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Post by lostabroad2 on Mar 28, 2013 0:09:50 GMT -5
Yes. We can move all the religious posts in here. I'd rather wait and let everything settle down though. I don't want to interfere with threads and posts whilst they are ongoing. Generally I like thinks to be inactive for at least 10 days before I move them. I've only just cleaned the General Discussion forum. Even then I gave threads that were active within the last 3 months a wide berth.
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Post by Shaggzfate on Mar 28, 2013 0:10:26 GMT -5
I think it will be okay plax. As long as everyone respects others and doesn't take anything as an attack. I have some to share and will later. I'm real tired tonight. You tired from carrying around your NFL FF trophy all around California today? Trying to act like those guys that when the Stanley Cup? I hope you didn't drop it and break it! No no... He's tired from carrying Larryb. Larryb was holding the trophy.
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Post by lostabroad2 on Mar 28, 2013 0:29:13 GMT -5
With regards to Bel and the Dragon from earlier on I know that the text is canon to the Catholic faith. It also isn't in the Protestant faith, which is why I specifically mentioned it. I could be wrong but i'm sure I was told that it was once part of the Protestant Bible. Catholics tend to get heat for removing text and/or deciding that something is heretical. Protestants don't seem to get the same treatment despite making more changes. Most of my issues with religious groups are not about God or traditions but the changing/removing of texts as they become inconvenient. Bel and the Dragon work well as parables regardless of someone's faith. A dragon doesn't have to mean a dragon. It can symbolize a powerful or dangerous opponent or force. Text and numbers are open to interpretation and error.
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Post by danb6177 on Mar 28, 2013 1:18:03 GMT -5
I think lost (not for sure) that both catholics and protestants agreed on that part of the book of daniel to be inconsistant with daniels writings and hence not written by a prophet. I believe this is why it is not in the protestant bible. I am pretty sure this all happened at trent but again not positive its been awhile sinceI studied the canons origin.
Catholics get the heat for removing and adding scripture because its what they did in the 1500's protestants dont remove scripture (unless you consider mormons and JW,s to be protestsnt) and they dont change scripture,what they do is interpret scripture the way they wanna sell it.
Every protestsnt denomination has a spin weather it be rapture or tongues or spirit slaying or missions. all are different in slight to large ways. Reading the same exact bible and interpreting it diferently.
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Post by Jindred on Mar 28, 2013 1:20:10 GMT -5
I harbor a lot of resentments towards Christianity.. I have worked through a lot of them to come from hating the religion to a far more accepting view were I can see the good but never want to be part of it. I still have some anger towards the religion itself so let me just state that if I am responding to something on here to do with Christianity and I go a bit to far I apologize in advance and I truly don't mean to offend!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:06:54 GMT -5
beast you said this I completely understand if I get flak for my comment, but I have my doubts. I'm a guy that will not believe something unless I know for 100% that it is true. I am very doubtful. Just a question as to what you have done to make sure its not 100% true? There's a lot more evidence that there is no deity to be honest. I would like to see that evidence MO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:14:01 GMT -5
Jancey,Plax,Shaggz....
Jancey...dont worry it will be fine. You put your beliefs forward and maybe someone will learn from you. You're a very smart dude.
Plax....I understand you think this is maybe not a good idea,but all of us are mature enough to not let anything get out of hand.
Shaggz ...Kudos to you brother. - This thread should be totally respectful of others opinions. If you feel you cant do that,then maybe just refrain from participating.
We all know politics and religion are very sensitive subjects,so as adults should be sensitive to each other in this regard.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:21:28 GMT -5
Two very interesting quotes from a website I visited.
Joe said (January 20, 2012):
Having struggled with the notion of good and evil for close to 80 years, I can imagine many people would greatly cherish a satisfying answer to this seemingly unanswerable question: Why would a perfect Creator God allow evil to exist in a universe that has a potential for making every sentient creature in it a king; without the need for evil?
The Devil, as Al Pacino depicted him is, of course, absolutely correct in his argument concerning God's apparent "absentee landlord" status. He (the Devil) also has figured out mankind's psyche to the enth degree. We are all slaves to our own world view on the one hand and on the other hand we are so ignorant of the fact that we have been manipulated by forces unseen into believing our own world views are uniquely correct.
David said (January 20, 2012):
I often tell people I see evil all around and they think I’m paranoid. I tell them that what passes for civilization is actually just a sophisticated barbarian regime. Satan always tempts us to think we can do better, live better, than God provides us in His nature. When temptation fails, and we say NO to Satan, he strives to instill fear with intimidating tactics. Temptation, chaos, confusion, doubt and fear are Satan’s only tools, and when we pick them up to use, we use them against our own well-being. These tools divide us against ourselves, make us un-whole, unwholesome, unholy, separated from the love of God as well as the love of neighbors and even ourselves. These tools make us unhappy, unhealthy, and unholy, lead us to despair, destruction, and death in a dysfunctional world. Just say NO!
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Post by MarchingOn on Mar 28, 2013 12:26:42 GMT -5
There's a lot more evidence that there is no deity to be honest. I would like to see that evidence MO. Well, I mean there is no proof he exists.. Like Dan said, it's just faith that he is real..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:32:45 GMT -5
I would like to see that evidence MO. Well, I mean there is no proof he exists.. Like Dan said, it's just faith that he is real.. Is there proof that he doesnt exist?
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