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Post by Morkim on Apr 11, 2016 16:50:24 GMT -5
What is dubbed and photo shopped? The video of John Oliver. You think the guy in the wall suit was real? And the kid he holds up? Also at first when he talks about "the Trump wall" not his voice. Most of the discussion was about the fence that Bush, Hillary, and Obama did years ago. I'm sure there are some valid points he makes but I would not take him as a great news source. And the pygmy owls were cute. I didn't look into the voice faking thing because it all sounded like Trump to me. Can you tell me which part exactly is faked? Or are you assuming all the clips where Trump talked was fake? And the wall suit dude was a real guy at a Trump thing. Here's a link... Trump's wall guyHere's a video of the kid: I don't think anyone thinks he's an end all be all news source. But he does show how ridiculous the idea of a wall is. And he proves that "the wall" is not code for tightening up the border. It's a literal wall...
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 20:57:12 GMT -5
haha I love the kid video. I was wrong about that. But I still don't think the wall guy is real. And the voice in about the third or forth thing is not Trump voice. The one where he uses his hands a lot and says something about putting his name on the wall. It sounds like a jewish guy.
Edit. I just checked the sniplets up to about forty seconds in are mostly fake. Especially the last one. Not news, comedy!
And it was Saska who said he is a great news source.
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Post by saskabronco on Apr 11, 2016 21:00:01 GMT -5
What is dubbed and photo shopped? The video of John Oliver. You think the guy in the wall suit was real? And the kid he holds up? Also at first when he talks about "the Trump wall" not his voice. Most of the discussion was about the fence that Bush, Hillary, and Obama did years ago. I'm sure there are some valid points he makes but I would not take him as a great news source. And the pygmy owls were cute. Really? Dubbed and photoshopped? Those are real press conferences and speeches by Trump. You shared a video that shows Trump talking about border security and building the wall only in sections, but the problem is that he has no consistency in what he says. That's why Oliver showed him constantly change his projected costs. He can't keep his own story straight, so how can you trust that he's even going to do what he says at all? Notice also that at the end of the video you shared, as soon as someone asked him what he was going to do with illegals already here he just deflected the question and then left. The guy doesn't have a plan... He's just riding the wave of saying shit the crazy people want to hear. It's a gong show and it's pathetic that he's garnered any support, let alone enough to be leading.
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Post by saskabronco on Apr 11, 2016 21:03:05 GMT -5
haha I love the kid video. I was wrong about that. But I still don't think the wall guy is real. And the voice in about the third or forth thing is not Trump voice. The one where he uses his hands a lot and says something about putting his name on the wall. It sounds like a jewish guy. It was all Trump. And even if one little video was dubbed (which it wasn't), how would that make any difference with the multitude of other video clips showing him saying the exact same garbage? Rather than addressing one of the many strong points made against Trump, you just claim that one video was dubbed (out of like 30 clips) and one was probably photoshopped. Take those two out and the argument Oliver makes still holds up 100%.
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 21:09:21 GMT -5
The video of John Oliver. You think the guy in the wall suit was real? And the kid he holds up? Also at first when he talks about "the Trump wall" not his voice. Most of the discussion was about the fence that Bush, Hillary, and Obama did years ago. I'm sure there are some valid points he makes but I would not take him as a great news source. And the pygmy owls were cute. Really? Dubbed and photoshopped? Those are real press conferences and speeches by Trump. You shared a video that shows Trump talking about border security and building the wall only in sections, but the problem is that he has no consistency in what he says. That's why Oliver showed him constantly change his projected costs. He can't keep his own story straight, so how can you trust that he's even going to do what he says at all? Notice also that at the end of the video you shared, as soon as someone asked him what he was going to do with illegals already here he just deflected the question and then left. The guy doesn't have a plan... He's just riding the wave of saying shit the crazy people want to hear. It's a gong show and it's pathetic that he's garnered any support, let alone enough to be leading. I posted and edited right before this. Show me where the wall guy is real. Show me a video of it that is not photo shopped for comedy. John Oliver is funny, but not to be trusted as a "great news source" You will get dubbed and photo shopped. The end of the video I shared shows him leaving like you said. But all things must end. It was time to go. He has said a thousand times what he wants to do with illegals already here. How many times do you need to hear it? I think his plan to deport them is ridiculous by the way. But don't tell me dodged the question. That statement is ridiculous. He never dodges any thing. He will stick his foot in his mouth before he afraid of the question.
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 21:14:37 GMT -5
You are so angry Saska. It's okay for someone to question what you say. I am not a Trump supporter as I have said. I take this side to make a discussion. Without my input we all would be sitting around singing kumbyya. I think Trump is crazy. But I think Hillary is a criminal. I think Bernie is a good guy who's senile. I think Cruz is a fake. The only guy I kind of like is Kasaik.
