbing their child and freak out and call me names LOL. the general public is just a mass of stupid/ignorance. even when I thought it was spontaneous I still knew it was just entertainment but there are guys in their 30s and 40s who still treat being a fan like its a gang war and you can only be a fan of one team etc etc LOL
I still like my football helmets. I like the aesthetics of football. But now I know theres no point in rooting for a particular underdog when it really matters. the major market and nationally popular teams just cycle every few years to who gets the prize, while the chargers and chiefs and falcons of the world just are there for fun
But why do you post this if you know no one is going to listen to you? You're right -- the general public is stupid, but I'm not. I know your hidden agenda.
No, seriously. I get a kick out of reading people's reactions to your crap on other sites, but not here man. This forum is different than those other ones. Go troll over there, not here man.
hidden agenda ? LOL no I'm an adult speaking my mind. You are creating a scenario in your head that doesn't exist. You seem to think something weird is going on when this is pretty straight forward. they say they aren't listening but now its too late. When they finally mature they will remember someone already knew while they ignored it.
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Post by Jindred on Oct 24, 2014 0:50:21 GMT -5
So are you actually a fan of the NFL? Do you actually enjoy football or do you just spend your time trying to turn other people off from what you believe is a sham?
I only really pinpointed it this summer. I am now seeing what I can guess is going on and observe the function during games. Whats the storyline etc. My picks against the spread and straight up are more interesting and have improved using less so called football knowledge and more understanding of what is trying to be done. It might fantasy football more interesting next year too as people are baffled by who I select LOL
I am the new breed of sports fan.I still and will always hate pro wrestling by the way.
but when each weekend has multiple fantastic finishes in the last 2 minutes, I am adult enough to know its bull now.No ones life is hat fantastic or perfect
So you are or aren't a fan of the NFL? Or are you a fan of soap opera's so you are trying to make the NFL out to be one. You keep talking about how improbable all these things are that aren't all that improbable in my eyes.. Let me bring up an improbability to you. How improbable is it that a league full of thousands of people could keep the best kept secret ever from a league with millions of fans that is constantly under the scrutinization of the worlds eye? How likely is it that not a single peep of this league being a fraud would get out? For a fraud like this to work every single person in the NFL would have to be in on it, or else outcomes could be skewed by random probability which would lead to things not working out the way the NFL wished. Humans suck at keeping secrets.. everything gets out into the open and a league as big as the NFL something like this would slip in a second if it were true.
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Post by saskabronco on Oct 24, 2014 1:01:13 GMT -5
Did the Rams beat Seattle this past weekend because of Mike Brown/the guy who died holding the sandwich?
I knew Seattle would decline this year along with the Cardinals. I figured they would wait till after the Rams game but apparently they started early LOL If you know all this stuff is going to happen, why not make actual predictions that can be documented rather than the hindsight approach of "ya, I totally knew that was gonna happen." And your argument of two brothers being so unlikely to meet up in a Super Bowl is just ridiculous. Just because things are unlikely, doesn't mean it can't ever happen. If it happnened every year then ya, maybe something is up, but the fact that it's only ever happened once makes it seem pretty realistic to me. To put the odds into perspective though... 16 coaches on each side. Each coach has a 1 in 16 chance of making the Super Bowl... The odds that both coaches make that Super Bowl is what, 1 in 456?
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Post by saskabronco on Oct 24, 2014 1:04:59 GMT -5
I just thought of something... What are the odds that two brothers would both be arguing the same point on a forum, hey Jindred?!? This site is totally scripted.. plax MarchingOn Jancey Panther ya'll have got some explaining to do.
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Post by Morkim on Oct 24, 2014 1:10:34 GMT -5
I just thought of something... What are the odds that two brothers would both be arguing the same point on a forum, hey Jindred?!? This site is totally scripted.. plax MarchingOn Jancey Panther ya'll have got some explaining to do. Better than 1 in 456.
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Post by saskabronco on Oct 24, 2014 1:13:35 GMT -5
I just thought of something... What are the odds that two brothers would both be arguing the same point on a forum, hey Jindred?!? This site is totally scripted.. plax MarchingOn Jancey Panther ya'll have got some explaining to do. Better than 1 in 456. It's been a while since I've done probabilities in high school math... But I thought if you have two different ratios, to find the probability of one specific outcome come out of both you just multiply them together. I could be very wrong with that. edit: this is correct, I just apparently can't multiply 16 by 16 in my head. 256...
