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Post by Morkim on Feb 12, 2014 13:43:12 GMT -5
Marcus Smart is debatable. The rest is absolutely dumb. I'll be bumping this thread again when Burke is the first/second PG taken off the board. Oh yeah, forgot to bump this, so yeah. Bump. Smart didn't go pro though. So!
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 13:46:13 GMT -5
Marcus Smart is debatable. The rest is absolutely dumb. I'll be bumping this thread again when Burke is the first/second PG taken off the board. Oh yeah, forgot to bump this, so yeah. Bump. ... considering there were only two true PGs drafted in the 1st round, and the one who was picked 2nd is outplaying the one who was picked 1st (for PGs), not sure why you should be bumping. Smart would have gone before Burke.
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Post by MarchingOn on Feb 12, 2014 13:59:33 GMT -5
Oh yeah, forgot to bump this, so yeah. Bump. ... considering there were only two true PGs drafted in the 1st round, and the one who was picked 2nd is outplaying the one who was picked 1st (for PGs), not sure why you should be bumping. Smart would have gone before Burke. But is he? Jazz during Burke's injury: 1-11 Jazz after Burke's return: 17-22 17-22 obviously still isn't great, but the Jazz aren't a great team. I still think that speaks volumes though. They're much noticeably better when Burke's on the court. You can look at individual stats, which really, aren't that different between Burke and MCW, but I'll take success. Burke's making his team win, where as MCW really isn't. And it's debatable that Smart would've gone before.
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 14:02:09 GMT -5
... considering there were only two true PGs drafted in the 1st round, and the one who was picked 2nd is outplaying the one who was picked 1st (for PGs), not sure why you should be bumping. Smart would have gone before Burke. But is he? Jazz during Burke's injury: 1-11 Jazz after Burke's return: 17-22 17-22 obviously still isn't great, but the Jazz aren't a great team. I still think that speaks volumes though. They're much noticeably better when Burke's on the court. You can look at individual stats, which really, aren't that different, but Burke's making his team win, where as MCW really isn't. well, PHI is in full-on tank mode, so MCW can only do so much.
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Post by MarchingOn on Feb 12, 2014 14:08:04 GMT -5
But is he? Jazz during Burke's injury: 1-11 Jazz after Burke's return: 17-22 17-22 obviously still isn't great, but the Jazz aren't a great team. I still think that speaks volumes though. They're much noticeably better when Burke's on the court. You can look at individual stats, which really, aren't that different, but Burke's making his team win, where as MCW really isn't. well, PHI is in full-on tank mode, so MCW can only do so much. You make it sound like every player on the 6ers is tanking besides MCW. Fact is he isn't really making a difference. He puts up great numbers though, so it's okay.
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 14:17:02 GMT -5
well, PHI is in full-on tank mode, so MCW can only do so much. You make it sound like every player on the 6ers is tanking besides MCW. Fact is he isn't really making a difference. He puts up great numbers though, so it's okay. well, for one, PHI does not have a talented roster and, more importantly, a cohesive roster. Turner knows he is not coming back and does not care. Thad Young and PHI seems to be in agreement that they should separate. Hawes is trying. MCW is trying. But the rest of the roster is poorly constructed and they want to go for a top pick. The plan is to tank, get a top guy, and move forward with a MCW, Noel, rookie nucleus.
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Post by MarchingOn on Feb 12, 2014 14:27:48 GMT -5
You make it sound like every player on the 6ers is tanking besides MCW. Fact is he isn't really making a difference. He puts up great numbers though, so it's okay. well, for one, PHI does not have a talented roster and, more importantly, a cohesive roster. Turner knows he is not coming back and does not care. Thad Young and PHI seems to be in agreement that they should separate. Hawes is trying. MCW is trying. But the rest of the roster is poorly constructed and they want to go for a top pick. The plan is to tank, get a top guy, and move forward with a MCW, Noel, rookie nucleus. And the Jazz' roster is so great? I know they have a great young player with Favors, but that's honestly about it. Hayward is decent as well but eh.
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Post by plax on Feb 12, 2014 14:29:40 GMT -5
well, for one, PHI does not have a talented roster and, more importantly, a cohesive roster. Turner knows he is not coming back and does not care. Thad Young and PHI seems to be in agreement that they should separate. Hawes is trying. MCW is trying. But the rest of the roster is poorly constructed and they want to go for a top pick. The plan is to tank, get a top guy, and move forward with a MCW, Noel, rookie nucleus. And the Jazz' roster is so great? I know they have a great young player with Favors, but that's honestly about it. Hayward is decent as well but eh. I never said anything about the Jazz. But they do have a very nice core of guys in Burke/Burks/Hayward/Favors/Kanter/Gobert. Hayward is most likely gone unless UTA plans to pay him big bucks, they need to trade him and get value for him while they can. If UTA can get a top pick and then get a good vet, they can make noise next year.
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