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Post by Morkim on Feb 12, 2014 14:26:39 GMT -5
I think now would be the time to move this thread in the religion/politics section, It has been for days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 14:33:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the debate saskabronco I know I can always count on you. But you know Im right.
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Post by saskabronco on Feb 12, 2014 14:40:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the debate saskabronco I know I can always count on you. But you know Im right. Still like ya buddy. I enjoyed the discussion. Couldn't disagree with you more, but absolutely no hard feelings
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Feb 12, 2014 15:09:04 GMT -5
I think now would be the time to move this thread in the religion/politics section, It has been for days. I guess I didn't realize it lol. I only use the participated and new topic buttons now
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 15:12:46 GMT -5
I guess I didn't realize it lol. I only use the participated and new topic buttons now yeah, i didn't notice it either. i use new topics for everything here.
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Post by Morkim on Feb 12, 2014 15:15:26 GMT -5
I guess I didn't realize it lol. I only use the participated and new topic buttons now Page 15, MO posted he moved it. Looking back, it seemed like it'd been longer ago. lol, only been 2 days.
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 15:17:06 GMT -5
I guess I didn't realize it lol. I only use the participated and new topic buttons now Page 15, MO posted he moved it. Looking back, it seemed like it'd been longer ago. lol, only been 2 days. lol I even liked the post too. I guess I read it wrong (ie: it has turned from Sam into a religion thread, not that he was moving it to that section).
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Post by rey713 on Feb 12, 2014 19:51:05 GMT -5
Marriage isn't really sacred, at least not any more. With people constantly getting divorced, cheating on each other, and other such crap is it honestly sacred? Also marriage predates Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the Bible by a good long time so marriage doesn't really come from the Bible. From god.. well a case can be made that everything comes from god so I can't really argue that. But in my eyes marriage is a creation of man. Also why isn't two gay people getting married not sacred? To me nothing is more sacred than two people who love each other enough to want to commit the rest of their lives to each whether man and woman, man and man or woman and woman! The argument "Because it says in the bible" isn't enough because not all marriage is about the bible! I by all means agree that a christian wedding for them is out of the question. If Christianity doesn't want them as a part of it than that's its prerogative. However what about marriage without religion? what about a pagan marriage? Marriage predates the bible so the bible doesn't have the only claim to it! Your points from earlier are all good. I appreciate your demeanor as well. I guess we can just agree it boils down to our own beliefs. -- As for marriage, it's value has decreased because of society. It's a "I can do whatever I want, and people can't tell me nothin" society. Just because people are douchebags and cheat on their spouses doesn't take away from the actual marriage arrangement (in general, not that particular failed marriage). But I'll leave it at that lol.
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Post by rey713 on Feb 12, 2014 20:05:38 GMT -5
I explained the one about the fall of Jerusalem to the Romans that Jesus foretold, yet you didn't accept that one because you think Jesus' words in the gospel of Luke were just added in and written AFTER 70 CE (during the siege of Jerusalem). Considering that "Acts", the SECOND of Luke's writings, was written before the siege of Rome as well, how could an earlier piece be written afterwards? The majority of scholars believe that Luke's gospel was written after 75 CE. Only a small minority believe otherwise. Acts is thought to have been written between 50 and 150 CE. And the reasoning that many people use to state this, is the there are certain things written that may coincide with certain events from earlier on (prior to 70 CE and the fall of Jerusalem), however the fact that many new testament writings are deemed to share a common original source 'Q', explains how certain events that take place come from an earlier source, yet much of what is written seems to come from later. I am not saying that you are wrong, I am saying you have zero proof that you are right. What you provide is not proof, it is speculation based on your own personal faith, but many, many people find flaws in those theories. What's your (or science's) idea on who the first "man" was? The snake wasn't just a snake, it was Satan the Devil using it like a puppet. Incest was necessary for Noah's offspring for obvious reasons. And everything didn't just "fall into place". It was designed that way by the Creator. It's a perfect distance away from the Sun with an atmosphere that supports life. Where you keep running into problems here Rey is your insistence on making assumptions. Science doesn't claim to have all the answers like Religion does. Science is constantly asking questions and looking for answers, and for every answer they find, they find more questions. No one knows who the first man was. Based on how the theory of human evolution works, there wasn't a 'first man', there was a very slow drawn out process where primates started evolving and developing more 'human-like' features. If we had the luxury of analyzing every single creature that ever existed on the planet, we might be able to make a distinction as to precisely when the evolution chain started being a 'man' rather than a primate, but sadly we don't have that luxury. Scientists study what remains they can find and they put the pieces together the best they can, like a puzzle missing 90% of the pieces. Explain something to me then, if you think the theories put forth about the earth's history are so absurd. How do you explain dinosaur fossils? They aren't mentioned in the bible and they are millions of years old. Why did God put them there? I guess that's why it's called faith, my friend. As for your last question, the Bible does not have specific answers to this question. According to Genesis, animals were created during the fifth and sixth creative periods or "days". If the Hebrew expression translated “great sea monsters” includes dinosaurs, this would mean that dinosaurs were created on the fifth "day". (I'm putting 'day' in quotes because they are not literal days)Genesis 1:20,21And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good." It's not proven that they continued to exist until man was created (toward the close of the sixth “day”). At the very LATEST they probably disappeared off the earth at the time of the flood of Noah’s day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 15:50:25 GMT -5
So Micheal Sam gets up on the podium for his presser wearing a gay pride pin. And says he would rather talk about football. I don't get it.
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