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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 22:52:08 GMT -5
Okay so a black woman walks into a thrift store. It's in a primarily white town. The woman has a bag over her shoulder that is what she uses to take her groceries home. She has her purse in it, so its kind of open. She walks around the thrift store for about a half hour looking at stuff. She works her way back to the back end of the big store and is looking at the tank tops. A woman comes who works there, she is faking adjusting things on the shelf. She keeps a close eye on the black woman. She/they think the black woman may be steeling.
Is that racial profiling? Yes or no. First thought.
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Post by Juggs on Jun 24, 2015 23:19:15 GMT -5
From what you've written, it seems like the customer hasn't done anything that would make me think she's stealing. When you say "a woman comes who works there" I assume you mean the customer isn't the one faking the adjustments on the shelf right?
Assuming I'm reading you right, then yes, that is racial profiling since you have nothing to go on other than the customer being black.
The only slightly suspicious thing is that she's been there for a half hour. That sounds ridiculous, but in a clothing store it really isn't. Going to "the back of the store" is innocent too. If you have merchandise in the back, she would be expected to shop there.
Basically it comes down to: has she done anything to make you suspicious. It's about her behavior, not your opinion of her or anything you'd apply to others who look like her.
I acutally just had to watch a training video at work the other day on this. There's a specific guide you're supposed to follow on whether or not to tail or accuse a customer:
1. Did you see the customer go into a department without the item?
2. Did you see the customer attempt to hide the item on their person?
3. Is the customer trying to leave the store with the item still?
Unless you see ALL of those things, at least were I work, you're supposed to assume the customer is not guilty of anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 23:31:12 GMT -5
Juggs you didn't vote Your suspended until you vote. And yes I mean the employee did the fake stuff, not the Black lady. Oh and its not a clothing store, its a thrift store. Used stuff for cheap. No security or anything like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 0:07:44 GMT -5
Thirty two views and no votes. You pussies. hah
I'm trying to prove a point and educate you guys. Just vote. No one will know who you are or care. I have a good ending to this.
I want to see how people perceive things. VOTE.
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Post by saskabronco on Jun 25, 2015 0:34:47 GMT -5
There is more to this than a simple yes or no. Are there white people in the store as well acting similar to the black woman? If there are white people there as well, doing the same thing the black lady is doing, then yes it is profiling. But if the employee reacts the same way for every person doing those actions, then no it would not be. Does that make me racist?
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Post by saskabronco on Jun 25, 2015 0:44:25 GMT -5
Add a third option of "Not enough information provided to reach a viable decision" and a lot more people will vote. We're not all going to fall into the trap of making a decision in haste without all the facts presented to us.
Either option to answer that you have provided is more or less a trap. If you say yes, then you are assuming racism without knowing all the details. If you say no, you are assuming no racism without all the details.
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Post by Jindred on Jun 25, 2015 0:48:08 GMT -5
From your story I would say yes it is. In the story nothing you say makes it sound like she is doing anything suspicious. However as has been stated I am going off very minimal information.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 1:01:14 GMT -5
I can't add another option it won't let me. So I will try and add more info. This is a true story so its easy to answer your questions.
There were a few other customers there. All white. The employees were white. The employee that was "checking the Black woman" out kind of followed her after that. Fixing stuff on the shelves. The black lady picked out a tank top, and bought it. And left.
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Post by Jindred on Jun 25, 2015 1:08:05 GMT -5
So was she doing anything suspicious to draw the attention? That is really the only way to answer this properly, is to know if she was doing something suspicious or if she was just acting like any other shopper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 1:14:48 GMT -5
I guess they thought she was suspicious. That was the first time she had been there. She went back about a month later. They remembered her. She bought a few things and the cashier was the same one who was fallowing her. She said "did that tank top fit?" The black lady said "yes, you remember that?" The cashier said "we remember all our regulars"
The black lady said " This is my second time here?"
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