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Post by ram29jackson on Oct 24, 2014 1:51:56 GMT -5
I only really pinpointed it this summer. I am now seeing what I can guess is going on and observe the function during games. Whats the storyline etc. My picks against the spread and straight up are more interesting and have improved using less so called football knowledge and more understanding of what is trying to be done. It might fantasy football more interesting next year too as people are baffled by who I select LOL
I am the new breed of sports fan.I still and will always hate pro wrestling by the way.
but when each weekend has multiple fantastic finishes in the last 2 minutes, I am adult enough to know its bull now.No ones life is hat fantastic or perfect
So you are or aren't a fan of the NFL? Or are you a fan of soap opera's so you are trying to make the NFL out to be one. You keep talking about how improbable all these things are that aren't all that improbable in my eyes.. Let me bring up an improbability to you. How improbable is it that a league full of thousands of people could keep the best kept secret ever from a league with millions of fans that is constantly under the scrutinization of the worlds eye? How likely is it that not a single peep of this league being a fraud would get out? For a fraud like this to work every single person in the NFL would have to be in on it, or else outcomes could be skewed by random probability which would lead to things not working out the way the NFL wished. Humans suck at keeping secrets.. everything gets out into the open and a league as big as the NFL something like this would slip in a second if it were true. what fraud ? you are assuming something is wrong. no, employees are just doing what an employer tells them to. whats to complain about / you signed a contract. the fact is no one has ever seen these contracts so you don't know the conditional wording. and why would you complain making 3 million for 2 years work when youll never make that kind of money again in your lifetime.
you complain and everyone else denies and the press makes you look like a fool. Its a multibillion dollar business. Apparently people don't understand what that means. and no..I'm sorry but 5 to 7 games a week cant be decided in the last 2 minutes if everything naturally played out. That's childish fantasy type thinking. It simply is. You have just been so conditioned by the clichés that you don't know how to process information anymore.
if everything was actually played for real, there would be no long term stars. QBs would be injured left and right and field goal kickers and punters would be a lot busier.
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Post by ram29jackson on Oct 24, 2014 1:59:38 GMT -5
It's been a while since I've done probabilities in high school math... But I thought if you have two different ratios, to find the probability of one specific outcome come out of both you just multiply them together. I could be very wrong with that. edit: this is correct, I just apparently can't multiply 16 by 16 in my head. 256... you are missing quite a few factors.
for a team to get to a super bowl you would start with 1x16x32= 512
then it would be multiple other factors. the odds on getting the majority of penalties and 3rd downs and injuries and points etc etc to all go your way a majority of the time.
it reaches into the millions
buffalo going to and losing 4 super bowls in a row is just pure fantasy. absolutely every single thing has to go right for them and wrong for them perfectly 4 years in a row. that is purely impossible without manipulation
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Post by saskabronco on Oct 24, 2014 1:59:39 GMT -5
So you are or aren't a fan of the NFL? Or are you a fan of soap opera's so you are trying to make the NFL out to be one. You keep talking about how improbable all these things are that aren't all that improbable in my eyes.. Let me bring up an improbability to you. How improbable is it that a league full of thousands of people could keep the best kept secret ever from a league with millions of fans that is constantly under the scrutinization of the worlds eye? How likely is it that not a single peep of this league being a fraud would get out? For a fraud like this to work every single person in the NFL would have to be in on it, or else outcomes could be skewed by random probability which would lead to things not working out the way the NFL wished. Humans suck at keeping secrets.. everything gets out into the open and a league as big as the NFL something like this would slip in a second if it were true. what fraud ? you are assuming something is wrong. no, employees are just doing what an employer tells them to. whats to complain about / you signed a contract. the fact is no one has ever seen these contracts so you don't know the conditional wording. and why would you complain making 3 million for 2 years work when youll never make that kind of money again in your lifetime.
you complain and everyone else denies and the press makes you look like a fool. Its a multibillion dollar business. Apparently people don't understand what that means. and no..I'm sorry but 5 to 7 games a week cant be decided in the last 2 minutes if everything naturally played out. That's childish fantasy type thinking. It simply is. You have just been so conditioned by the clichés that you don't know how to process information anymore.
if everything was actually played for real, there would be no long term stars. QBs would be injured left and right and field goal kickers and punters would be a lot busier.
Jin is right, there is no way your conspiracy is going one and not a single person involved has ever let it leak. Of course it's possible to have close games every week. You are grasping at straws, looking for something to cling to to support your theory, but you just sound like the crazy guy on the subway.
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Post by saskabronco on Oct 24, 2014 2:06:12 GMT -5
It's been a while since I've done probabilities in high school math... But I thought if you have two different ratios, to find the probability of one specific outcome come out of both you just multiply them together. I could be very wrong with that. edit: this is correct, I just apparently can't multiply 16 by 16 in my head. 256... you are missing quite a few factors.
for a team to get to a super bowl you would start with 1x16x32= 512
then it would be multiple other factors. the odds on getting the majority of penalties and 3rd downs and injuries and points etc etc to all go your way a majority of the time.
it reaches into the millions
buffalo going to and losing 4 super bowls in a row is just pure fantasy. absolutely every single thing has to go right for them and wrong for them perfectly 4 years in a row. that is purely impossible without manipulation
Where do you get 1*16*32? And the rest of your stuff is just complete bullshit. The odds of a team making the Super Bowl at the start of the year are 1 in 16. 1 of the 16 teams from each conference will make it. Getting penalties on third down doesn't factor into the equation at all... It doesn't reach into the millions. The thing about odds is that it doesn't matter what they are, sometimes things happen against all odds, and the odds aren't that outrageous for any of the things that you are screaming conspiracy about, especially when you consider the insane odds against something like people winning the lottery or life on earth... Numbers pulled out of your ass don't mean a damn thing.
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