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Post by Morkim on May 29, 2014 15:52:53 GMT -5
There are genocides going on in Myanmar and Sudan. There are millions of people in central Africa who may die due to lack of clean food and water. And yet, somehow, Alex Smith (who, for the record, has never been a top-tier QB in his entire career) isn't making enough money. BS. lol oh FFS. I hate everything about this sort of response. Do I think 18 million is too much to pay Smith? Yes. Do I think his pay scale should at all be based on world hunger or lack of world peace? GTFO. Everyone who eats and makes a suitable living but doesn't send money overseas should be ashamed of themselves. How do these guys live with the guilt of making so much money?? |
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Post by 999Bronco on May 29, 2014 15:56:57 GMT -5
Poor Chiefs. I almost feel bad for them. Well they are the best team in the AFC West. Based on what, your bias? |
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Post by DPNormanReturns on May 29, 2014 16:26:58 GMT -5
There are genocides going on in Myanmar and Sudan. There are millions of people in central Africa who may die due to lack of clean food and water. And yet, somehow, Alex Smith (who, for the record, has never been a top-tier QB in his entire career) isn't making enough money. BS. lol oh FFS. I hate everything about this sort of response. Do I think 18 million is too much to pay Smith? Yes. Do I think his pay scale should at all be based on world hunger or lack of world peace? GTFO. Everyone who eats and makes a suitable living but doesn't send money overseas should be ashamed of themselves. How do these guys live with the guilt of making so much money?? I do want to say, before I go ahead with my response, that there were numerous ways to express your feelings on the subject without being condescending. I am not at all innocent of that sort of thing (ask EagleDomiKnation, whom I have owed an apology for quite some time) but I hope you realize no one likes it, and I imagine it does nothing good for the community. My point is one which has been made before, and one which I correctly figured wouldn't be accepted in a football forum, but its essence is that, in my humble opinion, professional athletes are paid vastly too much. My mentions of world crises were intended to emphasize this point by showing that it is clear that Alex Smith, or any other professional athlete, does not need this sort of money, especially considering the many millions of people in this world who could use it. |
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Post by patriotsk1d on May 29, 2014 16:39:41 GMT -5
Well they are the best team in the AFC West. Based on what, your bias? No, based on the fact that they are just simply a far better football team. They have the best defense in the west, second best QB( behind Rivers ), best RB. Denver has a better receiving core, but thats about it. |
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Post by Morkim on May 29, 2014 16:44:31 GMT -5
lol oh FFS. I hate everything about this sort of response. Do I think 18 million is too much to pay Smith? Yes. Do I think his pay scale should at all be based on world hunger or lack of world peace? GTFO. Everyone who eats and makes a suitable living but doesn't send money overseas should be ashamed of themselves. How do these guys live with the guilt of making so much money?? I do want to say, before I go ahead with my response, that there were numerous ways to express your feelings on the subject without being condescending. I am not at all innocent of that sort of thing (ask EagleDomiKnation, whom I have owed an apology for quite some time) but I hope you realize no one likes it, and I imagine it does nothing good for the community. My point is one which has been made before, and one which I correctly figured wouldn't be accepted in a football forum, but its essence is that, in my humble opinion, professional athletes are paid vastly too much. My mentions of world crises were intended to emphasize this point by showing that it is clear that Alex Smith, or any other professional athlete, does not need this sort of money, especially considering the many millions of people in this world who could use it. No, that isn't what you said. You didn't say all pro athletes are overpaid. You said "And yet, somehow, Alex Smith (who, for the record, has never been a top-tier QB in his entire career) isn't making enough money. BS." intentional or not, you implied it's okay for elite QBs to seek elite QB money. And for that matter, I don't think athletes are overpaid. Do they make tons of money just playing a game? Yes. But how much money do their teams make? It's a drop in the bucket. So are you saying we, as fans, are in the wrong for supporting sports instead of poverty and hunger? Because it's not the athletes fault the money is there. And it's human nature to try and get as much as you can. |
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Post by DPNormanReturns on May 29, 2014 16:47:06 GMT -5
Based on what, your bias? No, based on the fact that they are just simply a far better football team. They have the best defense in the west, second best QB( behind Rivers ), best RB. Denver has a better receiving core, but thats about it. That might be true, but I'd be very reluctant to call them "far better" based on their offseason and their talent. They lost twice to Denver last year, and the Broncos were inarguably the AFC's best team. And you're saying Alex Smith is, at this point, better than Peyton Manning? It's not impossible to foresee next year being the year that Manning's age really catches up with him, but that's purely speculation, and until that happens, almost all evidence from the last year or two suggests that Denver is still a couple strides ahead of not just the west but possibly the whole conference. |