Bottom line is we are screwed. But we have been screwed before. And we survive. That is the American way.
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Post by Morkim on Apr 11, 2016 21:15:55 GMT -5
Really? Dubbed and photoshopped? Those are real press conferences and speeches by Trump. You shared a video that shows Trump talking about border security and building the wall only in sections, but the problem is that he has no consistency in what he says. That's why Oliver showed him constantly change his projected costs. He can't keep his own story straight, so how can you trust that he's even going to do what he says at all? Notice also that at the end of the video you shared, as soon as someone asked him what he was going to do with illegals already here he just deflected the question and then left. The guy doesn't have a plan... He's just riding the wave of saying shit the crazy people want to hear. It's a gong show and it's pathetic that he's garnered any support, let alone enough to be leading. I posted and edited right before this. Show me where the wall guy is real. Show me a video of it that is not photo shopped for comedy. John Oliver is funny, but not to be trusted as a "great news source" You will get dubbed and photo shopped. The end of the video I shared shows him leaving like you said. But all things must end. It was time to go. He has said a thousand times what he wants to do with illegals already here. How many times do you need to hear it? I think his plan to deport them is ridiculous by the way. But don't tell me dodged the question. That statement is ridiculous. He never dodges any thing. He will stick his foot in his mouth before he afraid of the question. I don't know what you mean by show you the Wall guy is real. He's really a dude who dressed up like a funny wall and showed up to a trump rally. It's not like Trump paid him to be there, or we are claiming that Trump paid the guy. He's just a funny dude who went to a Trump Rally. The point was that Trumps wall is such a big point is most of his speeches that someone made a parody of it. And I linked you to the NYPost. Just an article saying "haha this wall guy showed up to a rally". Idk what you mean by prove he's real. lol
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Post by Morkim on Apr 11, 2016 21:19:29 GMT -5
Really? Dubbed and photoshopped? Those are real press conferences and speeches by Trump. You shared a video that shows Trump talking about border security and building the wall only in sections, but the problem is that he has no consistency in what he says. That's why Oliver showed him constantly change his projected costs. He can't keep his own story straight, so how can you trust that he's even going to do what he says at all? Notice also that at the end of the video you shared, as soon as someone asked him what he was going to do with illegals already here he just deflected the question and then left. The guy doesn't have a plan... He's just riding the wave of saying shit the crazy people want to hear. It's a gong show and it's pathetic that he's garnered any support, let alone enough to be leading. I posted and edited right before this. Show me where the wall guy is real. Show me a video of it that is not photo shopped for comedy. John Oliver is funny, but not to be trusted as a "great news source" You will get dubbed and photo shopped. The end of the video I shared shows him leaving like you said. But all things must end. It was time to go. He has said a thousand times what he wants to do with illegals already here. How many times do you need to hear it? I think his plan to deport them is ridiculous by the way. But don't tell me dodged the question. That statement is ridiculous. He never dodges any thing. He will stick his foot in his mouth before he afraid of the question. Oliver has standards he has to meet man. He can parody. But he can't flat out show clips of Trump saying things Trump didn't say and pass it off as Trump saying them. Trump would sue him. Or threaten to and then not sue him. Because he does that... But no, the voices are Trump. If you do some research you can find the Trump speeches where the clips are from. I've pulled a couple of them. Not gonna bother with all of them. But it's silly to assume it's totally fake. Oliver would take too much shit for that.
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 21:19:33 GMT -5
I posted and edited right before this. Show me where the wall guy is real. Show me a video of it that is not photo shopped for comedy. John Oliver is funny, but not to be trusted as a "great news source" You will get dubbed and photo shopped. The end of the video I shared shows him leaving like you said. But all things must end. It was time to go. He has said a thousand times what he wants to do with illegals already here. How many times do you need to hear it? I think his plan to deport them is ridiculous by the way. But don't tell me dodged the question. That statement is ridiculous. He never dodges any thing. He will stick his foot in his mouth before he afraid of the question. I don't know what you mean by show you the Wall guy is real. He's really a dude who dressed up like a funny wall and showed up to a trump rally. It's not like Trump paid him to be there, or we are claiming that Trump paid the guy. He's just a funny dude who went to a Trump Rally. The point was that Trumps wall is such a big point is most of his speeches that someone made a parody of it. And I linked you to the NYPost. Just an article saying "haha this wall guy showed up to a rally". Idk what you mean by prove he's real. lol haha I did not catch the link you sent. Saw it now. I stand corrected that he was real.
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Post by craig440 on Apr 11, 2016 21:24:14 GMT -5
The voice at about twenty some seconds in is totally not trump.
edit. 31 seconds in. That loses credibility to me as a news source. Who knows how much else is fake. I do like the guy though.
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