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Post by bears75 on Nov 23, 2014 18:43:58 GMT -5
QB: Terry Bradshaw, Ben Ronthlisberger RB: Franco Harris, Jerome Bettis, Rocky Bleier, Willie Parker WR: Hines Ward, John Stallworth, Lynn Swann, Louis Lipps, Buddy Dial TE: Heath Miller, Bennie Cunningham, Eric Green LT: Jon Kolb, John Jackson RT: Tunch Ilkin, Larry Brown C: Mike Webster, Dermonti Dawson LG: Alan Faneca, Sam Davis RG: Gerry Mullins, Craig Wolfley LDT: Joe Greene, Joel Steed RDT: Casey Hampton, Gary Dunn LDE: L.C. Greenwood, Aaron Smith RDE: Dwight White, Brett Keisel LOLB: Jack Ham, James Harrison ROLB: Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell MLB: Jack Lambert, James Farrior, Levon Kirkland LCB: Rod Woodson, Dwayne Woodruff RCB: Mel Blount, Ike Taylor FS: Carnell Lake, Mike Wagner SS: Donnie Shell, Troy Polamalu P: Bobby Walden, Josh Miller K: Gary Anderson, Lou Michaels KR: Antwaan Ranle El, Larry Anderson
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Post by cityofchamps on Nov 23, 2014 19:25:19 GMT -5
No. No No No No No. Now I know you are doing this to piss me off.
- How can you leave off DT Ernie Stoutner? There is a reason he was our only officially retired jersey until a few weeks ago. - Why isn't Troy #1 at SS? No way in HELL did Donnie Shell make more of an impact for the Steelers than Troy did. Troy is far and away the best Safety we have ever had and could be in the discussion for #1 All Time at his position. First ballot Hall of Famer. - Ben should EASILY be ahead of Bradshaw, no question. He already has all of the Steelers' Passing Records and if this year is any indication, we are just seeing him at his best. - You forgot Frank Varrichione at OT. - I think I would put Joey Porter or Jason Gildon ahead of Lloyd. - John Henry Johnson and Johnny "Blood" McNally should be ahead of Parker. - Kimo Von Olehoffen over Keisel for now. - Ernie Holmes over Gary Dunn. - Marvel Smith over John Jackson. - Bobby Walden over Ed Brown (Walden was chosen on the Steelers All Time team).
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Post by Juggs on Nov 23, 2014 20:59:06 GMT -5
No. No No No No No. Now I know you are doing this to piss me off. - How can you leave off DT Ernie Stoutner? There is a reason he was our only officially retired jersey until a few weeks ago. - Why isn't Troy #1 at SS? No way in HELL did Donnie Shell make more of an impact for the Steelers than Troy did. Troy is far and away the best Safety we have ever had and could be in the discussion for #1 All Time at his position. First ballot Hall of Famer. - Ben should EASILY be ahead of Bradshaw, no question. He already has all of the Steelers' Passing Records and if this year is any indication, we are just seeing him at his best. - You forgot Frank Varrichione at OT. - I think I would put Joey Porter or Jason Gildon ahead of Lloyd. - John Henry Johnson and Johnny "Blood" McNally should be ahead of Parker. - Kimo Von Olehoffen over Keisel for now. - Ernie Holmes over Gary Dunn. - Marvel Smith over John Jackson. - Bobby Walden over Ed Brown (Walden was chosen on the Steelers All Time team). Wow the beatdown has been applied
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Post by bears75 on Nov 23, 2014 21:51:18 GMT -5
No. No No No No No. Now I know you are doing this to piss me off. - How can you leave off DT Ernie Stoutner? There is a reason he was our only officially retired jersey until a few weeks ago. - Why isn't Troy #1 at SS? No way in HELL did Donnie Shell make more of an impact for the Steelers than Troy did. Troy is far and away the best Safety we have ever had and could be in the discussion for #1 All Time at his position. First ballot Hall of Famer. - Ben should EASILY be ahead of Bradshaw, no question. He already has all of the Steelers' Passing Records and if this year is any indication, we are just seeing him at his best. - You forgot Frank Varrichione at OT. - I think I would put Joey Porter or Jason Gildon ahead of Lloyd. - John Henry Johnson and Johnny "Blood" McNally should be ahead of Parker. - Kimo Von Olehoffen over Keisel for now. - Ernie Holmes over Gary Dunn. - Marvel Smith over John Jackson. - Bobby Walden over Ed Brown (Walden was chosen on the Steelers All Time team). Your passion is refreshing. I don't know of any Ernie Stoutner. A case could be made for Eddie StAutner. He began playing in 1950 and at 6'1 230 lbs I'm not sure how he'd fair in the trenches against against much bigger O-lines.
Bradshaw did lead his team to 4 super bowl victories so that must count for something. Big Ben could catch him but he isn't quite there yet.
Frank Varrichione would have made the team if not for spending the last 5 seasons with the Rams.
I beg to differ on Lloyd. He was a 5 time pro bowler and 3 time all pro 1st teamer. Man how soon the fans forget.
