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Post by cityofchamps on Mar 19, 2013 21:52:02 GMT -5
He made his life choices and can be aptly judged for it. His prison time was for the gambling, not the dog fights themselves. On topic: EJ Manuel is better at reading defenses, makes his reads quicker, and had more responsibilities in play calling, during college. His mobility is more of the Jay Cutler-mold, functional mobility, whereas Geno's is more of the "I'm going to try and get yards myself". For that offensive line, that somehow always struggles, EJ Manuel may be better at not getting destroyed. I still, by a great deal, think Eric Fisher is the best pick for the Eagles, with Milner the second option. Geno Smith has too many question marks and that offensive line is a weakness. (Jason Peters' metrics make him look pretty bad). Have to disagree that the Oline is a weakness, probowl caliber players at every position but RG. Geno ran plenty of hurry up where he called plays, I do think EJ's value is higher as a second rounder than Geno's as a #4 pick. Think first option is Milliner then Geno. Vick did more that enough time and paid his dues. We will see if you also reference Big ben as rapist or Ray Lewis as Murderer. Yea, the Eagles' OL was only bad because 4 of their 5 starters were injured for most of the season (Peters, Herremans, Watkins, Kelce).
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 19, 2013 21:53:52 GMT -5
Ray Lewis technically didn't kill a guy, but he retired so no references. Big Ben never raped anyone, but I do not respect his sexual assaults any more. Dog Killing is still wrong and it's not justifiable. K. Your opinion, I cant do anything about it.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 19, 2013 21:55:32 GMT -5
Have to disagree that the Oline is a weakness, probowl caliber players at every position but RG. Geno ran plenty of hurry up where he called plays, I do think EJ's value is higher as a second rounder than Geno's as a #4 pick. Think first option is Milliner then Geno. Vick did more that enough time and paid his dues. We will see if you also reference Big ben as rapist or Ray Lewis as Murderer. Yea, the Eagles' OL was only bad because 4 of their 5 starters were injured for most of the season (Peters, Herremans, Watkins, Kelce). Mathis, not Watkins...watkins has been a bust...worst 1st rd pick ever by Reid.
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Post by cityofchamps on Mar 19, 2013 22:06:21 GMT -5
Yea, the Eagles' OL was only bad because 4 of their 5 starters were injured for most of the season (Peters, Herremans, Watkins, Kelce). Mathis, not Watkins...watkins has been a bust...worst 1st rd pick ever by Reid. Evan Mathis started all 16 games last season. Watkins was injured a lot.
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Post by inoccent on Mar 19, 2013 22:15:26 GMT -5
Ray Lewis technically didn't kill a guy, but he retired so no references. Big Ben never raped anyone, but I do not respect his sexual assaults any more. Dog Killing is still wrong and it's not justifiable. And Vick served his time. Get off his ass. Donte Stallworth ran over someone and killed him and got one year if I recall. Vick got more time for killing animals then someone did for killing a human being but yet no one says anything about Stallworth
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Post by NickWorthem on Mar 19, 2013 22:21:28 GMT -5
Ray Lewis technically didn't kill a guy, but he retired so no references. Big Ben never raped anyone, but I do not respect his sexual assaults any more. Dog Killing is still wrong and it's not justifiable. And Vick served his time. Get off his ass. Donte Stallworth ran over someone and killed him and got one year if I recall. Vick got more time for killing animals then someone did for killing a human being but yet no one says anything about Stallworth I have, as well. Also, his sentence was for gambling on the fighting, not the fighting itself.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 19, 2013 22:23:47 GMT -5
Mathis, not Watkins...watkins has been a bust...worst 1st rd pick ever by Reid. Evan Mathis started all 16 games last season. Watkins was injured a lot. Sorry CoC i was referring to the Good Starters that Philly does have. Not the Injured ones. My bad.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 19, 2013 22:27:43 GMT -5
Ray Lewis technically didn't kill a guy, but he retired so no references. Big Ben never raped anyone, but I do not respect his sexual assaults any more. Dog Killing is still wrong and it's not justifiable. And Vick served his time. Get off his ass. Donte Stallworth ran over someone and killed him and got one year if I recall. Vick got more time for killing animals then someone did for killing a human being but yet no one says anything about Stallworth If Im correct i think Stallworth did 30 days at most. Paid the family 3 mil or somthing like that. Im a dog lover as well, but I know that dog fighting is very rampant in Urban areas and its naive to think that many pro athletes dont have their thumbs in it. Many people, including Vick of course, look at dogs as no more valuable than a pig, chicken, cow which are slaughtered everyday. Still feel horrible for those dogs though, but I know its always going to happen.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Mar 26, 2013 15:18:07 GMT -5
Back to the subject at hand.... I've touched on my rationale for having Geno Smith at #4... and it really has to do with the fact you can't win in this league without a star quarterback. Period. Now, that might not be Smith, but it could be him, and the Eagles never pick this high. Great players can be found all over the place; great quarterbacks can't. You have to roll the dice if he drops to you. Fortunately for those who fear Smith will be a disastrous bust, I don't think he's going to get past Oakland anyway. For Shaggz sake, I hope not.
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Post by EagleDomiKnation on Apr 3, 2013 18:04:46 GMT -5
Genos back in Philly today. Just scares me. I like him, but Jancey might be right. Fuckin jancey
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