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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 30, 2015 17:06:49 GMT -5
We don't want Fletcher Cox. We don't have his position on our defense. We don't want Sam Bradford. Healthy, he's worse than Mettenberger and has a lower ceiling. If you want 1.02 we'll take your whole draft. Tennessee has no reason to accept anything else. Mettenberger will never get close to Bradfords production that he put out in his two full years of playing. Bradford > Mett all day and you know it. Mett was NEVER looked at as a 1st round prospect. Bradford Rookie of the Year...how fast you forget. Cox would start for the Whizzz and you know it. Cox is top 5 DT...
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Post by Juggs on Mar 30, 2015 17:12:21 GMT -5
We don't want Fletcher Cox. We don't have his position on our defense. We don't want Sam Bradford. Healthy, he's worse than Mettenberger and has a lower ceiling. If you want 1.02 we'll take your whole draft. Tennessee has no reason to accept anything else. Mettenberger will never get close to Bradfords production that he put out in his two full years of playing. Bradford > Mett all day and you know it. Mett was NEVER looked at as a 1st round prospect. Bradford Rookie of the Year...how fast you forget. Cox would start for the Whizzz and you know it. Cox is top 5 DT... Cox would have to move positions or the titans would have to redesign our defense. We only use one DT and Jurrell Casey is that player. As far as mett, the consensus was early round two but after he had some good pre draft workouts, it was 50/50 first or second round. He fell bc of failed drug test and an alleged charge. Neither ended up nattering, same with Lewan.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 30, 2015 17:13:42 GMT -5
ROFL at your stupid Philly/kc trade. Eagle message boards would overheat if this went down. Chip knows whizz wouldn't waste that pick on a QB that some doubt will pan out in a prostyle O. Andy Reid will not fuck the Eagles ever again.
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Post by Juggs on Mar 30, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -5
My mock my logic. If I am on the clock for Tennessee there, I would have taken Hundley if he were there, but the Eagles were willing to pay more. It was a cheap price and I have no qualms about Hundley so why wouldn't Philly do this? They lost one pick and got a late rounder as well.
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Post by Juggs on Apr 16, 2015 22:12:53 GMT -5
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State The latest allegation news is making me very nervous he will be a Titan, and I am officially off the Winston bandwagon. I have zero doubts of him as a quarterback however. I just see Vince Young 2.0 in Winston as far as his personality.
2. Tennessee Titans: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon Things are going to get crazy. As I have been saying for months: NO ONE KNOWS what will happen with this pick, despite so many saying they do. I mock Mariota here only because there are rumors swirling that six different teams are trading with the Titans. Picking one would be too unlikely, so I think the most likely chance is just to take Mariota. Odds: 50% trade. 30% Mariota. 10% Winston. 9% Vic Beasley 1% Amari Cooper 0% Leonard Williams, Dante Fowler, Kevin White, Randy Gregory.
3. Jacksonville Jaguars: Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson He's been the best player in mind since February and his stock went up at the combine considerably. I think the Jaguars aren't even considering anyone else, other than in a trade. He's on par with Jadaveon Clowney and Julius Peppers in terms of what he did in college. As a Titans fan, I hope I'm wrong.
4. San Francisco from OAK: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama This has been rumored for a while now, and I think at this point it's more likely than Oakland drafting Cooper. Oakland wants Beasley and won't get him, so they get the haul of the draft to move down: 2015 1, 2015 2, 2015 5 and 2016 1. For once, Oakland will stockpile picks instead of trading them away, and overhaul a weak roster to build around Derek Carr.
5. Washington: Leonard Williams, DE, Southern California Leonard Williams never was the player the media made him out to be. He's too slow off the line to play 3 tech defensive tackle in the NFL, and he's too small to play 5 tech. The Redskins will hope he can bulk up and that his elite pass rush moves makes up for his other weaknesses.
6. New York Jets: Dante Flower, OLB, Florida Dante Fowler is a stronger, less athletic Vic Beasley. He doesn't have the same gift bending on the edge or quickness of the snap, and his technique is more raw than any other first round pass rusher. His ability to put a guy on skates with power makes him a top 10 pick.
7. Chicago: Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska Gregory's speed rush on the edge is on par with Fowler and nearly Beasley, but he's weak when he's run right at. The Bears will need to upgrade and get some runstoppers near him, but this pick has been rumored to happen the last few weeks, so I'm sticking with it.
