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Post by cityofchamps on Jan 27, 2015 0:05:15 GMT -5
Of course I haven't seen the video. No one has, at least not the public. NFL.com (which is an affiliate of the NFL itself) has reported Jay Glazer's own FoxSports report. However, if the report is true, then the NFL has the video and has seen it if the details of the video has already leaked to the public. If there wasn't enough validity to the report, then NFL.com would post it up there. The report states that the locker room attendant was caught on camera taking the balls to another part of the stadium that wasn't the field. I am just a messenger here. That is what the report states. They aren't allowed to take the balls anywhere else to the stadium while they are moving them from the official's locker room to the field. The implications of the report make the claim that the attendant took the balls from the locker room and then to another room that was not part of the route to the field. As for Kraft, Belichick and Brady acting "confident"? They seem more defiant than confident to me. I will admit that there is a very good chance, if not every chance that Kraft is innocent in all of this and that he is simply defending in his employees, whom he trusts. However, Belichick threw Tom Brady under the bus with his statement, and then Tom Brady threw the NFL under the bus with his statement. Their denials were no more than trying to pass the buck onto someone else before it got too ugly and understandably so since this can easily distract a team, especially in the biggest game of the year in the Super Bowl. If I was confident I was innocent in something, I wouldn't actively try to prove my innocents before the investigation was finished. I wouldn't spend so much of my time trying to calm this down as the Patriots have (with Belichick and Brady having their own separate, individual press conferences to address the situation). If Tom Brady did nothing, he shouldn't have to answer any questions about this. If Bill Belichick did nothing, I would have expected a simple statement to the media that he will let due process sort this out and is only focused on the Super Bowl. They are visibly rattled by this. There is enough evidence against them that they have to spend this much time and energy focusing on this. I think that speaks to some level of guilty conscience whether it be direct, or indirect. NFL.com is just as good as ESPN or any other news site. The video claims the employee took the ball to a bathroom on the way to the field for less than 90 seconds. I am not going to spend my time reposting what I have already said in the other thread. Belichick didnt throw Brady under the bus. That whole set of speeches was set up perfectly. If Belichick really threw Brady under the bus Brady would still be dealing with these questions, which isnt the case. Belichick set Brady up to make his speech and then did a follow up speech with his own personal investigation the following day, putting all of the heat back on himself. Kraft did his speech today taking almost all of the pressure off Belichick. Where is your source that says it was in less than 90 seconds?
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Post by patriotsk1d on Jan 27, 2015 0:11:59 GMT -5
NFL.com is just as good as ESPN or any other news site. The video claims the employee took the ball to a bathroom on the way to the field for less than 90 seconds. I am not going to spend my time reposting what I have already said in the other thread. Belichick didnt throw Brady under the bus. That whole set of speeches was set up perfectly. If Belichick really threw Brady under the bus Brady would still be dealing with these questions, which isnt the case. Belichick set Brady up to make his speech and then did a follow up speech with his own personal investigation the following day, putting all of the heat back on himself. Kraft did his speech today taking almost all of the pressure off Belichick. Where is your source that says it was in less than 90 seconds? I misspoke, 90 seconds not less than. Not that it makes any difference, since 89.99 seconds is the exact same thing as what I said. Here is the story profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/26/video-shows-employee-taking-24-balls-into-bathroom/
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Post by cityofchamps on Jan 27, 2015 1:20:24 GMT -5
He carried 2 bags of balls into the bathroom? Well if he didn't take them in to tamper with them, then I am Ronald Reagan. If you believe that report from Pro Football Talk, then it is clear that this guy tampered with the footballs if he took them into the bathroom (why else would a locker room attendant take footballs into the bathroom?). Technically, the article is also misleading in one small, grammar-centered way that my OCD has to point out. The article says it was deflated by two pounds. He forgot to add the "per square inch" to the end so as not to confuse ignorant people into thinking the balls weighed 2 pounds less than they were supposed to lol. Since you pointed this report out, you obviously believe in it so as to question if he actually had time. Since we both now agree that this attendant took the balls into a separate room away from both the field and the officials' locker room (in this case, the bathroom), and if you believe the msn report that only 10 of the balls were under inflated to 1 psi per square inch, then it seems that he would have enough time to deflate the balls by one psi rather than two psi, since it would cut the time in half that he needed to deflate the balls, thus disputing the claim that the weather and "atmospheric properties" affected the balls naturally. Also, interesting video.
