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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 17:42:26 GMT -5
www.cnbc.com/id/100829407Now they're on an equal playing field with Sony, except it's still $100 more. What am I getting out of the One that makes it better than the PS4 and worth the 100 dollars?
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jun 20, 2013 1:36:59 GMT -5
Don't forget that the xbone is 30-50% less powerful as well, and requires the kinect to always be on. Oh, and out of the 8 gigs of memory, 3.5 or so is dedicated to the OS alone. Was funny they were trying to say the cloud would make up for that... when none of us have that great of an internet connection to handle playing a full HD game like that off of another server. I think 500 m/bs would be required to even start running a next gen game from a secondary server, much less the full graphics and AI functions.
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Post by cantonhall34 on Jun 20, 2013 2:32:31 GMT -5
Don't forget that the xbone is 30-50% less powerful as well, and requires the kinect to always be on. Oh, and out of the 8 gigs of memory, 3.5 or so is dedicated to the OS alone. Was funny they were trying to say the cloud would make up for that... when none of us have that great of an internet connection to handle playing a full HD game like that off of another server. I think 500 m/bs would be required to even start running a next gen game from a secondary server, much less the full graphics and AI functions. !!!
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Post by nflfootball11 on Jun 20, 2013 11:28:03 GMT -5
My worry is that on release days for big games, it will be impossible to play because the servers will be overloaded, just imagine how difficult it will be to play in the first week of XBOX One. But I wonder how the CPU will handle, apparently the XBOX One is basically a computer, that can game as well. Which I suppose would bring in more games that are only PC/XBOX One compatible since programmers won't have to convert code from PC, where most games are made, into a different format in the PS4. Don't forget that the xbone is 30-50% less powerful as well, That isn't completely true, the CPU of the XBOX One is more powerful than the CPU of the PS4, the PS4 CPU is less powerful but is better suited for graphics and such since the CPU and GPU are combined in a APU I believe. I'm not positive if Mircosoft has release the specs for their GPU, so you can't compare the graphics yet. But I do beleive the PS4 graphics will be better.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jun 20, 2013 15:51:54 GMT -5
My worry is that on release days for big games, it will be impossible to play because the servers will be overloaded, just imagine how difficult it will be to play in the first week of XBOX One. But I wonder how the CPU will handle, apparently the XBOX One is basically a computer, that can game as well. Which I suppose would bring in more games that are only PC/XBOX One compatible since programmers won't have to convert code from PC, where most games are made, into a different format in the PS4. Don't forget that the xbone is 30-50% less powerful as well, That isn't completely true, the CPU of the XBOX One is more powerful than the CPU of the PS4, the PS4 CPU is less powerful but is better suited for graphics and such since the CPU and GPU are combined in a APU I believe. I'm not positive if Mircosoft has release the specs for their GPU, so you can't compare the graphics yet. But I do beleive the PS4 graphics will be better. For me it's not really about the graphics as much as it is the fluidity of the game. I've never been a "graphic whore" as they call them. I don't care if a game has substandard graphics if it is good. To prove the point... I still play my snes games ps1 games and so on haha, hell I'd play zaxxon if I had it. From TechRadar
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Post by falconsfan7007 on Jun 21, 2013 13:57:20 GMT -5
www.cnbc.com/id/100829407Now they're on an equal playing field with Sony, except it's still $100 more. What am I getting out of the One that makes it better than the PS4 and worth the 100 dollars? The Kinect? Maybe the DVR features? That's my best guess.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jun 24, 2013 4:21:50 GMT -5
There is a 366 day policy rumor going around saying that Xbone will revert to the DRM always online policy one year after launch. Something in the terms of service. Until someone can actually confirm this with said ToS in hand, I can't guarantee it, but I wouldn't put it past them now.
As for the higher price, it's only the things you don't buy that you are paying for really. The HD is small, but the cloud is what makes a difference, and there is a markup to make up for the operating costs upfront. The kinect 2.0 maybe part of that, but really with what they are running and how they cut corners in Dev, I really don't think it's enough to warrant 100... if anything, even with the sensor the hardware on XB should be the one lower than sony. I think M$ also tried to think of what Sony would price theirs at and match, as they lost out on a lot of money last generation because of the lower cost vs dev time.
Always online is crap. Depending on a cloud based service in which the Xbox cannot run games in real time over the internet is crap. Not unless the Xbox is just a glorified cable box and you are actually playing it off of the cloud servers only. Even then the latency and other forms of lag would kill the experience. They also need to look at middle america, in the towns that still have top internet speeds below 1.5 mbs. For those areas where DSL is the only option and most people can't afford it. You know, I grew up poor, all of my friends around town did (it's a crappy town back home, absolutely no economy). Yet we all had games, that was our main distraction in life. And no matter what else we were lacking we bought them. So what does this new trend mean for people like me growing up, taking away one of the few pleasures they get in life...
M$ are jackasses if they do revert down the road, and sony too if they follow suit. I'll personally start a kickstarter and make a retro-gaming system (probably ps2 graphics) and make a true console again with old school style games... Bring back the type of games from SNES, Sega, N64 and PS1/2 we are missing in the current age, and the traditional style platformer and RPG... Hell if I ever get the gumption or connections I might just do that anyways and cut this next gen crap and keep gaming to what it's suppose to be, not what they are turning it into. Imagine, one console that lasts 15 years again, with new games, and continuing series over the years...
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Post by renegade on Jun 24, 2013 14:30:00 GMT -5
I'm still buying the PS4 because gaming is where it's at. I don't care about Xbox's features.
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Post by patriotsk1d on Jun 24, 2013 14:33:36 GMT -5
There is a 366 day policy rumor going around saying that Xbone will revert to the DRM always online policy one year after launch. Something in the terms of service. Until someone can actually confirm this with said ToS in hand, I can't guarantee it, but I wouldn't put it past them now. This is what concerns me the most. I am sure microsoft wouldnt be able to do this to 1st year games, however what is stopping them from adding it to future games. I currently have an xbox 360, but I have had a ps3 before. Xbox has offered a better online gaming community, however ps3 has offered me a more reliable experience. My trust in sony, and the 100 dollar price difference will lure me towards the ps4.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Jun 24, 2013 15:03:15 GMT -5
There is a 366 day policy rumor going around saying that Xbone will revert to the DRM always online policy one year after launch. Something in the terms of service. Until someone can actually confirm this with said ToS in hand, I can't guarantee it, but I wouldn't put it past them now. This is what concerns me the most. I am sure microsoft wouldnt be able to do this to 1st year games, however what is stopping them from adding it to future games. I currently have an xbox 360, but I have had a ps3 before. Xbox has offered a better online gaming community, however ps3 has offered me a more reliable experience. My trust in sony, and the 100 dollar price difference will lure me towards the ps4. Traditionally I buy both (which ever the two main consoles are, be it PS1/N64, SNES/Genesis, PS2/Gamecube, PS3,360). You can never go wrong having both, as long as they aren't screwing you over in the process. I did have the original xbox too, but not till the end of the cycle, and it was free. Not that I didn't play it and like it, just didn't get around to getting it before. If M$ were smart, they'd leave the choice out of their hands. They should make the platform both traditional and digital and let the publishers decide and keep their noses out of it. IF the publisher wants digital only game releases then let them do it, but if not, don't restrict everyone else. Also making game discs glorified versions of window installer discs is a horrid idea.
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