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Post by Jancey on Mar 28, 2013 18:19:47 GMT -5
No no...it most certainly does not say that. Some denominations believe that...like Catholics...but I don't. I think if you're a Christian, you SHOULD get baptized...but if you don't...you're not going to hell because of it... By the way...in case anyone was wondering...I'm Evangelical. yeah nevermind, thats what i sort of meant to say. christian believe in baptized. i guess saying going to hell wouldnt make sense. i think it saying "you wont go to heaven" i guess is a better wording Lol, no I believe you can go to heaven without being baptized.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 18:20:57 GMT -5
ghosts can be good or bad. same for spirits. demons are definitely bad its hard to believe in any of it unless you have been a part of it, which i have. i had no other way to explain what i saw those nights, but i ran scared for my life from something i did not know. but at the same time, i was not harmed in any way ive watched plenty ghost shows like paranormal witness, a haunting, and other stuff, so im a firm believer in it Ah, ok. I hope I never get to experience it. You are not the first person to tel me they have experienced ghosts. BTW, change your avatar, cause the Cards are going to be whooping some ASS on the 8th, 9th and 10th i didnt believe in it much until my parents told me what happened. all i can remember is them telling me that when they left my door wide open at night, it would ALWAYS shut, even if they werent any windows open in the house. and they did tell me i ran around the house at night several times without saying anything ------------ please keep baseball talk where it belongs. if you want to talk about how the reds are gonna dominate again this year, we can do it in the "Tell it like it is" thread, not here please
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 18:24:04 GMT -5
And with gay marriage... it is my belief that it is a sin just as bad as any other. Just like murder, theft, etc...and just like I think those should not be allowed. I think gay marriage should not be allowed. I love gays just like I love every other person. And I hate the sin just like I hate any other sin, my own sins included. I really didn't want to say anything about this subject, but I will say this short bit. Gay marriage is just as bad as murder? And how does gay marriage affect you in a negative way? There is nothing wrong with gay marriage. It hurts no one. Ok, it doesn't hurt anyone, but it's against many people's morals, and other people are against it because of bogus political reasons, but the main reason people are against it is because of their morals/faith. Personally, I am not a believer in marriage anyway, it means something to most people but to me it's just a title. My parents never got married but they have stuck together for over close to 30 years now. I believe that you don't need to be officially married to live life happily. However, I do think it is wrong to be gay, and it's not because of my religious beliefs. I am speaking logically... I was not designed to take it up the ass. The ass is designed to poop. Your penis is designed to be inserted into a vagina. If we were supposed to have sex with other guys we'd all have a vagina as well.
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Post by Jancey on Mar 28, 2013 18:24:39 GMT -5
Gay marriage is just as bad as murder? And how does gay marriage affect you in a negative way? There is nothing wrong with gay marriage. It hurts no one. agree with this completely. i dont believe in gay marriage, but i also dont give a damn if gays want to get married either comparing that to murder makes no sense. murder is one of the worst crimes you can do I'm not comparing it to murder. I'm saying, in my eyes, it's a sin just like any other...and if a man stole 100 bucks or if he murdered someone they're still both a sin. And if the man had not accepted Christ...both sins are the same result...see what I'm saying?
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Post by MarchingOn on Mar 28, 2013 18:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by bigd51 on Mar 28, 2013 18:43:43 GMT -5
@bigd: I didn't answer your question because dinosaurs didn't exist hundreds of millions of years ago...I don't believe they existed more than 7000-8000 years ago...10000 at the absolute most. Even though it's wrong because science has proven they existed millions of years ago, let's just say you're right about dinosaurs existing only 7,000 to 8,000 years ago. The problem with that is, the Earth has been calculated to be around 6,000 years old in biblical terms... something many, many Christians have proclaimed. Yet, you say dinosaurs existed 7,000 to 8,000 years ago. 10,000 at the most. That's still before the Earth was supposedly created by god!So even if your theory about how long ago dinosaurs existed was correct, it still doesn't explain how dinosaurs lived on a human-less Earth if Earth was supposedly created by god at the same time as man. Everything you point out is a mere belief and nothing more. You believe god exists, you believe dinosaurs went extinct only 7,000 years ago, and you still have no credible evidence that either of those beliefs are true. Now let me rephrase the question and leave the years out of it. Explain this: The bible says Earth and man were created by god at the same time... yet, dinosaurs lived on Earth before man even existed. So if god created man at the same time he created Earth, how could dinosaurs have lived on Earth if Earth supposedly hadn't been created yet by god?
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Post by xdeadlyxmirage on Mar 28, 2013 18:49:33 GMT -5
My argument as to why God exists.I come into this debate surrendering that I will convince any of you who are not theists to become one. I intend only to demonstrate that someone can have rational and logical belief in the existence of God.
Imagine if you and I sat around a box and I told you that within the box was an object, does not matter what it is but for this example we will say it is a DVD. I tell you that I saw a DVD. You then look in the box and tell me that I was lying because you see a phone in there. I can repeatably tell you that there is a DVD in there because I know it to be true with the use of my senses. You can repeatably tell me that there is a DVD in there because you know it to be true with the use of your senses. Assuming we both 100% believe what we are saying we are both going to believe our self and assume the other person is lying or mistaken. It is the same way with God. I know from my own senses that God exists. Bengalmania indicates from his own senses that Demons and Ghosts exist. There is one limitation with this, however. It cannot be used as evidence that God exists to other people due to the rightful standards of logic and science. I accept that but it still can be logically used to convince the existence of God to myself. I'll have more but I'm going to church.
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Post by xdeadlyxmirage on Mar 28, 2013 18:52:41 GMT -5
Explain this: The bible says Earth and man were created by god at the same time... yet, dinosaurs lived on Earth before man even existed. So if god created man at the same time he created Earth, how could dinosaurs have lived on Earth if Earth supposedly hadn't been created yet by god? Since you want this answered sooooo badly. The Bible is not entirely infallible and 7 days means 7 phases not time periods.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 19:01:15 GMT -5
holy smokes batman, I go to work for five hours and come back to nine pages. It'll take time to read.
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Post by bigd51 on Mar 28, 2013 19:09:21 GMT -5
Explain this: The bible says Earth and man were created by god at the same time... yet, dinosaurs lived on Earth before man even existed. So if god created man at the same time he created Earth, how could dinosaurs have lived on Earth if Earth supposedly hadn't been created yet by god? Since you want this answered sooooo badly. The Bible is not entirely infallible and 7 days means 7 phases not time periods.And you have proof of this?
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