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Post by plax on Mar 7, 2014 17:44:10 GMT -5
Titans release: FS George Wilson 2.5mil NT Sammie Lee Hill $2,733,332 Why should contracts be round numbers am I right? plax when can we sign replacements and get up to 53? after the draft. but it will take me a while to account all of the trades and the CAP changes that occur with them. unless some people would want to help with that process, it will take a bit of time.
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Post by Juggs on Mar 7, 2014 17:49:01 GMT -5
Titans release: FS George Wilson 2.5mil NT Sammie Lee Hill $2,733,332 Why should contracts be round numbers am I right? plax when can we sign replacements and get up to 53? after the draft. but it will take me a while to account all of the trades and the CAP changes that occur with them. unless some people would want to help with that process, it will take a bit of time. If we are saying that the numbers we agreed on before the draft for rookie salaries are fine regardless of trades, then we just need to + and - veteran salaries. There weren't too many veterans traded, and there is going to be a second wave of veteran cuts, and maybe some rookie cuts as well. I'm going to start the math on veteran trades starting reverse chronologically. Have you updated team cap numbers for the releases right before the draft like Marchingon's?
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Post by Morkim on Mar 7, 2014 17:49:17 GMT -5
Titans release: FS George Wilson 2.5mil NT Sammie Lee Hill $2,733,332 Why should contracts be round numbers am I right? plax when can we sign replacements and get up to 53? after the draft. but it will take me a while to account all of the trades and the CAP changes that occur with them. unless some people would want to help with that process, it will take a bit of time. Why haven't you started yet?
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Post by plax on Mar 7, 2014 17:54:23 GMT -5
after the draft. but it will take me a while to account all of the trades and the CAP changes that occur with them. unless some people would want to help with that process, it will take a bit of time. If we are saying that the numbers we agreed on before the draft for rookie salaries are fine regardless of trades, then we just need to + and - veteran salaries. There weren't too many veterans traded, and there is going to be a second wave of veteran cuts, and maybe some rookie cuts as well. I'm going to start the math on veteran trades starting reverse chronologically. Have you updated team cap numbers for the releases right before the draft like Marchingon's? 1 - well, the rookie salaries before the draft started were just that, before the draft started. since there were draft pick trades, the CAP numbers can change for some teams. unless we are gonna not count it that is..... 2 - i did not update any CAP numbers from released players as i wanted to wait for everyone to get them in before doing it in chunks.
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Post by Juggs on Mar 7, 2014 18:04:27 GMT -5
If we are saying that the numbers we agreed on before the draft for rookie salaries are fine regardless of trades, then we just need to + and - veteran salaries. There weren't too many veterans traded, and there is going to be a second wave of veteran cuts, and maybe some rookie cuts as well. I'm going to start the math on veteran trades starting reverse chronologically. Have you updated team cap numbers for the releases right before the draft like Marchingon's? 1 - well, the rookie salaries before the draft started were just that, before the draft started. since there were draft pick trades, the CAP numbers can change for some teams. unless we are gonna not count it that is..... 2 - i did not update any CAP numbers from released players as i wanted to wait for everyone to get them in before doing it in chunks. I would recommend that we just leave rookie numbers the way they were. Double checking rookie deals will take FOREVER and besides, the rookie deals were imperfect estimates. I don't think there's any reason to waste time there. I have a question on the trade front. I'm doing it like this: Team giving the player gets the cap savings deducted from the cap Team getting the player adds the cap number, not the savings. Is that right?
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Post by plax on Mar 7, 2014 18:09:41 GMT -5
Juggsteam giving the player gets the CAP savings added team getting the player gets the base salary of that player deducted from the CAP
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Post by patriotsk1d on Mar 7, 2014 18:11:36 GMT -5
Patriots release: Steve Gregory, saving 2.85 million in cap room. Chris White, saving 645,000 in cap room Taylor Reed, saving 420,000 in cap room
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Post by Juggs on Mar 7, 2014 18:15:02 GMT -5
Juggsteam giving the player gets the CAP savings added team getting the player gets the base salary of that player deducted from the CAP got it. That's what I'm doing. plax sorry to bother you again but what's up with Corey Webster and Brandon Myers? I calculated what happens IF the Webster trade went through before that contract was voided IRL, which is what I'm assuming we're doing. Is Brandon Myers still on your team and are we going through with the Webster trade?
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Post by Juggs on Mar 7, 2014 18:32:38 GMT -5
OUCH Tampa Bay lost 4.6 million giving Mike Williams because they owed him so much dead money. Philly also lost 37k giving away Brandon Graham, but that's nothing in the NFL. I could really use 37K if the Eagles are just giving it away.
plus means "has more cap" minus means "has less cap" m means million k means thousand. The team in parentheses is where he's coming from. All numbers from OverTheCap except Corey Webster which I needed to use Spotrac since it shows the old contract details. Players that moved:
Maurkice Pouncey (PIT) to NYG PIT+$3,863,375 NYG-$1,288,375
Cullen Jenkins (NYG) to PIT NYG +$1,933,332 PIT-2.45m
James Brewer (NYG) to PIT NYG +.65m PIT-.65m
Mike Williams (TB) to NYG TB-4.6m (that's not a mistake) NYG – 1.2m
Mathias Kiwanuka (NYG) to TB NYG+1.8m TB-4.375m
Ryan Mallett (NE) to HOU NE+776,976 HOU-$776,976
Adrian Wilson (NE) to HOU NE+$1,166,666HOU-1.5m
AQ Shipley (BAL) to MIN BAL+570k MIN-570k
Delano Howell (IND) to CLE IND+570k CLE-570K
Tamba Hali (KC F-) to TB KC+$5,535,294 TB-6.25m
DaSean Jackson (PHI) to CLE PHI+6.5m CLE-10.5m
Brent Celek (PHI) to ATL PHI +4.075m ATL -4m
Nickell Roby (BUF) to GB BUF+492,666 GB-495k
Corey Webster (NYG) to ATL NYG+1m, ATL+4m
Brandon Mosley (NYG) to TB NYG+$494,854 TB-.57m
Austin Pettis (STL) to TB STL+1.389m TB-1.389m
Chris Givens (STL) to TB STL +445,743 TB-570K
Brandon Graham (PHI) to CLE PHI -37K CLE -1.6705m
Victor Butler (NO) to GB NO + 1.5m GB -1.4m
Working on releases next.
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Post by plax on Mar 7, 2014 18:44:43 GMT -5
Juggsteam giving the player gets the CAP savings added team getting the player gets the base salary of that player deducted from the CAP got it. That's what I'm doing. plax sorry to bother you again but what's up with Corey Webster and Brandon Myers? I calculated what happens IF the Webster trade went through before that contract was voided IRL, which is what I'm assuming we're doing. Is Brandon Myers still on your team and are we going through with the Webster trade? i was unaware of the voiding stuff when both moves were made. Myers was released by me, so it had the same effect the same amount of money was gained as the void. with webster, since he was dealt in a trade, we will just go through with the trade.
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