8. Atlanta: Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia I've been too low on Gurley for a while. He's the best runningback prospect of the last 5 years and will be an immediate top 10 guy in the entire NFL at his position. The Falcons have Devonta Freeman and Antone Smith to spell Gurley so he doesn't take too many hits his rookie year. They also lost JaQuizz Rodgers, not that losing a backup really affects your logic on a potential franchise changing selection from your home state.
9. New York: Alvin Dupree, DE, Kentucky I like Shane Ray better as a prospect, but the Missouri guy is too small and slow off the line to play with his hand in the ground. The Giants have been rumored to take a 4-3 left end despite a greater need at safety, which they will address in round 2.
10. St. Louis: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia I have almost always had the Rams fix their dreadful offensive line in these mocks, but Kevin White is too good to pass up. He's an absolute steal at #10 for his ability as a deep threat. He could be a let down because of a limited route tree, but I'm less concerned about that problem after seeing Sammy Watkins, a much less developed route runner, go at #4 and still see some success as a rookie.
11. Minnesota: Devante Parker, WR, Louisville Might as well lock this one in. Parker is a top 5 value in most drafts and is not far behind Cooper and White, if at all. The Vikings have basically no offense with Adrian Peterson and Greg Jennings leaving town. Oh, and he was Bridgewater's security blanket in college too.
12. Cleveland: Danny Shelton, NT, Washington I think Shelton is quite overrated, and shouldn't go here. Everyone else disagrees, so I'm betting that I'm wrong. I never understood why the Browns let go Ahtyba Rubin. When a Brown gets cut and signed immediately, at higher pay, by the Seahawks, then you know someone fucked up.
13. New Orleans: Shane Ray, OLB, Missouri Stolen harder than the 2000 election. Shane Ray, despite his limitations with outright size, was unbelievably productive last season, tearing up top competition in the SEC, where he will be staying in the pros if this mock happens.
14. Miami: La’el Collins, G, LSU Miami has gone quite the line transformation. While I think Tomlinson is the clear #1 lineman, most disagree. However, Miami surprised everyone last year by smartly taking Ju'Wuan James, so maybe they do the same and get Tomlinson. It's always hard to call lineman, but with the consensus top guy falling out of the top 10, I don't think it would be hard this year.
15. Oakland from SF: Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida With their new first round spot, Oakland still gets a player so talented he would go #1 at his position in most recent drafts. I'm betting Oakland wins this draft just like they did in 2014, which is part of why I see them trading down.
16. Houston: Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State This is another pick I feel certain of if he's available. It's Waynes World as the #1 corner in this draft, and we're all just living in it.
17. Philadelphia from SD: Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California Many have been speculating that the Eagles are certain to take Agholor. I don't grade him nearly this high personally, but he's trending up and Chip Kelly is on more coke than your average Wall St exec, so why rule this out? 3 spots doesn't cost too much. Philly gives up their 3rd round choice and San Diego sends a 7th rounder.
18. Kansas City: Laken Tomlinson, G, Duke The reason Philly needed to trade up was that a receiver (maybe not Agholor, maybe so), was going to get selected (so they thought). KC actually has a great need at guard too and I think they would happily take a top player instead of reach for a need. Although, judging by how they fucked up last year, maybe I shouldn't bet on them doing the right thing.
19. Cleveland from BUF: Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami Ohio I like Ronald Darby more, but Rollins is the most talented and also the most raw. He's only played two years of football after converting from power forward on the basketball team. He was a superstar in 2014 and has a higher ceiling than Waynes, as well as being the best ballhawk in the draft outside of the Louisville.
20. San Diego from PHI: Brandon Scherff, G, Iowa San Diego traded down mostly because Todd Gurley went so early. Most have a top 10 grade on Scherff, but he was disappointing in his senior year in my opinion. His high grade is mostly on his measurable, which are impressive.
21. Cincinnati: Malcolm Brown, DT, Texas Another locked in pick based on Cincinnati being so unbalanced and having basically no one on the roster at the second DT spot. Domata Peko was one of the worst lineman in the NFL in 2014. I don't buy the rumors that they're looking at the offensive line.
