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Post by Jancey on Jun 29, 2013 19:36:48 GMT -5
Wes Welker = 94? No. Definitely shouldn't be top 5.
Fitz is getting disrespected at #6 and Julio Jones is getting disrespected at #9.
Broyles is way too low and so is Amendola
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Post by Jancey on Jun 29, 2013 19:55:29 GMT -5
And I hate to say it but Dez is too low too.
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Post by cityofchamps on Jun 29, 2013 21:21:51 GMT -5
Wes Welker = 94? No. Definitely shouldn't be top 5. Fitz is getting disrespected at #6 and Julio Jones is getting disrespected at #9. Broyles is way too low and so is Amendola Most of these guys aren't all that far off from their Madden 13 ratings at the last update. I am trying to be as accurate as possible here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2013 21:49:39 GMT -5
Tavon Austin is going to have like 99 speed, 99 agility, 99 elusiveness, 99 acceleration so I assume if he's 78 overall that he would have very low awareness
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Jun 30, 2013 1:24:30 GMT -5
Tavon Austin is going to have like 99 speed, 99 agility, 99 elusiveness, 99 acceleration so I assume if he's 78 overall that he would have very low awareness Fuckin LAFF!! this ain't college beast.....
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Jun 30, 2013 1:30:28 GMT -5
Seriously? You don't get to.the Superbowl without a good to great OL. Steelers OL was damn good until 09'. 2008 steelers O-line LT LG C RG RT Max Starks Chris Kemoeatu Justin Hartwig Darnell Stapelton Willie Colon That is not a good O-line at all.. The were 30th in the league for sacks against that year.. and they were last in the post season. 2005 The Steelers were middle of the pack. For their O-line and had Allen Faneca who was damn good. They had a decent O-line and a running game this year. Ben didn't win this superbowl for them it was their defense all the way IMO. To me post season doesn't count towards comparing who is a better QB. Mark Sanchez has better post season stats than Tony Romo do you think Sanchez is better than Romo? The Steelers started the season with Smith at left tackle, Kemoeatu at left guard, Hartwig at center, Simmons at right guard and Willie Colon at right tackle. That unit made it through the first three games of the season together until Simmons tore his Achilles in the Week 4 game against the Baltimore Ravens and he was replaced in the lineup by Stapleton. By Week 7 a back injury had forced Smith out for good and he was replaced by Starks. Luckily that was it in the way of serious injuries, as Kemoeatu, Colon and Hartwig were able to stay on the field. In fact, Kemoeatu played every snap that season despite being very banged up by the time the Super Bowl rolled around. In all, the Steelers were only forced to use three different starting lineups that season and they had the same starting five from the sixth game on. Simmons and Smith were both gone after the season, and Stapleton was placed on injured reserve prior to the start of the 2009 season, his last in Pittsburgh, with a knee injury suffered during the first week of training camp. Any Oline that can stick together for that long and drive an offense to an SB is good. Sanchez had a great Defense, as did Trent dilfer, as did Ben, Flaccos Defense was average and old. Tsuggs was barely healty, reed and Lewis were shells of themselves, you can talk about how lucky Flacco was...but luck got him 11 tds and 0 picks in the post season...very good qb play. Flacco was a better QB than Ben LAST YEAR....and should be projected to be this year also.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Jun 30, 2013 1:35:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate to say it too...Dez should be top 5-6. Guy is a monster. Like the rest though. Wes Welker definitely top 5-10. #'s don't lie and with an even better qb throwing too him, he should put up better #'s.(yes, Manning's better)
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Post by TonOdanK on Jun 30, 2013 14:28:05 GMT -5
Injury has to play into account as well. Flacco can be average all he wants in the Reg season but when It counts he was one of the best QB's in history when it counted and you can not deny that. Ben is worthless when he's hurt...and it seems he's hurt more often every season. Flacco is better right now. Injury does play into an account, but Ben is still better.. Injury doesn't matter in Madden ratings it doesn't go against the overall. Ben is the better QB, and there for deserves to be rated so in Madden. Over the last 4 years, Ben has begun to put up stats and carry his team. Flacco, is where Ben was early in his career, a mediocre QB who was lucky enough to be on a very good Ravens team. I can deny that.. He wasn't anywhere near as good as people keep saying he was! The majority of his stats in the post season were big plays made by his WRs. He did just enough to look good, but he wasn't playing as amazing as people continue to say. I can picture at least 3 time off the top of my head where Boldin saved his ass from getting picked off, two of which would have been going for a TD the other way. I can think of at least twice where he under threw deep routes, one of which should have been picked off and should have lead to the Broncos going to the AFC div championship, had Rahim Moore not made one of the worst defensive plays I have ever seen that game would have ended differently. Had Flacco thrown the ball well Rahim Moore would have had 0 chance of getting to it. His O-line played absolutely stellar in the playoffs, I watched Von Miller reek havoc with every QB he played against in the regular season, some how the Ravens O-line shut him down all game. Flacco is not as good as everyone thinks he is.. He isn't anywhere near a top 5 QB, his regular season stats show that every year. And just because his team got hot and made him look a hell of a lot better than he actually played. and for the record I was cheering for the Ravens all playoffs minus the superbowl where I couldn't choose who I wanted to win. I am not a Flacco hater I actually like Flacco I am just tired of him being extremely over rated.. (This will be my last post on this subject cause I don't wanna hijack COC's thread and make it a Flaccos thread) Agree about Boldin. He was the MVP for the Ravens during the playoffs, some of the catches he had were amazing. If it weren't for him they wouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl, let alone win it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 18:19:22 GMT -5
Tavon Austin is going to have like 99 speed, 99 agility, 99 elusiveness, 99 acceleration so I assume if he's 78 overall that he would have very low awareness Fuckin LAFF!! this ain't college beast..... LOL, well his stats have to be close to or better than DJax's
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Post by steeldevil on Jul 2, 2013 12:55:54 GMT -5
The "flacco is better than Ben" ideas that are popping up all the sudden really make me laugh.
Let him play well for another 3 or so years thn maybe tht discussion can start.
Can't wait for the season to start. Offseason getting boring.
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