I could understand a case for John Henry Johnson as a 5th running back, but not ahead of Parker and I have no idea who McNally is???
How many pro bowls did Olehoffen go to with the Steelers? I don't remember any.
Holmes was on par skill wise with Dunn but played 65 less games.
Marvel Smith was slighty more productive but played 41 fewer games. He was considered.
I agree with you on Walden. I've moved Josh Miller to the backup punter
Troy Polamalu has slipped a bit the past two seasons. Barring injury he'll likely be roughly even with Donnie Shell by season's end.
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Post by cityofchamps on Nov 24, 2014 9:14:23 GMT -5
No. No No No No No. Now I know you are doing this to piss me off. - How can you leave off DT Ernie Stoutner? There is a reason he was our only officially retired jersey until a few weeks ago. - Why isn't Troy #1 at SS? No way in HELL did Donnie Shell make more of an impact for the Steelers than Troy did. Troy is far and away the best Safety we have ever had and could be in the discussion for #1 All Time at his position. First ballot Hall of Famer. - Ben should EASILY be ahead of Bradshaw, no question. He already has all of the Steelers' Passing Records and if this year is any indication, we are just seeing him at his best. - You forgot Frank Varrichione at OT. - I think I would put Joey Porter or Jason Gildon ahead of Lloyd. - John Henry Johnson and Johnny "Blood" McNally should be ahead of Parker. - Kimo Von Olehoffen over Keisel for now. - Ernie Holmes over Gary Dunn. - Marvel Smith over John Jackson. - Bobby Walden over Ed Brown (Walden was chosen on the Steelers All Time team). Your passion is refreshing. I don't know of any Ernie Stoutner. A case could be made for Eddie StAutner. He began playing in 1950 and at 6'1 230 lbs I'm not sure how he'd fair in the trenches against against much bigger O-lines.
Bradshaw did lead his team to 4 super bowl victories so that must count for something. Big Ben could catch him but he isn't quite there yet.
Frank Varrichione would have made the team if not for spending the last 5 seasons with the Rams.
I beg to differ on Lloyd. He was a 5 time pro bowler and 3 time all pro 1st teamer. Man how soon the fans forget.
I could understand a case for John Henry Johnson as a 5th running back, but not ahead of Parker and I have no idea who McNally is???
How many pro bowls did Olehoffen go to with the Steelers? I don't remember any.
Holmes was on par skill wise with Dunn but played 65 less games.
Marvel Smith was slighty more productive but played 41 fewer games. He was considered.
I agree with you on Walden. I've moved Josh Miller to the backup punter
Troy Polamalu has slipped a bit the past two seasons. Barring injury he'll likely be roughly even with Donnie Shell by season's end.
Your case against Polamalu is because he has slipped the past two seasons? A lot of players do that. Emmitt Smith did at the end of his career. So did Bradshaw, Ward, Harrison, Aaron Smith, James Farrior, etc. That doesn't take away from Polamalu being the best Strong Safety of his generation and far better than Shell ever was. This is the All Time Roster isn't it? And yes, it IS Ernie Stautner (typo there with the o instead of the a). Not Eddie Stautner. www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=202
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Nov 24, 2014 10:27:07 GMT -5
Mr. Faircatch as a the team's best returner? hah
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Nov 24, 2014 10:30:24 GMT -5
No. No No No No No. Now I know you are doing this to piss me off. - How can you leave off DT Ernie Stoutner? There is a reason he was our only officially retired jersey until a few weeks ago. - Why isn't Troy #1 at SS? No way in HELL did Donnie Shell make more of an impact for the Steelers than Troy did. Troy is far and away the best Safety we have ever had and could be in the discussion for #1 All Time at his position. First ballot Hall of Famer. - Ben should EASILY be ahead of Bradshaw, no question. He already has all of the Steelers' Passing Records and if this year is any indication, we are just seeing him at his best. - You forgot Frank Varrichione at OT. - I think I would put Joey Porter or Jason Gildon ahead of Lloyd. - John Henry Johnson and Johnny "Blood" McNally should be ahead of Parker. - Kimo Von Olehoffen over Keisel for now. - Ernie Holmes over Gary Dunn. - Marvel Smith over John Jackson. - Bobby Walden over Ed Brown (Walden was chosen on the Steelers All Time team). Might want to consider Kevin Greene as well, either way, someone very good is going to be left off at LB and the DL.
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Nov 24, 2014 10:40:12 GMT -5
Another thing to consider with Roethlisberger over Bradshaw, Ben could easily play in Bradshaw's era imo. In fact he would have a huge advantage seeing as most of the players in the 70s were not nearly as big or strong as they are today which would help in his ability to break tackles. Now the question is how would Bradshaw fair in today's game?
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Post by steelersfan4life56 on Nov 24, 2014 10:47:00 GMT -5
You also forgot safety/corner Jack Butler.
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Post by gobolts25 on Nov 24, 2014 10:54:19 GMT -5
Dangit I had a whole thing on why Terry should be ranked above Big Ben, hit the wrong key and it's down the drain and I don't want to write another novel this morning. Anyway, suffice it to say I agree with bears.
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