22. Pittsburgh: Landon Collins, SS, Alabama Even before Troy retired, safety was the Steelers need outside of corner or pass rusher. Collins is a rare prototype of speed, tackling and coverage skill all wrapped up into one. If I ruled the world, he would go higher than this based on his talent.
23. Baltimore from DET: Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin Rumors have been flying about Baltimore and the overrated badger runningback. Since a series of teams after Detroit all need backs, I suspect the Lions trade down to let the Ravens snatch the #2 back in this class (if even). Baltimore will have to give Detroit their 1st rounder and give them back their 5th round pick that Baltimore snagged in the Ngata trade. Isn't it nice when a plan comes together?
24. Arizona: Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami Perryman is a terrific hitter who plays smarter than any interior linebacker in the class. He doesn't make an mistakes on tape and his size is the only reason he's not a top 10 pick. Small, smart, cover 2 linebacker who wears 52 and hits like a bull? Reminds me of somebody, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
25. Carolina: Andrus Peat, T, Stanford Peat has been sliding on many mocks out of the first round, while some have him in the top 10. He's not talented enough to go in round 1 in my book, but his three years starting at Stanford LT are going to get him chosen higher than he should
26. Detroit from BAL: Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State Kind of a crazy steal to get the third corner off the board at the end of round 1. It's not the Lions biggest need at all, but I think they ignore that and get the best player they can.
27. Tampa Bay from DAL: Ereck Flowers, RT, Miami Tampa Bay is going to get Flowers even if it means trading away picks. They love him, and they would love to give their depressed fan base two in state guys to build the franchise around. Tampa gives 2.02, 4.02, a 2016 5th round pick.
28. Denver: DJ Humphries, OT, Florida I don't get the need here, but everyone else is mocking Denver a LT. They have Chris Clark and Ryan Clady, so I really don't get it. Humphries is undersized to play NFL tackle, but if you put his intelligence and form in a bigger guy like Brandon Scherff, you'd have a top 10 pick.
29. Indianapolis: Arik Armstead, DE, Oregon An overrated guy in my opinion, Armstead is a round 3 value who's grade is all about his size. He is a good fit in Indy though, where the team needs lineman and plays big 5 techs, the only position Armstead even remotely looks like. Shawn Oakman is going to have this problem as well. Too slow, too raw and too big for the 4-3 when he comes out next year.
30. Green Bay: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson Green Bay's on the clock? Best defensive player left. Hand in the card and don't over think it.
31. New Orleans from SEA: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami I'm not sold on Dorsett over Devin Smith, but the media is and he's where the hype is at. I'm going with the Miami slot threat even if he's too much like Brandin Cooks to make sense for the Saints.
32. New England: Ali Marpet, G, Hobart The Pats have some surprising depth at all the positions I want to give them players. DT, OLB, DE, WR etc. I think for them to contend again next year, they should grab a talented starter who has fallen farther than he should because of his small school status.
Bonus picks:
33. Tennessee: Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State Strong broke his hand and it needs surgery. Broken hands don't help you catch the football, which explains his fall. Still, Strong's rare combination of clean routes over the middle and ability on the outside is just what Tennessee needs to replace another underrated guy in Nate Washington.
34. Dallas from TB: Carl Davis, DT, Iowa I was going to mock Davis to Dallas where they were picking. Then I thought, Dallas will take advantage since most guys are scared by the character problems. Rip off Tampa Bay and get they guy you want plus some picks.
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Post by Juggs on Apr 16, 2015 22:15:16 GMT -5
The rest of the picks will come out over the next few days. Sorry for the misleading title. I need more time to fix some problems with rounds 2-7
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Apr 16, 2015 22:30:05 GMT -5
What the fuck are you smoking...holy shit. Agholor?? In the first. Via trade UP? laff.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Apr 16, 2015 23:01:57 GMT -5
I'd have to say that'd be a no go with Collins. He's a good box safety but he doesn't provide value for the Steelers there as they need coverage ability and have 3 safeties that could step in at ss at any given time and do a solid to good job, while FS is still in the air with Mitchell bring the only player that should be a starter there, with Allen as a back up. I don't see why Shamarko Thomas wouldn't be give the opportunity to start at SS.
Also the Steelers would likely take Peters in this scenario, or I'm really hoping for Diggy, but they have only had a combine interview with him for now.
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