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Post by Morkim on Jan 27, 2015 1:35:06 GMT -5
He carried 2 bags of balls into the bathroom? Well if he didn't take them in to tamper with them, then I am Ronald Reagan. If you believe that report from Pro Football Talk, then it is clear that this guy tampered with the footballs if he took them into the bathroom (why else would a locker room attendant take footballs into the bathroom?). Technically, the article is also misleading in one small, grammar-centered way that my OCD has to point out. The article says it was deflated by two pounds. He forgot to add the "per square inch" to the end so as not to confuse ignorant people into thinking the balls weighed 2 pounds less than they were supposed to lol. Since you pointed this report out, you obviously believe in it so as to question if he actually had time. Since we both now agree that this attendant took the balls into a separate room away from both the field and the officials' locker room (in this case, the bathroom), and if you believe the msn report that only 10 of the balls were under inflated to 1 psi per square inch, then it seems that he would have enough time to deflate the balls by one psi rather than two psi, since it would cut the time in half that he needed to deflate the balls, thus disputing the claim that the weather and "atmospheric properties" affected the balls naturally. Also, interesting video. You think going to the bathroom to use the bathroom is not feasible?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 1:48:02 GMT -5
He carried 2 bags of balls into the bathroom? Well if he didn't take them in to tamper with them, then I am Ronald Reagan. If you believe that report from Pro Football Talk, then it is clear that this guy tampered with the footballs if he took them into the bathroom (why else would a locker room attendant take footballs into the bathroom?). Technically, the article is also misleading in one small, grammar-centered way that my OCD has to point out. The article says it was deflated by two pounds. He forgot to add the "per square inch" to the end so as not to confuse ignorant people into thinking the balls weighed 2 pounds less than they were supposed to lol. Since you pointed this report out, you obviously believe in it so as to question if he actually had time. Since we both now agree that this attendant took the balls into a separate room away from both the field and the officials' locker room (in this case, the bathroom), and if you believe the msn report that only 10 of the balls were under inflated to 1 psi per square inch, then it seems that he would have enough time to deflate the balls by one psi rather than two psi, since it would cut the time in half that he needed to deflate the balls, thus disputing the claim that the weather and "atmospheric properties" affected the balls naturally. Also, interesting video. You think going to the bathroom to use the bathroom is not feasible? Sure that is feasible. But do you think the fact that eleven balls came out with less air that the others is a freak of nature?
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Post by Morkim on Jan 27, 2015 1:52:40 GMT -5
You think going to the bathroom to use the bathroom is not feasible? Sure that is feasible. But do you think the fact that eleven balls came out with less air that the others is a freak of nature? I don't know when those balls lost air. But I'm pretty OK assuming the ball boy stopped to use the bathroom on the way to the field. Since he went to the bathroom.
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Post by cityofchamps on Jan 27, 2015 1:59:02 GMT -5
Sure that is feasible. But do you think the fact that eleven balls came out with less air that the others is a freak of nature? I don't know when those balls lost air. But I'm pretty OK assuming the ball boy stopped to use the bathroom on the way to the field. Since he went to the bathroom. It is times like these that I don't know whether you are trolling, or if you actually believe what you say...
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Post by Morkim on Jan 27, 2015 2:02:49 GMT -5
I don't know when those balls lost air. But I'm pretty OK assuming the ball boy stopped to use the bathroom on the way to the field. Since he went to the bathroom. It is times like these that I don't know whether you are trolling, or if you actually believe what you say... So, in your opinion, (because opinions are all we have. Not facts) it's near impossible that the ball boy just literally went to the restroom while he had the balls? Are you just trolling or do you believe what you say? How could they have been cheating like this since 2010 without getting caught if the difference is so noticeable the colts sideline could tell by touch in the rain?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 2:02:53 GMT -5
Sure that is feasible. But do you think the fact that eleven balls came out with less air that the others is a freak of nature? I don't know when those balls lost air. But I'm pretty OK assuming the ball boy stopped to use the bathroom on the way to the field. Since he went to the bathroom. And whats the only room in the stadium without a camera? The bathroom because its illegal. Answer me this. Were there eleven of the patriots balls under inflated or not? If the answer is yes and they were under inflated early in the game. How do you think that happened? An accident? Simple question. And answering with I don't know won't work. Bill and Tom have already tried that.
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Post by Morkim on Jan 27, 2015 2:06:01 GMT -5
I don't know when those balls lost air. But I'm pretty OK assuming the ball boy stopped to use the bathroom on the way to the field. Since he went to the bathroom. And whats the only room in the stadium without a camera? The bathroom because its illegal. Answer me this. Were there eleven of the patriots balls under inflated or not? If the answer is yes and they were under inflated early in the game. How do you think that happened? An accident? Simple question. And answering with I don't know won't work. Bill and Tom have already tried that. Maybe they "already tried that" because they don't know? Accident seems plausible to me.
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