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Post by DPNormanReturns on May 29, 2014 16:56:45 GMT -5
I do want to say, before I go ahead with my response, that there were numerous ways to express your feelings on the subject without being condescending. I am not at all innocent of that sort of thing (ask EagleDomiKnation, whom I have owed an apology for quite some time) but I hope you realize no one likes it, and I imagine it does nothing good for the community. My point is one which has been made before, and one which I correctly figured wouldn't be accepted in a football forum, but its essence is that, in my humble opinion, professional athletes are paid vastly too much. My mentions of world crises were intended to emphasize this point by showing that it is clear that Alex Smith, or any other professional athlete, does not need this sort of money, especially considering the many millions of people in this world who could use it. No, that isn't what you said. You didn't say all pro athletes are overpaid. You said "And yet, somehow, Alex Smith (who, for the record, has never been a top-tier QB in his entire career) isn't making enough money. BS." intentional or not, you implied it's okay for elite QBs to seek elite QB money. And for that matter, I don't think athletes are overpaid. Do they make tons of money just playing a game? Yes. But how much money do their teams make? It's a drop in the bucket. So are you saying we, as fans, are in the wrong for supporting sports instead of poverty and hunger? Because it's not the athletes fault the money is there. And it's human nature to try and get as much as you can. I did imply that as a non-elite QB, Smith should be relegated to receiving non-elite QB-type salaries. However, that was not intended to be my main point, and it was put in parentheses for that reason. I wish to ask you a question, then. Ideally, do you agree that those who deserve the money most should receive the most money? If you say yes, then, in order to reconcile that with your belief that athletes deserve their high salaries, you are going to have to argue that any wealthy professional athlete deserves all the money he/she makes. Aren't there many, many millions of people who deserve this money more than professional athletes? |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 17:06:22 GMT -5
How can the Chiefs be the best in the AFC West? They were 2-4 last year against the west. Only beat the Raiders.
I know, I know they played their second string the whole game against the Chargers on the last game of regular season. So they could rest their starters, how did that work out for them? Bad coaching move if you ask me.
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Post by Morkim on May 29, 2014 17:23:25 GMT -5
No, that isn't what you said. You didn't say all pro athletes are overpaid. You said "And yet, somehow, Alex Smith (who, for the record, has never been a top-tier QB in his entire career) isn't making enough money. BS." intentional or not, you implied it's okay for elite QBs to seek elite QB money. And for that matter, I don't think athletes are overpaid. Do they make tons of money just playing a game? Yes. But how much money do their teams make? It's a drop in the bucket. So are you saying we, as fans, are in the wrong for supporting sports instead of poverty and hunger? Because it's not the athletes fault the money is there. And it's human nature to try and get as much as you can. I did imply that as a non-elite QB, Smith should be relegated to receiving non-elite QB-type salaries. However, that was not intended to be my main point, and it was put in parentheses for that reason. I wish to ask you a question, then. Ideally, do you agree that those who deserve the money most should receive the most money? If you say yes, then, in order to reconcile that with your belief that athletes deserve their high salaries, you are going to have to argue that any wealthy professional athlete deserves all the money he/she makes. Aren't there many, many millions of people who deserve this money more than professional athletes? And let me start with: Alex's contract is about to be up. He's not stuck in a contract just looking for more money. He's looking at the next contract. And he wasn't comparing his salary to Manning or Rodgers. He was seeking Cutler money. And while Cutler was overpaid, Alex is on the same tier as Cutler. Athletes have a skill set that people pay to see. They're paid to use their skill set. Why would anyone deserve the money more than the guy using his skill set for compensation? Are there people more deserving of that wealth? Maybe. Why are the athletes not deserving? but as far as athletes, that's not how sports works anyway. If athletes make less, owners just make more. Are we, the fans, as I said in the wrong for supporting sports instead of poverty? |
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Post by Morkim on May 29, 2014 17:27:02 GMT -5
How can the Chiefs be the best in the AFC West? They were 2-4 last year against the west. Only beat the Raiders. I know, I know they played their second string the whole game against the Chargers on the last game of regular season. So they could rest their starters, how did that work out for them? Bad coaching move if you ask me. I'm not going to argue the Charger games Craig. You guys won, good for you. (Lost to the Redskins, but that's another story) But how can you call it a bad coaching move? Are you implying our injuries were tied into sitting out a week? Bc if that's true maybe top seeded teams should take a dive to avoid a playoff bye? |
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